Moment Of Glory Is there A Piont??? Need Advice !

Flush_Skinz · 06-13-2006 04:14 PM

Moment Of Glory Is there A Piont??? Need Advice !
I have MOG On Skinz My Scrapper, atm I Find it pointless exept for the psy Defence.
Do I Need it??
How Should I Slott It??

TYVM All Advice will be helpfull & I would be Great Full.
Thx.
Flush

Mongoose_EU · 06-13-2006 04:16 PM

shouldnt this be in the scrappers section

Curruid · 06-13-2006 04:24 PM

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Moment Of Glory Is there A Piont??? Need Advice !
I have MOG On Skinz My Scrapper, atm I Find it pointless exept for the psy Defence.

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I'm not a regen scrapper but I'm pretty sure the big main weakness of MoG is that it doesn't have psi defence.

Sayia · 06-13-2006 04:29 PM

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Moment Of Glory Is there A Piont??? Need Advice !
I have MOG On Skinz My Scrapper, atm I Find it pointless exept for the psy Defence.
Do I Need it??
How Should I Slott It??

TYVM All Advice will be helpfull & I would be Great Full.
Thx.
Flush

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There isint any psy defence on it just you can tollerate it a tad more, i find it usefull for sticky situations, if im getting whcked by something i know MoG will help me with i stick it on, it takes your end up so you wont get tired and you can fly of if its needed .

Edit-- Slotting wise i have one 1 time red 2 Heal and 1 def

Flush_Skinz · 06-13-2006 04:44 PM

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Moment Of Glory Is there A Piont??? Need Advice !
I have MOG On Skinz My Scrapper, atm I Find it pointless exept for the psy Defence.
Do I Need it??
How Should I Slott It??

TYVM All Advice will be helpfull & I would be Great Full.
Thx.
Flush

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There isint any psy defence on it just you can tollerate it a tad more, i find it usefull for sticky situations, if im getting whcked by something i know MoG will help me with i stick it on, it takes your end up so you wont get tired and you can fly of if its needed .

Edit-- Slotting wise i have one 1 time red 2 Heal and 1 def

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TY Sayia

Flush_Skinz · 06-13-2006 04:44 PM

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Moment Of Glory Is there A Piont??? Need Advice !
I have MOG On Skinz My Scrapper, atm I Find it pointless exept for the psy Defence.
Do I Need it??
How Should I Slott It??

TYVM All Advice will be helpfull & I would be Great Full.
Thx.
Flush

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There isint any psy defence on it just you can tollerate it a tad more, i find it usefull for sticky situations, if im getting whcked by something i know MoG will help me with i stick it on, it takes your end up so you wont get tired and you can fly of if its needed .

Edit-- Slotting wise i have one 1 time red 2 Heal and 1 def

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TY Sayia

Flush_Skinz · 06-13-2006 04:46 PM

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shouldnt this be in the scrappers section

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Erm Sry I Needed Help Fast.
Sry to Bridger To *Noted* Next time go to the build section,

Sayia · 06-13-2006 04:46 PM

No probs Happy To Help.

Serio · 06-13-2006 04:47 PM

MoG is great slotted as follows: 3 Def, 1 Res

Protagonist_EU · 06-13-2006 05:16 PM

Hell, I have it 6 slotted...
2 rech 3 defence and 1 damage resistance.

Yeah, it's great when youre certain you will get shafted, atleast it buys you some time so you don't have to hit the floor so soon and maybe even survive.

Mog is my one true friend.

Flush_Skinz · 06-13-2006 05:18 PM

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MoG is great slotted as follows: 3 Def, 1 Res

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Sorry Little Confused, Slot Defence or Heal, I'm not bothered with recharge time or End?
Thx.

CaptainLupis · 06-13-2006 05:31 PM

Well, seeing as you CAN'T slot MoG for health...

Flush_Skinz · 06-14-2006 05:22 AM

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Well, seeing as you CAN'T slot MoG for health...

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Edit-- Slotting wise i have one 1 time red 2 Heal and 1 def
This was the first advice i was given, rofl now im confused.

I'm planning on slotting 2 Defence & 2 Damage Restance, not bothered with recharge.

Plz Say if I'm on the right track or not.
TY Every 1 for you advice so far.

CaptainLupis · 06-14-2006 05:41 AM

I'll need to double check when I get home later, but I am sure you couldn't slot for health before. However even if you can, I don't see the point. All I can imagine it doing is increasing the first heal before it chops off 75% of your hits. Quite frankly you would be better off slotting 3 recharge 1 res and 2 def. Or if you have resilience and aren't too worried about the other damage types just go for 3 recharge and 3 defence. Firing off Dull Pain before MoG is a good idea as you will get 25% of your boosted hits making you a bit more survivable.

Super_Shiny · 06-14-2006 10:22 AM

lol i was just thinking this

errr it doesnt have psi defense mate :P

MoG is an awsome power also, and if ur into role play it makes it even better!

Xironia · 06-14-2006 10:29 AM

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Well, seeing as you CAN'T slot MoG for health...

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Edit-- Slotting wise i have one 1 time red 2 Heal and 1 def
This was the first advice i was given, rofl now im confused.

I'm planning on slotting 2 Defence & 2 Damage Restance, not bothered with recharge.

Plz Say if I'm on the right track or not.
TY Every 1 for you advice so far.

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1 Resistance will max it out.

Personally I go with 1 Res, 3 Def 2 Recharge.

Wilfred · 06-14-2006 11:02 AM

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Moment Of Glory Is there A Piont?

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Yes. And don't use it against anything with psi, ever.

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Xironia · 06-14-2006 12:48 PM

Or Nems....Vengence = Dead you.

SinergyX_EU · 06-14-2006 01:46 PM

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get shafted, atleast it buys you some time so you don't have to hit the floor so soon and maybe even survive.

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Seen you at Infernal going MoG (and faceplant several times), but i was serious impressed by its strenght, wich was already pre-issue 7. Anything became better nowadays?

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Xironia · 06-14-2006 01:50 PM

Well it should be a lot stronger now, with the defence changes... Havent tried it yet cause im too lazy to respec my Kat/Regen >_>

Serio · 06-15-2006 08:57 AM

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MoG is great slotted as follows: 3 Def, 1 Res

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Sorry Little Confused, Slot Defence or Heal, I'm not bothered with recharge time or End?
Thx.

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slot DEF! you want your DEF as high as it can be when you MoG up, otherwise you be bugg3red. 1 RES will max out the dam res too. If you want two more slots then put 2 recharge in them.

MrMotivator · 06-15-2006 09:10 AM

oh yeah, rememebr to make a bind to warn the team you are MoGing. save a LOT of confusion...

Matakoshi · 06-15-2006 11:08 AM

MoG is also a fantastic power against Sappers. Not only does it have a +recovery so if they *do* hit you, your endurance is okay, the huge +DEF means they rarely hit you in the 1st place!

And no, don't use it against Psi. I made the mistake of *not* realising a carnie elite boss was psi. nearly dead so i hit MoG......and fell over.

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Flush_Skinz · 06-15-2006 04:23 PM

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slot DEF! you want your DEF as high as it can be when you MoG up, otherwise you be bugg3red. 1 RES will max out the dam res too. If you want two more slots then put 2 recharge in them.

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So I'm Thinking 3 Defence 1 or 2 Dmg Resistance.
I say 0 recharge basically because i have Hasten & could use the 2 slots elswhere.

I want to thake this time to thank every 1 for all you'r input, advice & tip's they were all considered & I now pray that the slotting is right (buti still need half a bar TNL) so when i lvlup Wish Me Luck

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Maelwys · 06-16-2006 05:10 AM

Actually it's now considerably WEAKER now with the defense changes.

Previously a mobs tohit chance versus your defense could be floored at 5%. MoG has super-high defense which effectively always put you at that cap. Now with the way the defense scaling is calculated the floor is slightly higher (opinions range from 7.5 to 10%, plenty of posts about this on the US scrapper forums).

As of the i7 defense changes, 45% defense will effectively floor any enemies accuracy (unless they have tohit buffs). Unslotted MoG gives you 80% defense against everything but PSI and Toxic and 40% resistance (a little over 60% when 3-slotted) against everything except PSI. Slotting any defense buffs in MoG is therefore only useful in PVP when you could get severely debuffed or encounter enemies with a large +tohit buff.

As a side note, there are a large number of /regen scrappers who think MoG is useless and/or against the theme of the powerset. My level 50 kat/regen/body has not got MoG and I have never, ever missed it in PVE. The only use I can see for MoG in a BS or Katana Scrapper build is in PVP to avoid repel (not knockback) effects.

In PVE, stacked Divine Avalanche/Parry and Instant Healing is far better at damage mitigation than MoG could ever hope to be... and you don't lose the ability to be healed for 3 minutes...