human and dwarf form for pvp
Would this be PB or WS?
@Jay Leon Hart
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Get a team?
I really should do something about this signature.
its for a pb , a team wouldnt help that much on a 1 on 1 even with buffs compared to a good build
At Level 40 you'll really start tailing off on damage output. A team will help more than anything else. As a PB one-on-one you should be extremely hard to kill, but you won't be able to kill enemies very easily.
Your most powerful attack (Incandescent Strike) does about 300 Damage when fully slotted at level 50 (400 with Build Up) and Radiant Strike does about 160 Damage (220 with Build Up). A full attack chain of Build Up --> RS --> IS --> GB --> GE will do about 870 damage at level 50... and at level 50 every AT except a MM has over 1000HP. You'll find it very difficult to take down any toon with a self heal that refuses to stand still (Photon Seekers can still ruin a stationary toon's day if used properly- unaffected by Build Up but nearly 700 Damage).
For a Build, take Build Up plus IS, RS, GS, GE as your main Human form attacks... plus Seekers, Flare and the Nuke if at all possible. Light form at 38 is very important since it's your "God Mode" and also lets you recover endurance immediately after a Nuke (PB nuke is only -100% Recovery compared to -1000% for Blasters). Take and slot up Essence Boost (Dull Pain) and Reform Essence (Reconstruction). If you're doing PvP you'll want Acrobatics, plus both SJ and Superspeed... so take the Fitness, Leaping and Speed pools.
Get White Dwarf at 20 or ASAP, slot the heal and setup a good Teleport bind since this is your main escape method. Your secondary escape method is Quantum Flight, which is GOLDEN: instant activation and you can stay phased for nearly 2 minutes when combined with Conserve Energy. Note that White Dwarf smite can stun and has a -fly component. Human form's RS and IS both also have -fly. Unfortunately outside Pulsar (very long activation, generally bad for PvP) and Dwarf Smite (not 100% chance) nothing you can do will reliably detoggle opponents. IS is only a Mag 3 hold and won't break through Acrobatics.
You're really going to do better in teams though. Cosmic Balance will HEAVILY improve your damage output in Human Form, and a speedboosted, Sonic-Bubbled Dwarf with accuracy, range and duration slotted in their taunt makes a very good PvP tanker. Capped resists, fear/confuse protection, uninterruptable self heal...
I toyed with PvP on my own Human/Dwarf for a while in I6/I7, his best moment was probably soloing a Granite Brute in RV. The Brute didn't move at all, and it still took well over the entire duration of Light Form (180 secs) to actually kill him. With low damage output and no "unresistable damage" that still felt like quite an achievement though... and the Brute wasn't half surprised that I was actually able to take him down...
Not sure if it'll help any, but this is the IO build I'm eventually going to get around to respeccing my Human/Dwarf into. He's more of a PvE toon these days though... for PvP the power pick order could use a bit of tweaking, but the chosen powers themselves and the slotting should be fine (maybe a few ranges in taunt).
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Level 50 Natural Peacebringer
Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast
Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Glinting Eye -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(5), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(13), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(48), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(50)
Level 1: Incandescence -- Aegis-Psi/Status:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(46)
Level 2: Gleaming Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(5), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(11), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(17), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 4: Essence Boost -- Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(9), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:40(9), H'zdH-Heal/Rchg:40(15)
Level 6: Radiant Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(7), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(11), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(15), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A), Jump-I:50(50)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+:30(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(50)
Level 12: Build Up -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(13), HO:Membr(48)
Level 14: Super Jump -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(17)
Level 18: Incandescent Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(21), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(21), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42)
Level 20: White Dwarf -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(25), ResDam-I:50(25)
Level 22: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(23), EndMod-I:50(23)
Level 24: Reform Essence -- Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(40), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:40(40), H'zdH-Heal/Rchg:40(40)
Level 26: Solar Flare -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(43), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(45), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 30: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 32: Dawn Strike -- C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg:50(33), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:50(33), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg:50(34)
Level 35: Photon Seekers -- HO:Nucle(A), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), BldM'dt-Dmg:50(36), RechRdx-I:50(36), RechRdx-I:50(37), RechRdx-I:50(37)
Level 38: Light Form -- Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg:50(39), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(39), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(39)
Level 41: Conserve Energy -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(42), RechRdx-I:50(42)
Level 44: Quantum Flight -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(45)
Level 47: Restore Essence -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 49: Super Speed -- Run-I:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Cosmic Balance
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Level 20: White Dwarf Strike -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 20: White Dwarf Smite -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 20: White Dwarf Flare -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(31), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(31), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31)
Level 20: White Dwarf Sublimation -- Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(27), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:40(27), H'zdH-Heal/Rchg:40(34)
Level 20: White Dwarf Antagonize -- Acc-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(34), Taunt-I:50(37)
Level 20: White Dwarf Step -- Range-I:50(A)
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Darn it I forget how good Khelds do with IOs.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
yeah ive read some threads on io builds on the pb make it very good in pvp and pve just at my current lvl my so sets just dont do enough dmg just yet so might have to start thinking of how much the io sets are going cost me
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Not sure if it'll help any, but this is the IO build I'm eventually going to get around to respeccing my Human/Dwarf into. He's more of a PvE toon these days though... for PvP the power pick order could use a bit of tweaking, but the chosen powers themselves and the slotting should be fine (maybe a few ranges in taunt).
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I finally got around to respeccing my Human/Dwarf PB into the above build. Well, the above build minus one slot in Energy Flight and plus a +Perception Unique IO in "Build Up". All I'm waiting on now is one last LOTG +Recharge IO to be put into Combat Jumping (already have one in Combat Flight)
The difference between SOs and IOs is astronomical. His actual damage-output-per-attack remains virtually unchanged, but he's able to attack nearly twice as often now, which means my Human-Form attack chain has absolutely no gaps in it at all. (8.87 seconds recharge time on IS compared to 15 seconds with my SO build).
The considerably-reduced recharge time on Seekers and Dawn Strike is also very nice, but what gets me most is the endurance consumption difference. Back when I was levelling him (in, oh, i6 I think) he routinely got down to zero endurance simply by continuously using his Human Form attacks - whilst running no toggles except Combat Jumping. With IOs, I can't get him below 50% endurance when I'm trying unless I use his nuke.
When I nuke in Light Form (which now has considerably less than 4 minutes downtime) he still recovers endurance. I absolutely adore that about Peacebringers. -100% Recovery rather than a Blaster's -1000%. And finally, the accuracy buff for IOs is also very noticable. Finding that your Human-Form PB can finally reliably hit things when you're used to whiffing like crazy versus anything over +3s is a wonderful change.
Total cost has been about 350 million so far, and I've about another 50 million still to spend (on the last LOTG and a few miscellaneous upgrades like Endmod/Taunt set IOs). I've been putting off IO'ing this character for ages, but I'm glad I've finally done it. He really feels both fun and "playable" to me again now...
PvP? I can see it working. Light Form's recharge time for general battles combined with Dwarf Form as an escape route seems very appealing... and he's got Phase Shift plus all travel powers... now if I can just convince a villain to stand still for about 5 minutes until I can do enough DoT to kill them...
Actually, that last bit's not really so applicable anymore. RS and IS do about 220 and 400 damage respectively with "Build Up". That's a good bit of HP- certainly not Scrapper/Blaster level, but nothing to sneeze at when the recharge time for those two attacks is now so low. Gleaming Blast is also quite a nice finisher at about 155 damage (ranged). Photon Seekers will do about 670 Damage if all three hit (unlikely, but certainly possible if you catch someone in, say, the "Total Focus" animation). I'd put Peacebringer damage about level with non-EM Tankers (the numbers are about equal with /Fire for single-target attacks).
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has anyone got a good build for pvp action for humand and dwarf form , mines lvl 40 but im not doing enough dmg at the moment any advice on a build would be great