Ice/Ice PvE Spec?


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I've got my tanker up to about lvl25 atm, and I'm doing fine without stamina though I suspect that will change when I have more than 1 attack and ice patch.

Going forward, this is roughly what I'm looking at, any feedback appreciated:

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Flash Freeze
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Ice Melee
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01) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(1)DefBuf(3)DefBuf(3)DefBuf(5)
01) --> Frozen Fists==> Acc(1)Rechg(15)EndRdx(15)Dmg(25)Dmg(27)Dmg(27)
02) --> Hoarfrost==> Rechg(2)Rechg(5)Rechg(7)Heal(7)Heal(9)Heal(9)
04) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(4)Taunt(11)Slow(50)
06) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(6)
08) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(8)
10) --> Taunt==> Rechg(10)Rechg(11)Taunt(13)Taunt(13)
12) --> Icicles==> EndRdx(12)EndRdx(17)Acc(17)Dmg(19)Dmg(19)Dmg(21)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)
18) --> Glacial Armor==> EndRdx(18)DefBuf(21)DefBuf(23)DefBuf(23)
20) --> Ice Patch==> Rechg(20)Rechg(25)EndRdx(33)
22) --> Health==> Heal(22)
24) --> Frost==> Acc(24)Rechg(29)EndRdx(29)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)
26) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(26)DefBuf(37)DefBuf(39)DefBuf(40)EndMod(40)EndMod(40)
28) --> Aid Other==> Heal(28)
30) --> Aid Self==> IntRdx(30)IntRdx(33)IntRdx(33)Heal(34)Heal(34)Heal(34)
32) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(32)EndMod(43)Heal(46)
35) --> Greater Ice Sword==> Acc(35)Rechg(36)EndRdx(36)Dmg(36)Dmg(37)Dmg(37)
38) --> Stamina==> Acc(38)EndMod(39)EndMod(39)
41) --> Block of Ice==> Acc(41)Rechg(42)EndRdx(42)Hold(42)Hold(43)Hold(43)
44) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(44)Rechg(45)EndRdx(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(46)Dmg(46)
47) --> Ice Storm==> Rechg(47)EndRdx(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(50)Slow(50)
49) --> Resuscitate==> Rechg(49)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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If you're not having any End problems now, you won't have them much at all I think. Except maybe during the 35-38 range, where you get Greater Ice Sword before Stamina, but you can always switch those around, if you prefer. Aid Self can also bit a bit of a drainer, but I don't think you'll be using it that much.

And even if you do need a bit of an End boost, you'll always have Energy Absorbtion. It's a fantastic power. You probably should slot it with at least 3 recharges though. You'll want to use it as much as possible. Slot 3 recharge first, then slot either def buffs or end mods, depending on your preference.


 

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Well, slotting Stamina for accuracy is certainly original.

Seriously, if you're going to take Stamina at all, take it earlier than 38 - Icicles is more a luxury than a necessity with CE already taken, I'd so postpone that, move everything else a pick earlier where possible and move Stam into the first gap opened up after 20.

I've found Energy Absorption to be a better End recharger than armour booster, so you might want to try swapping a DefBuf for an EndMod. It's a very good recharger too, so if you find that keeps you well enough topped up you can swap some of the attack EndReds for RecReds.

Along the same lines I'd swap an EndMod for a RecRed on Hibernate - you want it back up as soon as possible, and if you come out of it less than full of end you can always fire an EA (this will pull aggro back to you too - double bonus!).

Finally, Ice is a rather slow attack set - if you can squeeze Hasten in somewhere (drop Icicles?) that can help a lot.


 

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Well, slotting Stamina for accuracy is certainly original.

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LOL, don't you love the builders occaisonal habit of messing slottings up

Yeah, I'm not sure about stamina really, I've managed this long even running 6 toggles - but then I'm not attacking that much. That's why I've left it so late (I'm lvl25 atm) so I can see if I need it after I get Energy Absorbtion.

If I don't need it, I was thinking of swapping it out for Tough, I've seen some ice tankers do this I think, but I'm not 100% convinced of it's effectivness. I would give me a spare slot for Hasten though


 

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01) --> Frozen Fists==> Acc(1) Rechg(15) EndRdx(15) Dmg(25) Dmg(27) Dmg(27)

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bit meh for damage even though its ok dps but if i needed to up survivability first then i would. The acc, end and rechg make sense to me.

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22) --> Health==> Heal(22)

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u get aid self later so slotting it may seem a bit redundant

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26) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(26) DefBuf(37) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(40) EndMod(40) EndMod(40)

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once you have stamina switch the endmods to rechg

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28) --> Aid Other==> Heal(28)

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if ya gonna 1 slot it ya may as well get stimulant and use it on the defender before you act and then play to try to direct cone and aoe attacks with mezz secondary effects away from defender anyway.

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32) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(32) EndMod(43) Heal(46)

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try 4 slotting it and then decide whats in it i think.

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38) --> Stamina==> Acc(38) EndMod(39) EndMod(39)

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thats a long way to go to wait for stamina but not impossible. My question now is "why get swift and health so early and not start med pool sooner?". All your heals plus ice patch are ya main end drainers as well as attacks.

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41) --> Block of Ice==> Acc(41) Rechg(42) EndRdx(42) Hold(42) Hold(43) Hold(43)

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1 acc isnt alot imo but 6 slots allows you to work it out.

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47) --> Ice Storm==> Rechg(47) EndRdx(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Slow(50)

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id 3 rechg and 3 dam it, its a beaut! i'd use build up just before i go to use it.

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49) --> Resuscitate==> Rechg(49)

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are you that bad?


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Thanks Shannon, some interesting points there.

I've got the wierd situation with Stamina, as I wanted to be ready to take it if needed, but wanted to see if I could get by with just Energy Absorbtion first. So the spec reflects my current build up to 25, and then I popped stamina in pretty much anywhere as a placeholder.

Hehe, the res at 49, frankly I didn't know what else to bother with, didn't think about Build Up + Ice Storm