PvP build for my Illusion/Storm
offering an alternative build
Archetype: Controller
Primary Powers - Ranged : Illusion Control
Secondary Powers - Support : Storm Summoning
01 : Gale kbkdis(01)
01 : Spectral Wounds dam(01) acc(3) recred(3) dam(13) dam(37) endred(37)
02 : Blind hlddur(02) acc(5) hlddur(5) hlddur(25) dam(37) dam(39)
04 : Deceive cnfdur(04) acc(7) cnfdur(7) cnfdur(15) endred(46)
06 : Hasten recred(06) recred(9) recred(9)
08 : Superior Invisibility defbuf(08) defbuf(11) defbuf(11) endred(13)
10 : Hurdle jmp(10)
12 : Teleport Foe rng(12) acc(15)
14 : Super Speed runspd(14)
16 : Health hel(16) hel(17) hel(17)
18 : Phantom Army dam(18) dam(19) recred(19) endred(34) recred(36) dam(36)
20 : Stamina endrec(20) endrec(21) endrec(21)
22 : Hurricane thtdbf(22) thtdbf(23) thtdbf(23) endred(25)
24 : Aid Other hel(24)
26 : Spectral Terror ferdur(26) ferdur(27) ferdur(27) acc(46)
28 : Thunder Clap disdur(28) disdur(29) disdur(29) acc(48)
30 : Aid Self hel(30) inttim(31) recred(31) hel(31) hel(43) recred(45)
32 : Phantasm dam(32) dam(33) dam(33) acc(33) rng(34) recred(34)
35 : Teleport endred(35) rng(36)
38 : Lightning Storm dam(38) acc(39) rng(39) enddrn(40) dam(40) recred(40)
41 : Conserve Power endred(41) endred(42) endred(42) recred(42) recred(43) recred(43)
44 : Temp Invulnerability damres(44) damres(45) damres(45) endred(46)
47 : Power Boost endred(47) endred(48) endred(48) recred(50) recred(50) recred(50)
49 : Resuscitate inttim(49)
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01 : Brawl enhancement(01)
01 : Sprint enhancement(01)
02 : Rest enhancement(02)
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Psyline - level 50 illusion / storm / power (controller)
dakrowe - level 50 fire / fire / energy (tanker)
peaceline - level 50 peacebringer
stormin kormin - level 50 fire / kinetic / ice (controller)
energyline - level 50 invul / energy / stone (tanker)
dark serenity - level 50 ninja / poison mastermind
edgewalker - level 50 blade / regen stalker
Your builds pretty good Kitty....haven't had time to reply before now....but Psyline very alternative build really meant I had to post here.
Do yourself a favour and scrub the inside of your head as I did after reading it
I'd advice against teleport in PvP as it's too tricky and too enddraining to use efficiently.
Same goes for fly really as you will be a sitting duck when supression kicks in.
Health really isn't that useful for squishies because of the low hps and it wont save you in PvP.
Deceive is a nice power in PvE but it's uses are limited in PvP.
Lighting Storm is again a very nice power in PvE but since it's stationary, doesn't do fantastic dmg and simply costs too much end to use I'd say skip it.
My proposed build would look like this:
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Name: ill / storm
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Blind==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Rechg(3) Rechg(5) Hold(5) Hold(7)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Spectral Wounds==> Acc(2) Acc(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(9) Dmg(11) Rechg(11)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4) EndRdx(13) EndRdx(37) Rechg(40) Slow(43) Slow(43)
06) --> Hurdle==> Jump(6) Jump(13)
08) --> Superior Invisibility==> EndRdx(8) EndRdx(15) EndRdx(15)
10) --> Steamy Mist==> EndRdx(10) EndRdx(17) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(19) DmgRes(19)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(12) Jump(21)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16) Run(46)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Acc(18) Dmg(21) Dmg(23) Rechg(23) Rechg(25) Rechg(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(27) EndMod(27)
22) --> Freezing Rain==> Rechg(22) Rechg(29) Rechg(29) EndRdx(31) DefDeBuf(46)
24) --> Hurricane==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(31) TH_DeBuf(31) TH_DeBuf(33) TH_DeBuf(33)
26) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(26) EndRdx(33)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
30) --> Super Speed==> Run(30) EndRdx(34)
32) --> Aid Other==> EndRdx(32)
35) --> Tornado==> Dmg(35) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(37) EndRdx(37)
38) --> Aid Self==> Heal(38) Heal(39) Heal(39) IntRdx(39) IntRdx(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42) Heal(42) Heal(43)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(46)
47) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(49) Fear(50)
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I know I have both Sup Invis and Steamy Mist in this build and you could probably lose one of them if you wanted to but the resistances in SM is just too good to pass on imo.
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Archys build looks close to perfect imo.
Yeah keep inflating the head of that troller wannabe... as if it wasnt big enough already .
TP self allows you to move if immob but not held, and got me out of trouble when people tp foed me in to a mob, and i was gone before the mob could attack.
Lightning storm should allow you to drop a hold or two, hurricane up and pop a storm off overhead, which should make it more difficult for the attacker to approach.
Have to admit PVP I don't do
PVE I like
I didn't join this game to do PVP and with the way the PVP system works here I'd say that certain AT Power Combinations work well PVP, personal opinion is ill/storm isn't one of them.
The PVP system in this game is far from balanced and the ability to bring "skill" in to play is very limited due to the inherent weaknesses of so many of the ATs here. No matter how much nerfing you put in to place, if a trollers holds can't pin something long enough for them to take it down which I might add takes far longer than a Stalker can AS you and get a 2nd attack in (due to their resistence to things like mez - something controllers lack).
I put the build up as it's the 1st PVP build I've built for ill/storm, but tbh I don't intend respeccing Psy for PVP. He is far too good PVE to want to change him and the only reason i'd go to a PVP zone is to get the badges I need from there.
If you look at the majority of PVP games, the characters are all of equal ability and player skill sets them apart there-after, in COX this really isn't the case.
PVE, I've cleared mobs that regen scrappers and tanks would normally be required for.
If you want to help the storm set for PVP, make O2 boost be an AOE heal rather than a targetted, that way at least the storm set would get a self heal without having to dip in to the medicine pool.
Rant over :P
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Just filling the 12 slots to 50 so I can claim Job Done
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If you look at the majority of PVP games, the characters are all of equal ability and player skill sets them apart there-after, in COX this really isn't the case.
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If you look at MMO PVP. Thats why I was very prejudiced toward PVP in any MMORPG. I was a fighting game player for 10 years before i came to COH. Where you picked characters from a small list and played against the other human player. Most of those games are inbalanced too, but can still be fun to play (Street fighters for instance). COX still has best online PVP I have found so far, naturally there are persisting problems. It would be silly to claim a perfect game would exist somewhere.
interesting characters <-> character power balance
Just a fact. For everything to be in balance would require characters to be carbon-copies of each other.
(An RPG game with evolving stats will always create imbalance in pvp. Hammerfall's law.)
Bottom line: we can still enjoy the game even if it is imbalanced.
OK im gonna throw my hat into the ring here...Having a lvl 50 Ill/Storm myself and I PvP alot with it and it Kind of Pwns ..so here's my build.
It's full of HO's atm but they have only just gone in.
I haven't duel'd anyone whith the HO's in yet.
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Window Licker
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Spectral Wounds==> NucleExp(1) NucleExp(3) NucleExp(3) Rechg(9) Rechg(11) EndRdx(11)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Blind==> EndopExp(2) EndopExp(5) EndopExp(5) Rechg(7) Rechg(7) EndRdx(9)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4) EndRdx(13) EndRdx(13) Slow(15) Slow(15) Slow(17)
06) --> Hurdle==> Jump(6) Jump(17) Jump(19)
08) --> Superior Invisibility==> CytosExp(8) CytosExp(19) CytosExp(21)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(10) Jump(21) Jump(23)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(23) Rechg(25)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16) Heal(43) Heal(43)
18) --> Phantom Army==> NucleExp(18) NucleExp(25) NucleExp(27) Rechg(27) Rechg(29) EndRdx(29)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(31) EndMod(31)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22) EndRdx(31) EndRdx(46)
24) --> Hurricane==> EnzymExp(24) EnzymExp(33) EnzymExp(33)
26) --> Spectral Terror==> EndopExp(26) EndopExp(33) EndopExp(34) Rechg(45) EndRdx(46) EndRdx(46)
28) --> Freezing Rain==> EnzymExp(28) EnzymExp(34) EnzymExp(34) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(36)
30) --> Super Speed==> MicroExp(30) MicroExp(37)
32) --> Aid Other==> EndRdx(32)
35) --> Tornado==> EnzymExp(35) EnzymExp(37) EnzymExp(37) PeroxExp(39) PeroxExp(39) Rechg(39)
38) --> Aid Self==> IntRdx(38) IntRdx(40) Rechg(40) Rechg(40) GolgiExp(42) GolgiExp(43)
41) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> RibosExp(44) RibosExp(45) RibosExp(45)
47) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) EndRdx(48)
49) --> Deceive==> EndopExp(49) EndopExp(50) EndopExp(50) EndRdx(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
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This is what I would do with just SO's.
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Window Licker
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Spectral Wounds==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(9) Dmg(11) EndRdx(11)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Blind==> Acc(2) Acc(5) Hold(5) Hold(7) Rechg(7) Rechg(9)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4) EndRdx(13) EndRdx(13) Slow(15) Slow(15) Slow(17)
06) --> Hurdle==> Jump(6) Jump(17) Jump(19)
08) --> Superior Invisibility==> EndRdx(8) EndRdx(19) EndRdx(21)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(10) Jump(21) Jump(23)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(23) Rechg(25)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Dmg(18) Dmg(25) Dmg(27) Rechg(27) Rechg(29) EndRdx(29)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(31) EndMod(31)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22) EndRdx(31) EndRdx(46)
24) --> Hurricane==> TH_DeBuf(24) TH_DeBuf(33) TH_DeBuf(33) EndRdx(43) EndRdx(43)
26) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(26) Acc(33) Fear(34) EndRdx(50)
28) --> Freezing Rain==> DefDeBuf(28) DefDeBuf(34) EndRdx(34) EndRdx(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(36)
30) --> Super Speed==> Run(30) Run(37) EndRdx(46)
32) --> Aid Other==> EndRdx(32)
35) --> Tornado==> Rechg(35) Rechg(37) EndRdx(37) EndRdx(39) DefDeBuf(39) DefDeBuf(39)
38) --> Aid Self==> IntRdx(38) IntRdx(40) Rechg(40) Rechg(40) Heal(42) Heal(43)
41) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) EndRdx(45) EndRdx(46)
47) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) EndRdx(48)
49) --> Deceive==> Acc(49) Acc(50) ConfDur(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
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Not nececerily powers in that order..I only really PvP at lvl 50 so power selection for me isn't an issue.
I did't bother with Lightning storm or Phantasm...they are OK for PvE but the dmg and usefulness in PvP is minimal.
If you want to see it in action PM me or send a global tell to @Aphex Twin
PS:I would have loved to fit Steamy mist into the build but alas....no room(start the fight off in SI then switch to Steamy mist During battle....Use SI to drop toggle debuffs once its recharged )
Wow, days of nothing then replies galore!
Thank you all for the builds. Let me emphasise again though that i'm not making a pure PvP build. Raven is still only 42 and i'd love to hit 50 sometime, i just find she's really good at pvp and it helps break up the xp grind to pvp her sometimes.
Maybe when i hit 50 i'll spec to a pure pvp build but atm i still want powers like O2 boost and lightning storm for PvE. Plus, if you duel, LS is actually really good, not for the damage or KD but it does enough end drain to detoggle in a longish fight. (found this out when facing mobs that use it, i got detoggled by one when low on end).
I cant be doing with superspeed, not only do i not like it but it's completely against my concept, which i'll compromise but not abandon. Also, i have bad enough endurance issues without adding in hasten. I'd like it if i were to take flash, but i have no intention to take it.
Would love to have steamy mist but i find sup invis just too useful, and i wouldn't be able to fit it in without dropping something important.
TP was the main reason for the respec, every time i've beeninto sirens with Raven i've picked up the temp TP power and found it amazingly useful. Hopefully hover will satisfy my close combat maneuvering and my desire to maintain my concept.
@anyone who's used TP Foe in pvp, how do you slot it for best results?
I miss him in the weeping of the rain;
I want him at the shrinking of the tide;
The old snows melt from every mountain-side,
And last year's leaves are smoke in every lane;
But last year's bitter loving must remain
~Edna St. Vincent Millay
Not so much a PVP build, but one of the alt builds i was messing around with on the test server on Psy.
It seemed to scale pretty well, but a lot could be down to my play style with this AT.
Archetype: Controller
Primary Powers - Ranged : Illusion Control
Secondary Powers - Support : Storm Summoning
01 : Gale kbkdis(01)
01 : Spectral Wounds acc(01) dam(3) endred(5) recred(5) dam(7) dam(9)
02 : Deceive cnfdur(02) acc(3) cnfdur(7) endred(15) recred(46)
04 : O2 Boost hel(04) hel(37) recred(37) rng(50)
06 : Recall Friend rng(06)
08 : Superior Invisibility defbuf(08) endred(9) defbuf(13) defbuf(13)
10 : Blind hlddur(10) acc(11) dam(11) recred(17) hlddur(17) dam(40)
12 : Hover defbuf(12)
14 : Fly fltspd(14) endred(15) fltspd(43)
16 : Swift runspd(16)
18 : Phantom Army dam(18) dam(19) dam(19) recred(34) recred(34) rng(36)
20 : Hurricane thtdbf(20) thtdbf(21) endred(21)
22 : Health hel(22) hel(23) hel(23)
24 : Stamina endrec(24) endrec(25) endrec(25)
26 : Hasten recred(26) recred(27) recred(27)
28 : Spectral Terror ferdur(28) ferdur(29) acc(29)
30 : Steamy Mist defbuf(30) damres(31) endred(31) defbuf(31) damres(46) damres(46)
32 : Phantasm dam(32) dam(33) dam(33) endred(33) recred(34) acc(37)
35 : Group Invisibility defbuf(35) defbuf(36) defbuf(36) endred(50)
38 : Lightning Storm dam(38) acc(39) enddrn(39) endred(39) rng(40) dam(40)
41 : Conserve Power endred(41) endred(42) endred(42) recred(42) recred(43) recred(43)
44 : Temp Invulnerability damres(44) damres(45) damres(45) endred(45)
47 : Power Boost endred(47) recred(48) recred(48) recred(48)
49 : Teleport rng(49) endred(50)
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01 : Brawl enhancement(01)
01 : Sprint enhancement(01)
02 : Rest enhancement(02)
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Am sure you'll all find holes in the build, but hey ho, that's what community is about.
Not PVP - but should work quite well PVE, and if you want my help getting your ill storm to 50, give me a shout on my global of @PsyLine, am sure we can shorten the time from where you are to where you wanna be
Did lightening cloud get buffed anytime over the last 6-8 months? The end drain seems alot better to me than it used to be. (I left the game for 6months)
I've found that due to a general state of boredom with the game atm i've rather taken to pvp. I've also found that my age-old lvl 42 ill/storm (who will never hit 50 at this rate) doesnt suck at it, in fact she's rather handy. Despite the fact that i've recently respecced, i was thinking of doing so again into a more pvp friendly build so i thought i'd post my build to get some general pointers/abuse.
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Storm-Raven
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Spectral Wounds==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Dmg(5)Dmg(7)Dmg(11)EndRdx(13)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Blind==> Acc(2)Acc(3)Hold(7)Hold(9)Rechg(9)Rechg(15)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4)EndRdx(5)Slow(15)Slow(37)
06) --> Swift==> Fly(6)
08) --> Superior Invisibility==> EndRdx(8)EndRdx(11)EndRdx(17)
10) --> Teleport Foe==> Acc(10)Acc(13)
12) --> O2 Boost==> Heal(12)Heal(21)Heal(21)EndRdx(37)
14) --> Teleport==> EndRdx(14)EndRdx(25)Range(31)
16) --> Freezing Rain==> Rechg(16)Rechg(17)Rechg(31)DefDeBuf(36)DefDeBuf(37)EndRdx(42)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Rechg(18)Rechg(19)Rechg(19)Dmg(25)Dmg(34)Dmg(36)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22)EndMod(23)EndMod(23)
24) --> Hurricane==> EndRdx(24)EndRdx(27)TH_DeBuf(27)TH_DeBuf(29)TH_DeBuf(29)
26) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(26)EndRdx(43)
28) --> Deceive==> Acc(28)Acc(34)
30) --> Hover==> Fly(30)Fly(31)Fly(43)
32) --> Phantasm==> Acc(32)Acc(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(34)
35) --> Tornado==> Rechg(35)Rechg(36)EndRdx(40)Dmg(43)Dmg(46)Dmg(50)
38) --> Lightning Storm==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)EndRdx(39)Dmg(39)Dmg(40)Dmg(40)
41) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(41)Rechg(42)Rechg(42)
44) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(44)Acc(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(46)EndRdx(46)
47) --> Ice Storm==> Dmg(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)EndRdx(48)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Group Invisibility==> Rechg(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Atm i'm running with hover and fly with recall friend, which has served me well for PvE but i've found the TP temp power in Sirens VERY effective for getting the jump on people and running away. It's not so great for chasing or scouting though so i might miss fly, but it's also a tad end heavy as i keep sup invis and hurricane on all the time.
TP foe isn't a power i've ever taken before, and one i'm not too fond of, but i'll give it a try, is it ok slotted like that?
O2 boost...it's quite handy and i have saved people with it (i mostly team pvp rather than duel) but as we know it's not the greatest heal in the world. Opinions on dropping it altogether? If so what could replace it. I've no end for additional toggles. How useful is group invis in PvP?
Also, i find i rarely use deceive in pvp, does it work in one go coz i dont think i ever remember actually getting someone with it, though it's hard to tell what with the pace of pvp. Is it all that or would i be better off with getting say aid self in it's place with aid other taken at lvl 12?
Please also bear in mind that while i want to perform better in pvp, i also dont want to cripple myself in PvE, as despite the odds i still hold out hope of getting to 50 one day.
Thanks in advance,
Kitty
I miss him in the weeping of the rain;
I want him at the shrinking of the tide;
The old snows melt from every mountain-side,
And last year's leaves are smoke in every lane;
But last year's bitter loving must remain
~Edna St. Vincent Millay