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Superstrength/electrical Armor

BostonLantern

By BostonLantern,
Posted on: 2006-07-24 16:19 in Brutes

 

Posted

Hiya. - Can anybody help me with a build for a LvL 30 Superstrength/electrical armor Brute ?
- Im about to get a respec, and i want to build up a good powerset. - Can anybody help me?

Manice

 

Posted

Here's someone's from my SG (spinester):

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Avi
Level: 50
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Super Strength
Secondary: Electric Armor
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01) --> Punch==> Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Rechg(46)
01) --> Charged Armor==> DmgRes(1) DmgRes(5) DmgRes(7)
02) --> Haymaker==> Acc(2) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(9) Rechg(46)
04) --> Conductive Shield==> DmgRes(4) DmgRes(11) DmgRes(11)
06) --> Hasten==> Rechg(6) Rechg(13) Rechg(13)
08) --> Knockout Blow==> Acc(8) Dmg(15) Dmg(15) Dmg(17) Rechg(40) Rechg(43)
10) --> Static Shield==> DmgRes(10) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(19)
12) --> Hurdle==> Jump(12)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16) Heal(45) Heal(45)
18) --> Rage==> Rechg(18) Rechg(19) Rechg(21) TH_Buf(21) TH_Buf(23) TH_Buf(23)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(25) EndMod(25)
22) --> Lightning Reflexes==> Run(22) Run(46)
24) --> Grounded==> DmgRes(24) DmgRes(27) DmgRes(27)
26) --> Stimulant==> Rechg(26)
28) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(28) Rechg(29) Rechg(29)
30) --> Aid Self==> IntRdx(30) IntRdx(31) Heal(31) Heal(31) Heal(33) Rechg(33)
32) --> Foot Stomp==> Acc(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(34) Dmg(34) Rechg(34) Rechg(37)
35) --> Power Sink==> Rechg(35) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) EndMod(36) EndMod(37) EndMod(37)
38) --> Power Surge==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) DmgRes(39) DmgRes(40) DmgRes(40)
41) --> Lightning Field==> Dmg(41) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) EndMod(42) EndMod(43) EndMod(43)
44) --> Electrifying Fences==> Acc(44) Acc(45)
47) --> Ball Lightning==> Acc(47) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Taunt==> Taunt(49) Rechg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
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Posted

Thanks (: I will try that. - btw. Powersurge? - Do you change into a Deathsurge-looking lightening?

 

Posted

I just made a similar build.

I hesitate between DM/elec and SS/elec.

I come to this:

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Brute SS/Elec
Level: 41
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Super Strength
Secondary: Electric Armor
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01) --> Jab==> Acc(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(11)
01) --> Charged Armor==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(7)DmgRes(7)EndRdx(31)
02) --> Punch==> Acc(2)Dmg(5)Dmg(9)Dmg(13)
04) --> Haymaker==> Acc(4)Dmg(5)Dmg(15)Dmg(17)
06) --> Lightning Field==> Acc(6)Dmg(25)Dmg(25)Dmg(34)
08) --> Knockout Blow==> Acc(8)Dmg(9)Dmg(15)Dmg(17)
10) --> Conductive Shield==> DmgRes(10)DmgRes(11)DmgRes(23)EndRdx(29)
12) --> Static Shield==> DmgRes(12)DmgRes(13)DmgRes(23)EndRdx(39)
14) --> Swift==> Run(14)
16) --> Grounded==> DmgRes(16)DmgRes(29)DmgRes(40)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)Heal(19)Heal(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Lightning Reflexes==> Run(22)
24) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(24)
26) --> Super Jump==> Jump(26)Jump(27)Jump(27)
28) --> Aid Other==> Heal(28)
30) --> Aid Self==> Heal(30)Heal(31)Heal(31)Rechg(34)Rechg(37)Rechg(40)
32) --> Foot Stomp==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Rechg(34)Rechg(40)
35) --> Power Sink==> EndMod(35)EndMod(36)EndMod(36)Rechg(36)Rechg(37)Rechg(37)
38) --> Power Surge==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Posted

Helgriz,

I'd suggest thinking about getting your travel power a little earlier. I don't know a huge amount about Elec armour but I imagine you could leave Lightning Field for a while (and slot it with EndRdx too) and take Lightning Reflexes a little later as well.
But it's up to you.

One thing I can't praise highly enough, however, is Rage. It's one of the defining powers in SS though I'd suggest 2 rech and 1 tohit buff would be plenty to slot it with.


Hope that helps.

 

Posted

You're right.

I modified the build as stated.

I added rage but replaced punch by kick (for tough later on).

At first, I wanted air superiority because it fitted the theme but it would have been too many attacks.

With this build, I'm looking for a good attack chain with finishers (jab+kick+haymaker for M/LT or knockoutblow for Bosses, footstomp for groups), nice knockdown/back because it fits my theme and nice defense as well. (hence tough and the def slotted power surge)

I'm not sure on fly but I can still switch for combat jumping and SJ without hurting the rest too much.

What do you think of this one?

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 41
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Super Strength
Secondary: Electric Armor
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01) --> Jab==> Acc(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(23)
01) --> Charged Armor==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(5)DmgRes(11)
02) --> Haymaker==> Acc(2)Dmg(5)Dmg(7)Dmg(11)EndRdx(39)
04) --> Conductive Shield==> DmgRes(4)DmgRes(17)DmgRes(23)
06) --> Kick==> Acc(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(9)Dmg(9)
08) --> Knockout Blow==> Dmg(8)Dmg(13)Dmg(13)EndRdx(15)
10) --> Hover==> EndRdx(10)Fly(40)
12) --> Static Shield==> DmgRes(12)DmgRes(25)DmgRes(37)
14) --> Fly==> Fly(14)Fly(15)Fly(17)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)Heal(19)Heal(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Lightning Reflexes==> Run(22)
24) --> Tough==> DmgRes(24)DmgRes(25)DmgRes(29)
26) --> Rage==> Rechg(26)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)
28) --> Lightning Field==> Acc(28)Dmg(29)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)EndRdx(37)
30) --> Grounded==> DmgRes(30)DmgRes(31)DmgRes(34)
32) --> Foot Stomp==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)EndRdx(34)EndRdx(34)
35) --> Power Sink==> EndMod(35)EndMod(36)EndMod(36)Rechg(36)Rechg(37)
38) --> Power Surge==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)DmgRes(40)DmgRes(40)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Posted

Same build but with SJ and maybe a better balancing

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 41
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Super Strength
Secondary: Electric Armor
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01) --> Jab==> Acc(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(15)
01) --> Charged Armor==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(5)DmgRes(11)
02) --> Haymaker==> Acc(2)Dmg(5)Dmg(7)Dmg(11)EndRdx(39)
04) --> Conductive Shield==> DmgRes(4)DmgRes(17)DmgRes(23)
06) --> Kick==> Acc(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(9)Dmg(9)EndRdx(31)
08) --> Knockout Blow==> Acc(8)Dmg(13)Dmg(13)Dmg(15)EndRdx(34)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(10)
12) --> Static Shield==> DmgRes(12)DmgRes(25)DmgRes(37)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)Jump(17)Jump(23)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)Heal(19)Heal(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Lightning Reflexes==> Run(22)
24) --> Rage==> Rechg(24)Rechg(25)Rechg(27)
26) --> Lightning Field==> Acc(26)EndRdx(27)EndRdx(29)EndRdx(29)Dmg(37)Dmg(40)
28) --> Tough==> DmgRes(28)DmgRes(31)DmgRes(31)
30) --> Grounded==> DmgRes(30)
32) --> Foot Stomp==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)EndRdx(34)EndRdx(34)
35) --> Power Sink==> EndMod(35)EndMod(36)Rechg(36)Rechg(36)Rechg(37)
38) --> Power Surge==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)DmgRes(40)DmgRes(40)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Maybe the Fly build can be ok with air superiority instead of hover for the -fly thing?

 

Posted

Looks better alright but my woeful lack of knowledge about /elec hampers my advice, somewhat...
Regarding pool powers and SS:

1) Boxing is probably better than Kick (and I wouldn't really slot either a huge amount - you'll get better return from slotting your SS attacks) unless you really want the knockback/down...

2) Air Superiority is a great attack and, IMO, you can never have too many attacks! I've read elsewhere that Fly and Grounded might not be the best combination but I don't know enough to say for certain.

3) I'd think about slotting your shields with EndRdx as well, keep yourself in the fight that little bit longer - maybe your attacks too, I've found that works wonders.

4) Personally, I'd take Punch up front and forgo Jab altogether - you'll probably have to rely on Brawl a bit to fill in the attack chain for a while but it's worth it. Of course, you could always take Jab and respec it out and Punch in later. Entirely up to you. Keeping it will work well for fury.

5) I'm open to correction on this one but I imagine Lightning Reflexes will see Rage fully ready with only 2 SOs...

6) I wouldn't go overboard on your damage aura (Lightning Field) an Acc and a couple of EndRdx will see it dishing out plenty of damage combined with fury.


Anyway, that's enough from me... In the long run, you'd do best to find what works for you - there's always the respec trial (if you're patient enough )


Have fun!

 

Posted

Hehe I was thinking about it one more time and ended to nearly what you said.

I ended dropping tough which seems a bit overkill (I don't know?) coupled with a well slotted power surge. I swapped for aid self.

I should handle the fight already very well and a heal is always a welcome addition.

I also dropped CJ for fly again, put back air superiority and swapped punch for jab (I don't like disorient that much anyway).

You should be right for the Endrx in the toggles. I will see how I perform during play. It's the best way to slot a character correctly. Impossible to guess on paper I guess.

Here it is:

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 41
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Super Strength
Secondary: Electric Armor
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01) --> Punch==> Acc(1)Dmg(5)Dmg(5)Dmg(29)
01) --> Charged Armor==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(3)DmgRes(11)
02) --> Haymaker==> Acc(2)Dmg(3)Dmg(9)Dmg(11)EndRdx(29)
04) --> Conductive Shield==> DmgRes(4)DmgRes(7)DmgRes(9)
06) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(13)Dmg(15)EndRdx(27)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8)
10) --> Knockout Blow==> Acc(10)Dmg(13)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)EndRdx(37)
12) --> Static Shield==> DmgRes(12)DmgRes(17)DmgRes(17)
14) --> Fly==> Fly(14)Fly(15)Fly(19)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)Heal(19)Heal(21)
18) --> Lightning Field==> EndRdx(18)EndRdx(21)EndRdx(23)Acc(37)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(23)EndMod(27)
22) --> Lightning Reflexes==> Run(22)
24) --> Rage==> Rechg(24)Rechg(25)Rechg(25)
26) --> Aid Other==> Heal(26)
28) --> Aid Self==> Heal(28)Heal(31)Heal(31)IntRdx(31)IntRdx(36)Rechg(37)
30) --> Grounded==> DmgRes(30)
32) --> Foot Stomp==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(34)Dmg(34)EndRdx(34)
35) --> Power Sink==> Rechg(35)Rechg(36)Rechg(36)EndMod(40)
38) --> Power Surge==> DmgRes(38)DmgRes(39)DmgRes(39)Rechg(39)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> IntRdx(2)
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Seems like a very funny character indeed

 

Posted

hate to say it guys but your going to be struggling with those builds and you can totaly forget PVP.

Defiant's GoEH/MILITIS METUS

 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
hate to say it guys but your going to be struggling with those builds and you can totaly forget PVP.

[/ QUOTE ]
The only changes I'd make to the last build would be replacing Punch with Jab for faster Fury and getting Grounded earlier, likely at the expense of Lightning Field.

Otherwise a solid build that can contribute more than enough.

 

Posted

[ QUOTE ]
hate to say it guys but your going to be struggling with those builds and you can totaly forget PVP.

[/ QUOTE ]
That's nice to know. Care to offer some suggestions, then?

 

Posted

2 slotting all shieilds with end reds
slotting all attacks with 2 acc 1 end red EXCEPT for haymaker and knockout blow which both need 2 end reds.
Lighting field is cack don't take it.
Fly and grounded DOES NOT WORK .. i don't care what you think its just dosn't not work...take SJ instead and maybe acro.
Take hasten because double stacked rage = 160% extra dmg .. you do the math.
You do not need to suppliment attacks with pool attacks .. jab,punch,haymaker all cycle nicely and theres enough knock down there.
Take Aidself sooner .. you'll need it.

Defiant's GoEH/MILITIS METUS

 

Posted

Sounds right for the most part.

I feel like punch instead of jab works great at the moment but I might respec it out later when I get knockout blow. Jab will by then replace the brawl I have on auto right now.

Here is a modified build with aid self way sooner and based on CJ.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Helgriz
Level: 41
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Super Strength
Secondary: Electric Armor
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01) --> Punch==> Acc(1)Dmg(7)EndRdx(9)Dmg(13)Dmg(27)
01) --> Charged Armor==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(3)DmgRes(5)EndRdx(37)
02) --> Haymaker==> Acc(2)Dmg(3)Dmg(5)EndRdx(11)Dmg(17)
04) --> Conductive Shield==> DmgRes(4)DmgRes(7)DmgRes(13)EndRdx(25)
06) --> Hasten==> Rechg(6)Rechg(15)Rechg(15)
08) --> Knockout Blow==> Acc(8)Dmg(9)Dmg(11)Dmg(17)EndRdx(27)
10) --> Aid Other==> Heal(10)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)Jump(23)Jump(23)
16) --> Aid Self==> Heal(16)Heal(19)Heal(19)IntRdx(21)IntRdx(21)
18) --> Swift==> Run(18)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)Heal(25)Heal(29)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22)EndMod(29)EndMod(40)
24) --> Lightning Reflexes==> Run(24)
26) --> Rage==> Rechg(26)Rechg(31)Rechg(39)
28) --> Static Shield==> DmgRes(28)DmgRes(31)DmgRes(39)
30) --> Lightning Field==> EndRdx(30)EndRdx(31)EndRdx(34)
32) --> Foot Stomp==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Rechg(33)Rechg(33)Dmg(34)Dmg(34)
35) --> Power Sink==> Rechg(35)EndMod(36)Rechg(36)EndMod(36)Rechg(37)EndMod(37)
38) --> Power Surge==> DmgRes(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
---------------------------------------------


Does it look better?

 

Posted

Think it depends a lot on what your doing also. Currently im levelling one of these but in a very fixed, organised team. This means we end up being on relentless and im facing a lot of angry mobs and i found my basic resists just weren't cutting it. To this end i specced out of Medicine and into tough and dropped power sink for hasten (We have a /kin).

I know this build wouldnt suit much solo or even PvP but it works for my in a team environment, so 1st at least look what your going to do with your brute.

 

Posted

With that slotting, going to struggle for endurance before L36.

As a brute, fury builds your damage, endurance, acc and recharge are the priorities in slotting.

 

Posted

So absolutely no damage enhs?

 

Posted

Personally, I have one damage enhancement in Punch, one in Haymaker and that's it. None in KO Blow or Foot Stomp - nevermind brawl or boxing (1 acc each). The rest are acc, endred and rech.

Only lvl 35 at the moment so I may throw a couple more damage in soon but, as MaX says: it's not a priority.

 

Posted

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So absolutely no damage enhs?

[/ QUOTE ]Personally, I'm going 1 acc 1 endrdx 1 rech to all my attacks (except maybe the 1st one), and then adding extra enhancements when I have spare slots. Those might be damage, but they might also be more recharge/endrdx, or even things like range, depending on the power.

 

Posted

As the saying in our SG goes 'more end means you can stay in combat longer .. the longer your in combat for the more fury you build..the more fury you build the less end you use the more dmg you do'.

don't count out jab as its a fast charging good fury building attack.
2 acc 1 end reduxs is what i had right up till lvl 20 when i had spare slots.
If your going to use that build in PVP i'd gladly meet you in warburg and beat the snot outa ya as it will be an end heavy ..piece of work lol and you'll struggle to hit anything and build fury.

Defiant's GoEH/MILITIS METUS