Claws/SR Build


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I made this build with some sort of hero planner just want to know if you guys know things that can be better
Dont mind the Enhancement slots levels just done it quickly

Archetype: Scrapper
Primary Powers - Ranged : Claws
Secondary Powers - Support : Super Reflexes

01 : Focused Fighting defbuf(01) defbuf(3) defbuf(3) endred(5) endred(5) endred(50)
01 : Strike dam(01) dam(7) dam(7) acc(9) acc(9) recred(11)
02 : Slash dam(02) dam(11) dam(13) acc(13) acc(15) acc(15)
04 : Agile defbuf(04) defbuf(17) defbuf(17)
06 : Focused Senses defbuf(06) defbuf(19) defbuf(19) endred(21) endred(21) endred(50)
08 : Swift runspd(08)
10 : Practiced Brawler recred(10) recred(23)
12 : Combat Jumping endred(12)
14 : Super Jump jmp(14)
16 : Dodge defbuf(16) defbuf(23) defbuf(25)
18 : Focus dam(18) dam(25) dam(27) acc(27) acc(29) recred(29)
20 : Stimulant recred(20)
22 : Aid Self hel(22) hel(31) inttim(31) inttim(31) endred(33)
24 : Health hel(24) hel(33) hel(33)
26 : Stamina endrec(26) endrec(34) endrec(34)
28 : Eviscerate dam(28) dam(34) dam(36) acc(36) acc(36) recred(37)
30 : Quickness runspd(30)
32 : Follow Up dam(32) dam(37) acc(43) acc(43) thtbuf(46) recred(46)
35 : Evasion defbuf(35) defbuf(37) defbuf(39) endred(39) endred(39) endred(50)
38 : Elude defbuf(38) defbuf(40) defbuf(40) recred(40) recred(42) recred(42)
41 : Lucky defbuf(41) defbuf(42) defbuf(43)
44 : Focused Accuracy thtbuf(44) thtbuf(45) thtbuf(45) endred(45) endred(46) endred(48)
47 : Hasten recred(47) recred(48) recred(48)
49 : Resuscitate recred(49)


 

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No Shockwave?

If I were you I'd wait until I7 hits, there's going to be some pretty big changes to the Claws powerset.


 

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Well after trying to read the bright yellow text "omg!" i decided it maybe better to reconstruct your build (in a how i would slot in a workable way). My claws scrapper is Katalina and her endurance bar basically "ever so slowly moves" unless i have of course left superjump on. endurance wise I am ok there, well happy. It looks to me as though you are spending more endurance slots on the toggles to drop your endurance use per second rather than have them in your attacks. Firstly claws aint a fast 1 on 1 finisher, so attack chains can be drawn out and each attack has a much higher endurance cost rate per second than what your toggles have (endurance cost per attack divided by the action time of the attack). Whilst an attack is recharging you are using another attack so the beat goes on. I dont personally look at any armour set and go "oh thats end draining" I look at my attacks for that.
Also accuracy mucho mucho overkill, how much do you need? On Shannon (my tank) her accuracy can be through the roof no tohits in invincible (cos its poor return) but has accuracy slotted, focused accuracy for the times she its a risk to use rage and rage obviously for the lets get this AV down quick moments or basically when that sapper must not be missed. But on claws I do feel it is an inaccurate set quite frankly but not that inaccurate to the point you need so much accuracy in game. When it comes to acc debuffs your most likely going to be missed although not always. I feel follow up is great early levels (when you lack damage slots especially) and maybe once you have all the damage slots you need respec it out for focused accuracy so you have more freedom of movement with less worries about missing (and i worry about it as missing is a complete waste of the endurance of the attack and the enemy has an extra turn so to speak). Afaik you get more of an accuracy boost coming from follow up than focused accuracy problem though is landing the follow up in the first place! Having an attack chain so that you use follow up just inside of 12 seconds would be nice but IN REALITY you may not want to use follow up. Below is something I can read with focused senses and agile changed around (makes more sense to me). I have also slotted from my own personal experience, its okay slotting no real end problems but I have had different powers in a different order.

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Name: Lillia Perfecta
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Claws
Secondary: Super Reflexes
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01) --> Strike==> Acc(1) EndRdx(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) Rechg(43)
01) --> Focused Fighting==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(3) DefBuf(3) EndRdx(43)
02) --> Slash==> Acc(2) EndRdx(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) DefDeBuf(17)
04) --> Focused Senses==> DefBuf(4) DefBuf(5) DefBuf(5) EndRdx(45)
06) --> Agile==> DefBuf(6) DefBuf(40) DefBuf(43)
08) --> Swift==> Run(8)
10) --> Practiced Brawler==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11) EndRdx(11)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Dodge==> DefBuf(16) DefBuf(17) DefBuf(42)
18) --> Focus==> Acc(18) EndRdx(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(21) Rechg(34)
20) --> Stimulant==> IntRdx(20)
22) --> Aid Self==> IntRdx(22) IntRdx(23) Rechg(23) Heal(25) Heal(25) Heal(37)
24) --> Health==> Heal(24) Heal(37) Heal(37)
26) --> Stamina==> EndMod(26) EndMod(27) EndMod(27)
28) --> Eviscerate==> Acc(28) EndRdx(29) Dmg(29) Dmg(31) Dmg(31) Rechg(31)
30) --> Quickness==> Run(30)
32) --> Follow Up==> Acc(32) Acc(33) EndRdx(33) TH_Buf(33) TH_Buf(34) TH_Buf(34)
35) --> Evasion==> DefBuf(35) DefBuf(36) DefBuf(36) EndRdx(36)
38) --> Elude==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(40) DefBuf(40)
41) --> Lucky==> DefBuf(41) DefBuf(42) DefBuf(42)
44) --> Hasten==> Rechg(44) Rechg(45) Rechg(45)
47) --> Focused Accuracy==> EndRdx(47) EndRdx(48) EndRdx(48) TH_Buf(48) TH_Buf(50) TH_Buf(50)
49) --> Resuscitate==> EndRdx(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> EndRdx(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> IntRdx(2)
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Ok thats something i can read better. Why resuscitate someone when you could of taunted their assailant and saved them?

I too would like to know where shockwave is as its sooo much dps. It must be where the set exceeds the other scrapper sets surely. I took combat kick instead of combat jump as its an attack chain filler, has a irresistable knockback pvp (must test on a tanker sometime) and suits my concept.

ok here is my suggestion, its too late in the day for me to pick at every detail myself though:

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Name: Lillia Perfecta
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Claws
Secondary: Super Reflexes
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01) --> Strike==> Acc(1) EndRdx(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(13) Dmg(15)
01) --> Focused Fighting==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(3) DefBuf(3) EndRdx(43)
02) --> Slash==> Acc(2) EndRdx(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) DefDeBuf(46)
04) --> Focused Senses==> DefBuf(4) DefBuf(5) DefBuf(5) EndRdx(43)
06) --> Stimulant==> IntRdx(6) Range(48) EndRdx(48)
08) --> Swift==> Run(8)
10) --> Practiced Brawler==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11) EndRdx(11)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Follow Up==> Acc(16) Acc(17) EndRdx(17) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(48)
18) --> Focus==> Acc(18) EndRdx(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(21) Rechg(31)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20) Heal(43) Heal(45)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(23)
24) --> Aid Self==> IntRdx(24) Rechg(25) Rechg(25) Heal(31) Heal(34) Heal(34)
26) --> Eviscerate==> Acc(26) Acc(27) EndRdx(27) Dmg(29) Dmg(29) Dmg(31)
28) --> Dodge==> DefBuf(28) DefBuf(36) DefBuf(37)
30) --> Agile==> DefBuf(30) DefBuf(37) DefBuf(37)
32) --> Shockwave==> Acc(32) EndRdx(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34) Rechg(40)
35) --> Evasion==> DefBuf(35) DefBuf(36) DefBuf(36) EndRdx(42)
38) --> Elude==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(40) DefBuf(40)
41) --> Lucky==> DefBuf(41) DefBuf(42) DefBuf(42)
44) --> Hasten==> Rechg(44) Rechg(45) Rechg(45)
47) --> Quickness==> Run(47)
49) --> Confront==> Taunt(49) Range(50) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> EndRdx(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> IntRdx(2)
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i played with your build and cheekily snuck in confront and shockwave ftw! slotting wise its not that dissimilar to what i am playing with now.


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IMO quickness is left a little late in both builds there, but claws may not need it as much as DM does. Quickness and Practised Brawler are what make SR stand out until it gets its lovely panic button. And of course quickness reduces the recharge on elude too


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16) --> Follow Up==> Acc(16) Acc(17) EndRdx(17) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(48)


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I didnt knew that Follow Up increases your accuracy??
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01) --> Strike==> Acc(1) EndRdx(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(13) Dmg(15)
02) --> Slash==> Acc(2) EndRdx(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) DefDeBuf(46)
18) --> Focus==> Acc(18) EndRdx(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(21) Rechg(31)
26) --> Eviscerate==> Acc(26) Acc(27) EndRdx(27) Dmg(29) Dmg(29) Dmg(31)
32) --> Shockwave==> Acc(32) EndRdx(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34) Rechg(40


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How do I hit Stalkers(Ninjitsu/Energy Aura/SR) if I allready miss sometimes with 2 ACC in Focus now???
(I PvP alot and most Stalkers dont have Stealth so I can see them with Focused Senses but if they have nice defense I cant hit them out of Hide. Focus is a great power to hit them out of Hide because it is ranged and Eviscerate has a long animation so more chance for them to AS me.)
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01) --> Focused Fighting==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(3) DefBuf(3) EndRdx(43)
04) --> Focused Senses==> DefBuf(4) DefBuf(5) DefBuf(5) EndRdx(43)
35) --> Evasion==> DefBuf(35) DefBuf(36) DefBuf(36) EndRdx(42)


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Only 1 end reduc in the toggles?! Are those end reducs in the attacks really helping alot than?


 

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If I were you I'd wait until I7 hits, there's going to be some pretty big changes to the Claws powerset.

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Hmmm where can I find those changes?


 

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If I were you I'd wait until I7 hits, there's going to be some pretty big changes to the Claws powerset.

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Hmmm where can I find those changes?

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Nothing is known for certain, but according to various dev posts on the US forums there will be some animation changes and other tweaks.


 

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If I were you I'd wait until I7 hits, there's going to be some pretty big changes to the Claws powerset.

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Hmmm where can I find those changes?

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Nothing is known for certain, but according to various dev posts on the US forums there will be some animation changes and other tweaks.

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Cool


 

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16) --> Follow Up==> Acc(16) Acc(17) EndRdx(17) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(48)


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I didnt knew that Follow Up increases your accuracy??
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Follow Up is the Build Up of the Claws set, so it does .


 

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01) --> Strike==> Acc(1) EndRdx(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(13) Dmg(15)
02) --> Slash==> Acc(2) EndRdx(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) DefDeBuf(46)
18) --> Focus==> Acc(18) EndRdx(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(21) Rechg(31)
26) --> Eviscerate==> Acc(26) Acc(27) EndRdx(27) Dmg(29) Dmg(29) Dmg(31)
32) --> Shockwave==> Acc(32) EndRdx(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34) Rechg(40


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How do I hit Stalkers(Ninjitsu/Energy Aura/SR) if I allready miss sometimes with 2 ACC in Focus now???
(I PvP alot and most Stalkers dont have Stealth so I can see them with Focused Senses but if they have nice defense I cant hit them out of Hide. Focus is a great power to hit them out of Hide because it is ranged and Eviscerate has a long animation so more chance for them to AS me.)


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mate its a final lvl 50 build, you may of needed to have an extra accuracy slots pre follow up but once you get follow up you remove an accuracy slot for damage and its a guide too so tweak it to suit your needs. Take out the recharge on focus and add an accuracy. I have 2 accuracies in my prize attacks which are the most damaging, most end sapping but i find them still the most likely to miss too.

The changes I think are with the action time and end reduction of certain powers. Claws is meant to have lower end cost and fast recharge (hence late quickness is reasonably fine) to make it stand out from the other sets. The action time of some attacks made the point of having a fast recharge in other powers pointless, and some of the powers endurance costs was not as low as it should be compared to other scrapper sets. In making the changes to tweak claws right the damage per second capability has improved and is supposed be higher than other scrapper sets. I personally wonder if the possible damage output of shockwave is included because that can hit like 10 foes pretty damn good so by adding all their damage taken up you have great dps. In pvp though a bunch of people standing together for their picture taken is a bit of wishful thinking for claws so i hope that the multihits arent too seriously taken into account.

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Only 1 end reduc in the toggles?! Are those end reducs in the attacks really helping alot than?

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Your base end recovery should be enough to cope with the toggles unslotted for endurance. The EPS of the toggles is phenomenally low in comparison to the EPS of your attacks hence your end drops whilst your fighting and not before. I know regens fighting to keep their endurance up against my toon.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.