/SR: Quickness query


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Just wanted to get some advice for my MA/SR scrapper. The toon is level 50, but I’m respec’ing (again)for ED. I did have Hasten in the build which I’m dropping, so my question is about whether Quickness is worth taking or not.

Basically, I’m concerned about two major things here:

1. Will I be able to perma-PB without Quickness? If so, how many SO slots will it take?
2. My attacks are Storm Kick, Air Superiority, Crippling Axe Kick, Crane Kick and Eagle’s Claw. To get a solid attack chain going, will one recharge SO be sufficient without Quickness, or would I need two?


 

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PB
duration: 120 secs
recharge: 200 secs

Adding Recharge SOs
1 x SO++ = 146 secs
2 x SO++= 115 secs

And with Quickness
1 x SO++ + Quickness = 128 seconds
2 x SO++ + Quickness = 104 seconds


 

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In my opinion, quickness is now a must have power. It acts as if you had 1 rech SO in all your powers.
Now that perma hasten is gone this power is finally worth it, it wasn't the case before ED.
For practiced brawler : 2 recharge SO make it perma.
For your attack chain : quickness is equivalent as 1 recharge SO, so 1 recharge per attack should be enough.

This said, i wouldn't drop hasten. The downtime on a 6 slotted hasten with quickness is 34 seconds, it's still really worth it, of course it is just my opinion.


 

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agreed...i would say quickness is a very useful power to have.

i have mine 3 slotted with running speed. not only is it useful in the recycling of your powers, but its a hell of a lot of fun zipping around the map in missions.

i haven't got hasten as of yet as the recharge for my attacks is sufficient enough., however will be getting later on in the game.




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Another /SR scrapper without hasten. Can confirm PB only needs two SOs to perma, although I've still got 3 slots in it from my DO days.


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I wouldn't have thought PB with 3 slots was such a bad idea mind you, more so for PvP so if you do get dropped you can get the power back as soon as possible.


 

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I'm also respeccing my MA/SR at the moment.

I've got to say for /SR Quickness is a nice luxury to have but I still prefer Hasten.
IIRC Hasten is equivalent to 2 SO recharges in every power. Even with ED the downtime on Hasten is not much. It's hardly noticible (and I think it also gives a slight Defense buff - cant remember if this was removed).

Also you get the speed pool and I've always thought Superspeed is one
of the most useful travel powers - with it's inherent invis and being able to get into melee range fast.
To get vertical I took Hover too - which works nicely for me!


 

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Cheers folks.

I remained unconvinced of Hasten’s usefulness to the SR scrapper following the introduction of enhancement diversification; by taking quickness, you’re capable of having a workable attack chain and a majority of the SR powers are toggles, with the exeception being Elude, which is more a ‘panic button’ for me rather than something I use with any degree of regularity.

Using a 1 acc / 3 dam / 1 rchg / 1 endred slotting basis and with quickness, an attack chain of SK-AS-CAK-SK-CK seems to give me decent DPS. The real umming and aaahing is over the value of EC as an attack in the MA set, but that’s a whole different kettle of fish

Plus, I’ve PB on perm-click, hasten is simply another thing to remember, and I’m pretty old and forgetful.


 

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I wouldn't have thought PB with 3 slots was such a bad idea mind you, more so for PvP so if you do get dropped you can get the power back as soon as possible.

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More so still - you can stack it, for greater mez protection.


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I wouldn't have thought PB with 3 slots was such a bad idea mind you, more so for PvP so if you do get dropped you can get the power back as soon as possible.

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More so still - you can stack it, for greater mez protection.

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Although you cant drop a click-power like pb.


 

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I wouldn't have thought PB with 3 slots was such a bad idea mind you, more so for PvP so if you do get dropped you can get the power back as soon as possible.

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More so still - you can stack it, for greater mez protection.

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Although you cant drop a click-power like pb.

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Wreck, didnt mean to imply it was a toggle drop.
I think he meant to say 'get dropped' as in 'Defeated'.
So if you die and get rezzed/go to hosp (or even mezzed) you will have PB available faster.

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To HarvestMoon: Yup I agree now that Hasten is not really needed for SR if you take Quickness. In fact I respecced out SS & Hasten and took Fly and Quickness instead.
Flying is so much more convenient- although I do miss SS.