New build for an old Fire/Rad...
ok..after reading all this..Later on tonight OR tomorrow morning, I will post the build I have now and we can all play with it from there. ok? maybe I just need to tweak 1-2 powers in or out and change some slotting..my main concern was the psi mastery vs fire app
-Pogoman, Master of Kick-Fu
-Co-Leader and recruiting officer of the Virtue Honor Guard
- lvl 50 ma/sr scrapper
-Ace O' Diamonds lvl 50 fire/rad controller
and waaaay to many other alts to mention right now
The Mez hole is a gaping one in my build. I wouldn't mind switching over to the Psi epic, once I get some more Recovery bonuses, but for now, I am hopelessly addicted to Consume.
Stay Gold, Paragon. Stay Gold.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
Hope the OP doesn't mind me throwing in a build...but was working on a Fire/Rad build...I have the LotG, have all the IOs seen in Pool Powers/Rad Powers (what I basically lack are all the purples...well I have a few of the hold set)...in my ILL/RAD build (she's my baby for now, if I don't find I like FIRE/RAD more)...that I was thinking of transfering over to my new FIRE/RAD...
But I would love a build critique
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...like I said, have all but the purple sets (exception of a couple of the holds) and the pet set (didnt need it on my ILL/RAD).
BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
Ok, upon request Im posting thecurrent/original build of my fire/rad..a little embarrassed as I can see some IMMEDIATE changes needed..Im sure youll point them out anyway .. here comes the fiasco!!
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/
[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]
ace now: Level 50 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)[*] (3) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge[*] (3) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (5) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Endurance/Hold[*] (5) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (7) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Hold/Range[/list]Level 1: Radiant Aura <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Golgi Exposure[*] (7) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge[*] (9) Doctored Wounds - Recharge[*] (9) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge[*] (11) Doctored Wounds - Heal[*] (11) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 2: Radiation Infection <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[*] (13) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[*] (13) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[/list]Level 4: Accelerate Metabolism <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (15) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (15) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (17) Endurance Modification IO[*] (17) Endurance Modification IO[*] (19) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod[/list]Level 6: Fire Cages <ul type="square">[*] (A) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold[*] (19) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize[*] (21) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge[*] (21) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge[*] (23) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge[/list]Level 8: Hover <ul type="square">[*] (A) Karma - Knockback Protection[/list]Level 10: Enervating Field <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[*] (23) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[*] (25) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[/list]Level 12: Swift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO[/list]Level 14: Fly <ul type="square">[*] (A) Freebird - FlySpeed[*] (25) Soaring - FlySpeed[/list]Level 16: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Healing IO[*] (27) Doctored Wounds - Heal[*] (27) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance[/list]Level 18: Flashfire <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure[*] (46) HamiO:Peroxisome Exposure[*] (46) Rope A Dope - Endurance/Stun[*] (48) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (50) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge[*] (50) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Stun[/list]Level 20: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Modification IO[*] (29) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End[*] (29) Performance Shifter - EndMod[/list]Level 22: Lingering Radiation <ul type="square">[*] (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge[*] (31) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow[*] (31) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (31) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow[/list]Level 24: Cinders <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)[*] (33) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge[*] (33) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (33) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Endurance/Hold[*] (34) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (34) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Hold/Range[/list]Level 26: Hot Feet <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (34) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow[*] (36) Tempered Readiness - Damage/Slow[*] (36) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (36) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow[*] (37) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Damage/Slow[/list]Level 28: Choking Cloud <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Endurance/Hold[*] (37) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)[*] (37) Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Damage(Psionic)[*] (39) Neuronic Shutdown - Endurance/Hold[*] (39) Essence of Curare - Endurance/Hold[*] (39) Paralytic - Endurance/Hold[/list]Level 30: Mutation <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 32: Fire Imps <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (40) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (40) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (40) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (42) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (42) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[/list]Level 35: Hasten <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (42) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (43) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 38: Super Speed <ul type="square">[*] (A) Celerity - +Stealth[/list]Level 41: Indomitable Will <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge[*] (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge[/list]Level 44: Mind Over Body <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance[*] (45) Aegis - Resistance[*] (45) Titanium Coating - Resistance[*] (45) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection[*] (46) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance[/list]Level 47: Smoke <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure[*] (48) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure[*] (48) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure[/list]Level 49: Recall Friend <ul type="square">[*] (A) Interrupt Reduction IO[*] (50) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 1: Containment
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]5.4% Max End[*]24% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]4% Enhancement(JumpSpeed)[*]4% Enhancement(Heal)[*]15% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]4% Enhancement(JumpHeight)[*]5% Enhancement(Held)[*]4% Enhancement(FlySpeed)[*]2% Enhancement(Stun)[*]4% Enhancement(RunSpeed)[*]5% FlySpeed[*]38.2 HP (3.75%) HitPoints[*]5% JumpHeight[*]5% JumpSpeed[*]Knockback (Mag -8)[*]Knockup (Mag -8)[*]MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%[*]MezResist(Sleep) 2.75%[*]MezResist(Terrorized) 4.4%[*]5.5% (0.09 End/sec) Recovery[*]6% (0.25 HP/sec) Regeneration[*]4.73% Resistance(Fire)[*]4.73% Resistance(Cold)[*]12.3% Resistance(Psionic)[*]25% RunSpeed[/list]
-Pogoman, Master of Kick-Fu
-Co-Leader and recruiting officer of the Virtue Honor Guard
- lvl 50 ma/sr scrapper
-Ace O' Diamonds lvl 50 fire/rad controller
and waaaay to many other alts to mention right now
Oh! I forgot to mention, In holding I have the following:
4 of the unbreakable constraints made, sovereign right:resist bonus, expedient reinforcement resist bonus, and rectified reticle perecption bonus.
-Pogoman, Master of Kick-Fu
-Co-Leader and recruiting officer of the Virtue Honor Guard
- lvl 50 ma/sr scrapper
-Ace O' Diamonds lvl 50 fire/rad controller
and waaaay to many other alts to mention right now
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Oh! I forgot to mention, In holding I have the following:
4 of the unbreakable constraints made, sovereign right:resist bonus, expedient reinforcement resist bonus, and rectified reticle perecption bonus.
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Sell the expedient reinforcement, the soverign right, and the rectified reticle..... Would having those really make the Fire Monkies that much less Squishie?
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Ok, upon request Im posting thecurrent/original build of my fire/rad..a little embarrassed as I can see some IMMEDIATE changes needed..Im sure youll point them out anyway .. here comes the fiasco!!
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/
[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]
ace now: Level 50 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)[*] (3) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge[*] (3) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (5) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Endurance/Hold[*] (5) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (7) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Hold/Range[/list]Level 1: Radiant Aura <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Golgi Exposure[*] (7) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge[*] (9) Doctored Wounds - Recharge[*] (9) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge[*] (11) Doctored Wounds - Heal[*] (11) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 2: Radiation Infection <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[*] (13) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[*] (13) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[/list]Level 4: Accelerate Metabolism <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (15) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (15) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (17) Endurance Modification IO[*] (17) Endurance Modification IO[*] (19) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod[/list]Level 6: Fire Cages <ul type="square">[*] (A) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold[*] (19) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize[*] (21) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge[*] (21) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge[*] (23) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge[/list]Level 8: Hover <ul type="square">[*] (A) Karma - Knockback Protection[/list]Level 10: Enervating Field <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[*] (23) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[*] (25) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure[/list]Level 12: Swift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO[/list]Level 14: Fly <ul type="square">[*] (A) Freebird - FlySpeed[*] (25) Soaring - FlySpeed[/list]Level 16: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Healing IO[*] (27) Doctored Wounds - Heal[*] (27) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance[/list]Level 18: Flashfire <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure[*] (46) HamiO:Peroxisome Exposure[*] (46) Rope A Dope - Endurance/Stun[*] (48) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (50) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge[*] (50) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Stun[/list]Level 20: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Modification IO[*] (29) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End[*] (29) Performance Shifter - EndMod[/list]Level 22: Lingering Radiation <ul type="square">[*] (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge[*] (31) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow[*] (31) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (31) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow[/list]Level 24: Cinders <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)[*] (33) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge[*] (33) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (33) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Endurance/Hold[*] (34) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (34) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Hold/Range[/list]Level 26: Hot Feet <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (34) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow[*] (36) Tempered Readiness - Damage/Slow[*] (36) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (36) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow[*] (37) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Damage/Slow[/list]Level 28: Choking Cloud <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Endurance/Hold[*] (37) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)[*] (37) Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Damage(Psionic)[*] (39) Neuronic Shutdown - Endurance/Hold[*] (39) Essence of Curare - Endurance/Hold[*] (39) Paralytic - Endurance/Hold[/list]Level 30: Mutation <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 32: Fire Imps <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (40) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (40) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (40) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (42) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (42) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[/list]Level 35: Hasten <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (42) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (43) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 38: Super Speed <ul type="square">[*] (A) Celerity - +Stealth[/list]Level 41: Indomitable Will <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge[*] (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge[/list]Level 44: Mind Over Body <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance[*] (45) Aegis - Resistance[*] (45) Titanium Coating - Resistance[*] (45) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection[*] (46) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance[/list]Level 47: Smoke <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure[*] (48) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure[*] (48) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure[/list]Level 49: Recall Friend <ul type="square">[*] (A) Interrupt Reduction IO[*] (50) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 1: Containment
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]5.4% Max End[*]24% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]4% Enhancement(JumpSpeed)[*]4% Enhancement(Heal)[*]15% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]4% Enhancement(JumpHeight)[*]5% Enhancement(Held)[*]4% Enhancement(FlySpeed)[*]2% Enhancement(Stun)[*]4% Enhancement(RunSpeed)[*]5% FlySpeed[*]38.2 HP (3.75%) HitPoints[*]5% JumpHeight[*]5% JumpSpeed[*]Knockback (Mag -8)[*]Knockup (Mag -8)[*]MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%[*]MezResist(Sleep) 2.75%[*]MezResist(Terrorized) 4.4%[*]5.5% (0.09 End/sec) Recovery[*]6% (0.25 HP/sec) Regeneration[*]4.73% Resistance(Fire)[*]4.73% Resistance(Cold)[*]12.3% Resistance(Psionic)[*]25% RunSpeed[/list]
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e/ *twitch* twitch* twitch*
Two slots in recall friend seems a bit much. Also- Recall Friend without Fallout? That's like a gun with no bullets!
Fly AND Superspeed seems like much, imho. You can get the Freebird +Steath proc for fly. With that and Smoke, you can sneak past most anything.
Also, EMP is a great Oh Shi-! power when those ambushes come along. That plus a few seconds of CC will lock down damn near anything and everything.
All imho. I've noticed Fire/Rad playstyles tend to vary wildly.
Stay Gold, Paragon. Stay Gold.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
Why do you have Membranes in Imps? Or Enzymes in EF? Or 2 Doctored Wounds in Health?
What are you trying to do with this build? Just a general sort of controller? Trying to do damage? Team player? Solo specialist? I really don't see any sort of concept you're striving for other than a bit of paranoia against Psi damage (really, a lot of unnecessary slotting to give you Psi resists & def).
There really are too many things to comment on, so try this first. Remove all your HOs except for the Enzymes in RI (which are perfect) and maybe the Nuc's where appropriate (like in Imps, but then redstribute the other 3 slots in there). Get some IO sets in there (esp in powers like AM) first and repost and I'll look at it again.
Oh, 8 points of -KB is sorta wasted. 4 will get you more than fine as a controller. There are very few mobs that do more than 4, but less than 8 points of KB. I'd drop the Steadfast and save yourself a slot & some inf.
An Offensive Guide to Ice Melee
Thats his pre-respec/new stuff build. Look a page or two back at the newish one, and Pogothulu peeps are finally looking and giving ideas hehe. There for awhile it was just me and you lol.
He was built with an 'all-purpose' state of mind way back when. m a 5-yr vet and he was my 2nd toon. SO 'back in the day' everyone slotted/over-slotted with hammis. But like I said a few things do need to be reslotted. you said most, if not all what I had noticed.
I know I can now do 2 builds (?) so maybe Ill do one solo-friendy, and one team friendly..expensive but might appease me from both ends in the longrun.
-Pogoman, Master of Kick-Fu
-Co-Leader and recruiting officer of the Virtue Honor Guard
- lvl 50 ma/sr scrapper
-Ace O' Diamonds lvl 50 fire/rad controller
and waaaay to many other alts to mention right now
Yeah, that's the best way to go, w/dual builds. I have an AV soloing build and a team friendly build that are very different (soloer has no Hotfeet or CC, Char & RoF slotted for damage, AM only 4-slotted, etc).
An Offensive Guide to Ice Melee
So maybe Ill just tweak the current build..lol no wonder Im not happy with it! as a team friendly build and use 'build 2' as solo build'
-Pogoman, Master of Kick-Fu
-Co-Leader and recruiting officer of the Virtue Honor Guard
- lvl 50 ma/sr scrapper
-Ace O' Diamonds lvl 50 fire/rad controller
and waaaay to many other alts to mention right now
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Yeah, that's the best way to go, w/dual builds. I have an AV soloing build and a team friendly build that are very different (soloer has no Hotfeet or CC, Char & RoF slotted for damage, AM only 4-slotted, etc).
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no Hotfeet or Chocking Cloud....... e/ *TWITCH TWITCH TWITCH*
Read the post again. Slowly, if you must. HF & CC do very little for you when soloing AV/GM/Pylons.
An Offensive Guide to Ice Melee
I read it.... I use both in my build and do well vs. AVs. I take an occasional face plant, but usually the stacked holds and standing behind a wall of Imps keeps me just out of reach for melee and in range for Hotfeet and Chocking cloud to do their thing. (I take a few Purple pills to to try and avoid the Alpha, and for when the purple triangles of doooooom turn on me). Hey to each their own if you have a defense build maybe you don't have the slots to run the auras, but I DID read what you said and have a different opinion is all.
If you're soloing w/no insps & no temps, you can't afford the end drain of those two powers, esp in GM fights that can last forever. My ST attack chain in that instance actually regens end back so that I can afford the odd EMP (esp against robots). If you're popping insps, you can run pretty much whatever you want.
An Offensive Guide to Ice Melee
Sure I use them. They drop so we can use them right? I don't stock up specificly I just use what drops mostly, and guess what? I use blues to. Are we doing a challenge saying no Inspires? Nope just playing normally. If you want me to run no inspires wow, that would be a shame since I get so many inspires from defeating stuff as fast as I do. The only thing I really change in an AV fight is I don't spam Fire Cages as much. So you have fun playing how you want dave_p my use of Emote/Twitch is because your style is waaaaay away from mine so if I offended you in anyway I apologize. Oh and I do use my temps to lol. I use everything I have gathered/bought/earned throughout the game.
I'm not telling you how to play your game. I'm telling you what one of *my* builds is specified for. Actually, I'm not telling *you* anything since my initial comments were directed at the OP and only responded to your histrionics. I'll stop that now.
An Offensive Guide to Ice Melee
Um..can we all just get along and stay focused to the topic. thanks.
-Pogoman, Master of Kick-Fu
-Co-Leader and recruiting officer of the Virtue Honor Guard
- lvl 50 ma/sr scrapper
-Ace O' Diamonds lvl 50 fire/rad controller
and waaaay to many other alts to mention right now
Lol this is the forums..... Is staying on topic and being nice allowed?
Yep it's all for taste. I find Char does it's job well enough for me to run in and choking cloud and fry stuff. Tomato... tomato.
I love your Guides by the way Local, but i'll keep my Fire/Rad how I have it now..... unless my horrible DOOM in the Storm Palace makes me decide to go for a Defense secondary Build just to redeem my awesomeness.