Fire/storm/ice troller, need some help :)


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Decided to roll my 234587624th controller and finally get one over level 3. So far playing my fire/storm has been really enjoyable (the whopping 3 levels :P) and I made a build for her. I'd really like some of you controller experts/veterans to have a look at my build and tell if something is wrong with it

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Fire Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Char==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Rechg(3)Rechg(5)Hold(5)Hold(7)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Fire Cages==> Acc(2)Acc(9)EndRdx(15)EndRdx(36)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4)EndRdx(7)EndRdx(9)
06) --> Swift==> Run(6)
08) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(8)
10) --> Steamy Mist==> EndRdx(10)EndRdx(11)EndRdx(11)DmgRes(13)DmgRes(13)DmgRes(15)
12) --> Hurdle==> Jump(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Freezing Rain==> Rechg(16)Rechg(17)Rechg(17)EndRdx(19)EndRdx(19)Slow(25)
18) --> Cinders==> Rechg(18)Rechg(23)Acc(23)Acc(25)Hold(27)Hold(27)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Hurricane==> EndRdx(22)EndRdx(29)TH_DeBuf(37)EndRdx(43)TH_DeBuf(46)TH_DeBuf(50)
24) --> O2 Boost==> Heal(24)Heal(37)Heal(40)EndRdx(42)EndRdx(43)
26) --> Bonfire==> Rechg(26)Rechg(29)Rechg(31)
28) --> Flashfire==> Acc(28)Acc(31)Rechg(31)Rechg(33)EndRdx(33)DisDur(33)
30) --> Hasten==> Rechg(30)Rechg(34)Rechg(37)
32) --> Fire Imps==> Dmg(32)Dmg(34)Dmg(34)Acc(36)Acc(36)
35) --> Super Speed==> Run(35)
38) --> Lightning Storm==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Acc(40)Acc(40)
41) --> Ice Blast==> Dmg(41)Dmg(42)Dmg(42)Acc(43)Acc(45)EndRdx(45)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> DefBuf(44)DefBuf(45)DefBuf(46)EndRdx(46)EndRdx(48)
47) --> Ice Storm==> Rechg(47)Rechg(48)Rechg(48)
49) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(49)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Power Quick==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
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Oh and one thing, ignore the slotting levels.


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ok this is maybe only my opinion but i find the epic shield worthless. i know it makes a nice costume item but it sucks end and really you dont benefit from it. take hibernate asap i mean that power rocks i use it all the time and that is a lifesaver. now for slotting freezing rain is best slotted for defense debuff loose the slow in it coze snowstorm slows em up quite good so get a slow in snowstorm. then for lightning storm i have no acc in it i dont find them neccessary coze it seems to hit all the time and if u put in a third rech u can make it perma even overlapping abit at 50 i think i got it covered dont know much about fire tho so hope this helps


 

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Your build looks really good actually.

Just a few things.

Bonfire really isnt very good for the most part unless you manage to trap something in a corner. Skip it and get acrobatics instead.

Get flashfire asap....probably the best and most important power in fire control...and slot it 2 acc, 2 rech, 2 dis dur.

Lightning Storm doesnt "really" need accuracies. Test with none or one to see how it is (been ages since I've had...can't really remember).

Ice storm could use some dmg enhancements.

Hibernate could use 1 or 2 heals (doesnt really need them though...but nice to have).

Ice blast isnt very good after the nerf anymore. Take something like Ring of Fire instead since it does about the same damage, has a faster recharge, set up containment and costs less endurance.

Some other things.

even if /storms very endheavy you may have overslotted the end reductions.

Would personally rather have Tornado than o2 boost.

Aid self is very nice to have....would mean you have to skip 2 other good powers though

EDIT: In response to Serefia:
Epic shields are awesome! The defense based shields such as the ice and earth shields are tricky to fully test and appreciate because of the nature of defense....but 50% resistance to s/l damage?!? Not bad imo. And if you do have the shield it's not exactly needed to use hibernate as much as Serefia likes to use it

2nd edit:

My proposed PvE build would probably be something like this:

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Archetype: Controller
Primary: Fire Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Char==> Acc(1) Acc(7) Rechg(7) Rechg(9) Hold(9) Hold(43)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Fire Cages==> Acc(2) Acc(3) EndRdx(3)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4) EndRdx(5) EndRdx(5)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(6)
08) --> Swift==> Run(8)
10) --> Steamy Mist==> EndRdx(10) EndRdx(11) DmgRes(11) DmgRes(19) DmgRes(43)
12) --> Flashfire==> Acc(12) Acc(13) Rechg(13) Rechg(15) DisDur(15) DisDur(19)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Freezing Rain==> Rechg(16) Rechg(17) Rechg(17) EndRdx(46) EndRdx(46)
18) --> Hurdle==> Jump(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Hurricane==> EndRdx(22) EndRdx(23) TH_DeBuf(23) TH_DeBuf(25) TH_DeBuf(43)
24) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(25)
26) --> Cinders==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Rechg(27) Rechg(34) Hold(37) Hold(40)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(29) Rechg(29)
30) --> Ring of Fire==> Acc(30) Acc(31) Dmg(31) Dmg(31) Dmg(34)
32) --> Fire Imps==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34)
35) --> Tornado==> Dmg(35) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(37) EndRdx(37)
38) --> Lightning Storm==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) EndRdx(40)
41) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42) Heal(42) Heal(50)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(46)
47) --> Ice Storm==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Dmg(50)
49) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(49)
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Get tornado.

Its good dmg and with fire cages you dont scatter mobs every where. Also its one of the best powers in the game against an AV.


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Thanks for all the comments people. As I said, I'm not an expert with controllers and I guess my power picks mirror it :P

I have only heard bad things about tornado so far, scattering mobs all over place and all. That's why I didnt pick it but I guess with fire cages it is a bit better.


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Get Hot Feet, it makes soloing pre-imps so much easier.


 

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I couldnt tailor in acrobatics, flashfire, hot feet and all the other nice stuff with the proper levels. I tried to put in hot feet before imps but then I would've had to get stamina at 30 which wouldnt have worked very well...

I'd appreciate it if someone could tailor a build with hotfeet and all (looking at you Kitty for proposing hot feet!)


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This is my planned build to 50 (I'm 37 at the moment):

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Name: Desert Storm
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Fire Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Char==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Hold(3) Hold(5) Rechg(5) Rechg(7)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Fire Cages==> Acc(2) Acc(7) EndRdx(9) EndRdx(27)
04) --> O2 Boost==> Heal(4) Heal(27) Heal(29) EndRdx(29)
06) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(6)
08) --> Hot Feet==> Dmg(8) Dmg(9) Dmg(11) EndRdx(11) EndRdx(34) EndRdx(36)
10) --> Swift==> Run(10)
12) --> Flashfire==> Acc(12) Acc(13) DisDur(13) DisDur(15) Rechg(15) Rechg(17)
14) --> Fly==> Fly(14) Fly(17) Fly(19)
16) --> Freezing Rain==> Rechg(16) Rechg(19) Rechg(21)
18) --> Cinders==> Acc(18) Acc(21) Rechg(23) Rechg(23) Hold(37) Hold(37)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(25) EndMod(25)
24) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(24)
26) --> Bonfire==> Dmg(26) Dmg(37) Dmg(39) Rechg(39)
28) --> Thunder Clap==> Acc(28) Acc(31) Rechg(31) Rechg(31)
30) --> Steamy Mist==> EndRdx(30)
32) --> Fire Imps==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34) Rechg(34)
35) --> Tornado==> Rechg(35) Rechg(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(42) Dmg(42)
38) --> Lightning Storm==> Dmg(38) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) Rechg(40) Rechg(40) Rechg(43)
41) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(41) Acc(42) Dmg(43) Dmg(43) Dmg(45) EndRdx(46)
44) --> Fire Ball==> Acc(44) Acc(45) Dmg(45) Dmg(46) Dmg(46) Rechg(48)
47) --> Consume==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Rechg(48) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Fire Shield==> EndRdx(49) DmgRes(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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If you want Acrobatics I'd probably replace Bonfire.


 

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Is this for PvE or PvP?


 

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I'd appreciate it if someone could tailor a build with hotfeet and all (looking at you Kitty for proposing hot feet!)

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Hot Feet is a fantastic power but don't get it unless you got a friendly kin around...very hard to sustain because of the massive enduse...especially coupled with /storm so I wouldnt recommend it.

The build I posted above will work really well. You could swap the Ice epic for the fire epic for some more damage and Fire Shield coupled with Steamy Mist is awesome.
Look at it this way:

Fire Epic: Good damage and awesome shield....especially with Steamy Mist.

Ice Epic: More or less unkillable and fast regen/recovery midfight so don't have to worry about end.

up to you....


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[Hot Feet is a fantastic power but don't get it unless you got a friendly kin around...very hard to sustain because of the massive enduse...especially coupled with /storm so I wouldnt recommend it.

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I don't have any problems with it slotted 3xEndRed, but then I don't have Hurricane.


 

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3 End Reds and its a breeze


 

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[Hot Feet is a fantastic power but don't get it unless you got a friendly kin around...very hard to sustain because of the massive enduse...especially coupled with /storm so I wouldnt recommend it.

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I don't have any problems with it slotted 3xEndRed, but then I don't have Hurricane.

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3 End Reds and its a breeze

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Guess you dont use your other powers much...or at least don't play as fastpaced as I do.

I'm using transference quite often to sustain it on my fire/kins which have optimized HO builds.

I had too much downtime cos of it on my fire/rad even with AM running so I eventually respec'd it out.

2 of my fire/storm friends runs out of end faster than most blasters when using it...but then again...we play fast.

I still say it's a great power....but it comes with a big prize.


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