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Spines/Invul build?

Generalissimo

By Generalissimo,
Posted on: 2006-05-15 18:14 in Scrappers

 

Posted

Any build suggestions that incorporate pvp please?

Thanks

 

Posted

This is my build roughly as it stands now.


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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Name
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Spines
Secondary: Invulnerability
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01) --> Lunge==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(11) Dmg(13) Rechg(21)
01) --> Resist Physical Damage==> DmgRes(1) DmgRes(5) DmgRes(13)
02) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(2) DmgRes(5) EndRdx(17) EndRdx(31)
04) --> Spine Burst==> Acc(4) Dmg(7) Dmg(19) Dmg(29) Rechg(40) Slow(48)
06) --> Dull Pain==> Rechg(6) Rechg(7) Rechg(11) Heal(31) Heal(40) Heal(43)
08) --> Build Up==> Rechg(8) Rechg(9) Rechg(9) TH_Buf(37) TH_Buf(46)
10) --> Resist Elements==> DmgRes(10) DmgRes(19) DmgRes(21)
12) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(12)
14) --> Fly==> EndRdx(14) Fly(15) Fly(43) Fly(45)
16) --> Impale==> Acc(16) Range(17) Dmg(34) Dmg(34) Dmg(40) Rechg(45)
18) --> Swift==> Run(18) Run(34) Run(39)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20) Heal(23) Heal(31)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(27)
24) --> Quills==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(25) Acc(25) Slow(33)
26) --> Unyielding==> DmgRes(26) DmgRes(27) DmgRes(37) EndRdx(37) EndRdx(39)
28) --> Ripper==> Acc(28) Acc(29) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(46) Rechg(46)
30) --> Invincibility==> DefBuf(30) DefBuf(36) DefBuf(36) EndRdx(36) TH_Buf(39) TH_Buf(43)
32) --> Resist Energies==> DmgRes(32) DmgRes(42) DmgRes(45)
35) --> Tough Hide==> DefBuf(35) DefBuf(42) DefBuf(42)
38) --> Unstoppable==> Rechg(38)
41) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(41) Rechg(47) Rechg(47)
44) --> Focused Accuracy==> TH_Buf(44) TH_Buf(47) EndRdx(48)
47) --> Laser Beam Eyes==> Acc(47) Acc(48) DefDeBuf(48)
49) --> Throw Spines==> Acc(49) Dmg(50) Dmg(50) Dmg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Posted

Take Superspeed instead of Fly, screw LBE if you aren't going to slot it and don't you dare think of not six slotting Focused Accuracy.

World of Jackcraft.

 

Posted

Cheers for that I'd like to slot LBE & Foc Acc, any ideas on how to swap the slots around, bearing in mind that if I take SS I'll need hasten 3 slotted too !

 

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Cheers for that I'd like to slot LBE & Foc Acc, any ideas on how to swap the slots around, bearing in mind that if I take SS I'll need hasten 3 slotted too !

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3 spare from fly if you dont take that

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Posted

I have an idea - leave it to you, you're going to have to sacrifice stuff from Invuln and it's gonna come down to personal preference, I think.

World of Jackcraft.

 

Posted

Indeed but any ideas on LBE & Foc Acc, where I might swap around a bit, cos I havent!

 

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Alright I did it anyway, this is what I came up with now it's your turn, presumably as an experienced Spines/Invuln (which I'm not) to tell me how you think this is going to work.

'Cause I have no bloody clue.

Edit: Err I forgot to post the build -

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Exported from Ver: 1.6.8.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Spines
Secondary: Invulnerability
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01) --> Lunge==> Acc(1)
01) --> Resist Physical Damage==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(46)
02) --> Spine Burst==> Acc(2)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(15)Rechg(34)EndRdx(34)
04) --> Dull Pain==> Rechg(4)Rechg(5)Rechg(5)Heal(21)Heal(21)Heal(23)
06) --> Temp Invulnerability==> EndRdx(6)DmgRes(7)DmgRes(7)
08) --> Impale==> Acc(8)Dmg(9)Dmg(9)Dmg(15)Rechg(34)Rechg(36)
10) --> Hasten==> Rechg(10)Rechg(11)Rechg(11)
12) --> Build Up==> Rechg(12)Rechg(13)Rechg(13)TH_Buf(43)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)Run(48)
16) --> Unyielding==> DmgRes(16)DmgRes(17)EndRdx(17)
18) --> Quills==> EndRdx(18)EndRdx(19)EndRdx(19)Acc(23)Acc(40)Dmg(40)
20) --> Hurdle==> Jump(20)
22) --> Health==> Heal(22)
24) --> Stamina==> EndRec(24)EndRec(25)EndRec(25)
26) --> Ripper==> Acc(26)Dmg(27)Dmg(27)Dmg(29)Rechg(37)EndRdx(40)
28) --> Resist Elements==> DmgRes(28)DmgRes(29)DmgRes(31)
30) --> Resist Energies==> DmgRes(30)DmgRes(31)DmgRes(31)
32) --> Throw Spines==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Rechg(37)EndRdx(37)
35) --> Tough Hide==> DefBuf(35)DefBuf(36)DefBuf(36)
38) --> Unstoppable==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)DmgRes(39)
41) --> Focused Accuracy==> EndRdx(41)EndRdx(42)EndRdx(42)TH_Buf(42)TH_Buf(43)TH_Buf(43)
44) --> Laser Beam Eyes==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)EndRdx(46)Rechg(46)
47) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(47)Rechg(48)Rechg(48)
49) --> Aid Other==> Heal(49)Heal(50)IntRdx(50)IntRdx(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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World of Jackcraft.

 

Posted

I was just working on it, thanks for doing that

Think you have cracked it with the single slot in lunge, since that's not my primary attack & only a fill in, it can certainly warrant only 1 slot, when I get the really nice stuff further on.

1 question though, why the heal other? Sorry haven't scrapped for a long time in pvp (so may have missed the point on this!).

Thanks anyway

 

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Err Aid other? I thought I was picking Aid Self. Aid other would be a stupid idea forget that.

I thought Aid Self would synergise well with Invuln but apparently you need other stuff to get it. You might want to go in and get that I dunno, but don't just get Aid Other, that would be suck.

World of Jackcraft.

 

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Np, easily done

In that case I'll try a similar build on test with Invincibilty instead of aid other, wouldn't be without invinc, as it could be a saving grace if I get ganked by multiple players. Though I'm not sure of the values to +def in pvp!

 

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I've been PvPing a fair bit with my spines/inv in Sirens and I've been enjoying it immensely. I've been following a mostly PvE oriented build while levelling up but will be respeccing into a more PvP focussed build once the freespec has been issued and I've gotten to lvl 36 (lvl 36 is the level at which I feel I can switch into a PvP build without impacting my usefulness in PvE).

Anyways, for comparison purposes here's the build I've been levelling with:

01 : Resist Physical Damage damres(01)
01 : Lunge acc(01) dam(3) dam(5) dam(11)
02 : Spine Burst acc(02) acc(3) dam(5) dam(11) dam(13)
04 : Temp Invulnerability endred(04) damres(7) damres(15) damres(19)
06 : Dull Pain recred(06) recred(7) recred(15) hel(25)
08 : Impale acc(08) dam(9) dam(9) dam(13) acc(25)
10 : Hasten recred(10)
12 : Build Up recred(12) recred(21) recred(21)
14 : Super Speed runspd(14)
16 : Unyielding endred(16) damres(17) damres(17) damres(19)
18 : Hurdle jmp(18)
20 : Health hel(20)
22 : Stamina endrec(22) endrec(23) endrec(23)
24 : Stealth endred(24)
26 : Ripper acc(26) dam(27) dam(27) dam(29) acc(34)
28 : Invincibility endred(28) defbuf(29) defbuf(31) defbuf(31)
30 : Quills endred(30) endred(31) endred(34)
32 : Throw Spines acc(32) dam(33) dam(33) dam(33) acc(34)

And here's the build I'm planning on respeccing into at lvl 36:

01 : Resist Physical Damage damres(01)
01 : Lunge acc(01) dam(5) dam(11) dam(13)
02 : Temp Invulnerability damres(02) damres(3) damres(3) endred(7)
04 : Dull Pain recred(04) recred(5) recred(7) hel(43) hel(43) hel(45)
06 : Spine Burst acc(06) dam(15) dam(23) dam(25) endred(46) recred(46)
08 : Impale acc(08) dam(9) dam(9) dam(11) recred(13) recred(19)
10 : Hasten recred(10) recred(45) recred(45)
12 : Hurdle jmp(12) jmp(34) jmp(50)
14 : Super Speed runspd(14) runspd(15)
16 : Unyielding damres(16) damres(17) damres(17) endred(19)
18 : Health hel(18)
20 : Stamina endrec(20) endrec(21) endrec(21)
22 : Quills endred(22) endred(23) acc(33) acc(33) endred(40) acc(46)
24 : Assault endred(24) endred(25)
26 : Ripper acc(26) dam(27) dam(27) dam(29) recred(31) recred(34)
28 : Tactics endred(28) endred(29) endred(33) thtbuf(40) thtbuf(42) thtbuf(43)
30 : Build Up recred(30) recred(31) recred(31) thtbuf(48) thtbuf(50) thtbuf(50)
32 : Throw Spines acc(32) dam(34) dam(37) dam(37) endred(37) recred(48)
35 : Invincibility defbuf(35) defbuf(36) defbuf(36) endred(36)
38 : Unstoppable damres(38) damres(39) recred(39) recred(39) recred(40)
41 : Focused Accuracy endred(41) endred(42) endred(42) thtbuf(48)
44 : Conserve Power recred(44)

I haven't settled on my lvl 47 and 49 powers yet. I'll either be picking up superjump or stealth, depending on how the mood takes me. I've tried to optimise my build for use in Siren's PvP (I've prioritised slotting of tohitbuffs in powers which will be available in Siren's) and I've also tried to keep functional for PvE.

Edit: corrected my slotting of Dull Pain

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How do you find the set without the passives?

 

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I don't miss them all that much, but then again I've been soloing for the most part. On the occasions I've been on large teams I've found that I'm perfectly fine if there's good healing/buffing/debuffing support. Facing reds/purples I tended to faceplant a bit because of the aggro I was drawing with my aoes and quills. With good support that was less of an issue. On medium teams and against yellows and oranges I'm pretty self sufficient. If I was looking to improve my survivability I wouldn't go the passives route anyway - I'd do the same as I did with my Inv tanker and pick up Aid Self.

Defiant 50�s: Generalissimo, Righteous Bob, Splortch, Brutus Cayuga
Union 50's: Chimera Obscura, Diet Anthracite, Grim Proctologist, Puny Little Minion, Raging Bitumen

In Soviet Russia, mission farm you!