Ice/Dev for PVP


Alvan

 

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Being the complete n00b I am, I'm looking for some friendly advice on Ice/Dev for RV.

More specifically, I'm looking for such a build that relies on some other aspect of the Ice/Dev than ganking squishies.

Every working build I can think of either relies on too huge amount of preparation (setting up mines, bombs and turrets) or being stealthy and using holds to keep people under control and killing them before they can retaliate. Or in worst cases, both (set up mines, tp foe to them, rejoice).

I'm looking to you people for guidance, tell me, how to make a good pvp build with the said components (epic pool is freely choosable) that is fair to the enemies, sparing me from the foul-mouthing. But at the same time works well enough to be an threat in PvP.

Primary emphasis of the character is solo work in Zonal PvP.


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I am finding Ice a double edged sword in PvP.

You have 3 good single target attacks, which you mix up with holds. You can dispatch a full 5 attack burst in very quick order, and its possible to get all but Bitter Freeze Ray out of 1 Aim/BU.

The disadvantage is your range. Your highest damage attack is a close range one. Other blasters enjoy the BU/AIM snipe from safety strategy. I have to get in there and mix it up. Which is fine, because this allows me to tap into the damage potential of my secondary, Elec. Which is awesome.

I havent played with Devices. I think its an interesting pool, but i dont know if you might find it a bit fidly in RV. There is that much +perception going around, your stealth or even invis, (as i am finding) is almost useless. Meaning getting in close can be an occupational hazard. So you might find it difficult to use teh s3xy mining skills.

I am however using Fly. Most blasters have success jousting with superspeed. Get in, get out. However, your ice primary will not be sufficient to down anything other than squishies. For scrappers / tanks i have to use Havoc Punch, Charged Brawl and sometimes Thunderstrike.

I havent seen another Ice/Dev in my time in the game. Sounds like you could be unique. Be interested to know what PvP strategy you come up with!


 

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I havent seen another Ice/Dev in my time in the game. Sounds like you could be unique. Be interested to know what PvP strategy you come up with!

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If LadyWhite is still around i'd give him a shout. Dooms Day is his ice/dev blaster and was pretty successful by all accounts in PvP - i think built mainly as a squishy killer - slows, holds etc.

I don't think there are many but it seems they are becoming FotM now!


 

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I havent seen another Ice/Dev in my time in the game. Sounds like you could be unique. Be interested to know what PvP strategy you come up with!

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If LadyWhite is still around i'd give him a shout. Dooms Day is his ice/dev blaster and was pretty successful by all accounts in PvP - i think built mainly as a squishy killer - slows, holds etc.

I don't think there are many but it seems they are becoming FotM now!

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Dooms Day was good in 1v1 pvp but LW always chose Bitter Ice for team pvp over dooms day.

and on a side note who gives a monkeys about fotm? its how u use the toon that counts


 

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I havent seen another Ice/Dev in my time in the game. Sounds like you could be unique. Be interested to know what PvP strategy you come up with!

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If LadyWhite is still around i'd give him a shout. Dooms Day is his ice/dev blaster and was pretty successful by all accounts in PvP - i think built mainly as a squishy killer - slows, holds etc.

I don't think there are many but it seems they are becoming FotM now!

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Dooms Day was good in 1v1 pvp but LW always chose Bitter Ice for team pvp over dooms day.

and on a side note who gives a monkeys about fotm? its how u use the toon that counts

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Actually quite a few people give a monkeys...a minority like to be in a minority, to not be a sheep and not follow what's currently regarded to be 'da uber' build.


 

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This is a rough estimate of what I have now (levels the powers were taken aren't accurate, but the slotting is).

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Coldest War
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Devices
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01) --> Ice Bolt==> Dmg Dmg Dmg Rechg Acc Acc
01) --> Web Grenade==> Acc
02) --> Ice Blast==> Acc Acc Dmg Dmg Dmg
04) --> Caltrops==> Slow Rechg Rechg
06) --> Swift==> Run
08) --> Aim==> Rechg Rechg Rechg TH_Buf TH_Buf TH_Buf
10) --> Targeting Drone==> EndRdx EndRdx TH_Buf TH_Buf TH_Buf
12) --> Air Superiority==> Acc
14) --> Fly==> Fly Fly Fly EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
16) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc Acc Hold Hold Rechg Rechg
18) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Dmg Dmg NucleExp(Acc/Dmg) Acc EndRdx
20) --> Health==> Heal
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod EndMod EndMod
24) --> Assault==> EndRdx
26) --> Tactics==> EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
30) --> Cloaking Device==> EndRdx
32) --> Blizzard==> Dmg Dmg Dmg Rechg Rechg Rechg
35) --> Bitter Freeze Ray==> Acc Dmg Dmg Dmg
38) --> Smoke Grenade==> Acc Acc TH_DeBuf TH_DeBuf Rechg Rechg
41) --> Char==> Acc Acc Rechg Rechg Hold Hold
44) --> Bonfire==> Rechg Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
47) --> Ice Storm==> Dmg Dmg Dmg Acc
49) --> Rise of the Phoenix==> Rechg Rechg Rechg

As it's quite easy to see, the build is more about controlling the playing field in PvE than high damage.. AoE effects that cause enemies to go to certain directions - In PvE-situations I can basically sit behind a corner and kill people without them ever seeing a glimpse of me

In PvP he usual attack chain against a squishy goes: Char, Freeze Ray, Aim, Ice Bolt, Bitter Ice Blast, Ice Blast, Ice Bolt or Bitter Freeze Ray. If they've hit Break Free, it's time to Smoke Grenade, Web Grenade and Caltrop the playing field and continue.

Against Masterminds using Bonfire's autohit knockback is essential - it separates the master from the pets and makes Bodyguard useless.

Brutes are usually beyond my damage skills, so the most I do against them is Web Grenade + Smoke Grenade (Caltrops if feeling playful) and then go to after the squishy they were teaming with.

Stalkers who aren't Eludin have never been a problem, On a previous build I had the Tactics + Targetting Drone combination running in Bloody Bay levels, and I consider myself quite good at hunting stalkers at Siren's. In RV, the number of Invis + Hides is on the rise, but haven't really noticed it yet. And as an added bonus if I get ganked now, I have RotP to get back into action without going though the hospital.

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If LadyWhite is still around i'd give him a shout. Dooms Day is his ice/dev blaster and was pretty successful by all accounts in PvP - i think built mainly as a squishy killer - slows, holds etc.

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Well, squishy killer role is fun and all that, but I'm getting a lot of lip from people getting ganked, so this thread was more an effort to try and create something else..


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Maybe up the slotting on web grenade (extra accuracy). Such a useful and nasty power in pvp.


 

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and on a side note who gives a monkeys about fotm? its how u use the toon that counts

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If u pay for the account, you choose what character to play, if you want to make a toon thats fotm, then so what.


 

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exactly. if u want a toon that a lot of ppl use and u think u'll enjoy then have fun with it, its what games are for


 

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Well, luckily I've been playing with War for long enough to be able to say it was my main toon even back when the power combo was totally gimped, and made it to 50 before the changes came that made it good...

So in my mind I've earned the right to play a FotM now


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