It includes the base 500 yards. If both you and a stalker are at the stealth/perception cap, you can only see them from 10 yards away or less.
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It includes the base 500 yards. If both you and a stalker are at the stealth/perception cap, you can only see them from 10 yards away or less.
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The buffs (and maybe ranges) also work differently depending on AT. Defenders get the most out of +perception for instance.
Thanks guys.
my stalker is usually at stealth cap and freon is usually at the perception cap and I really did need to be on top of him for him to see me so 10yrd when both capped is about right.
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seems to me that that person in BB going on about stealth/per actualy knew what she was talking about.
wasn't really a need to go on about it on the forums was there.
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It includes the base 500 yards. If both you and a stalker are at the stealth/perception cap, you can only see them from 10 yards away or less.
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The buffs (and maybe ranges) also work differently depending on AT. Defenders get the most out of +perception for instance.
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Nope, it's just that the total buff Defenders give/get for +perception is of higher value. The cap is the same for all ATs.
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seems to me that that person in BB going on about stealth/per actualy knew what she was talking about.
wasn't really a need to go on about it on the forums was there.
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I didnt detail anything but since you brought it up I said a scrapper running tactics and FA can see a stalker with only hide and stealth and no invis.
She said hide and stealth alone would be enough. After going through the figures she then decided to add in grant invis, which was just agreeing with my 1st statement anyway.
End of the day my post had nothing to do with her figures on stealth vs perc but the fact that she called another player an [Censored]. She had no reason at all for doing this and it was grounds for her to be petitioned.
THAT was what my post on Defiant PvP was about not her and her teams lack of knowledge or skill.
Since you were there though can you give one good reason why someone should start swearing and insulting other players when all another player says over broadcast is "lol, gg" after getting killed and "nn, thanks for the fun" before he is going to log off?
P.S. Another interesting thing is that said stalker mentioned that it was she who has given links on euro forum regarding stealth and perc..... she was Ninja Blade/Ninjitsu if memory serves me right.
thats not how i heard it .. but meh ..whos cares anyway.
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no harm in asking for other peeps opinions on forums chels, nice to know some info on it tho, ta gorg for making it 
I think untill i7 comes we won't really know ..might bring about afew changes to +per or stealth.
one thing we do know is that each stealth power reduced the range stalkers can be seen at so with the per and stealth figures so close together i think we can safely say its going to be very short range.
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One question about perc and stealth cap.
From Peritus' and Iakona's figures stalker stealth cap is 1143 at level 50 while player perc cap is 1153.
Theory A:
I always took this to mean that stalkers can reach a max of -1143 stealth and players a max of +1153 perc.
If this is the case then this would mean that perc is 500+1153=1653 and thus if both sides are capped the stalker is easily seen.
Theory B:
The 1153 figure includes the base 500 therefore making it so someone at perc cap will only see a stalker from 10yards.
Can anyone who has tested this verify which is the case please? (and please go by testing and not forum figures).
P.S. On the U.S. forum one stalker says:
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your spreadsheet is amazing, but one thing i cant understand is that even at max perception and my max -perception i was seen from over 100 feet away by a controller in sirens call
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An answer is given that he must have had hide suppressed or something and that otherwise 10yards would me max perception range.
From what I can see though this answer may not have been properly tested but mearly going by figures. What the stalker sayes backs up theory A while the answer backs theory B.