Best PvP primary...EM or ElecM or Spines


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What would be the best PvP primary: EM or ElecM or Spines
...mated to /WP for Arena and /Regen or /Nin for Zone
for Arena?
for SC Zone?
for RV Zone?


 

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I'm still a big fan of EM/ and Spines/... so I'll just not start it =/ since I'm really biased xP

but go with /WP, if you're trying to decided which secondary to go among the three of what you've mentioned.


 

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Any reasons for your bias on EM/ and Spines/ ? Btw I am a big fan of Spines as well. I am currently leveling Spines/Nin, L41 atm. It was a toon that had been parked forever, and just recently started to play again. For the new stalker that I plan to roll, I am definitely leaning towards /WP, but wasn't sure which route I should go on primary.

OT, playing around mids with EM/WP, I noticed that I can get close to soft capping ranged defense, but there was no way I can get even close to soft capping melee defense (@24.6%), except for using Shadow Meld. Is that how most ppl build it?


 

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Well in PVP your defense is gonna get nerfed by DR anyways....

Elec is the current FOTM because Thunderstrike, although it has only a 50% chance to crit from hide, it crits for double damage unlike total focus (and ET which doesn't crit for damage at all)


 

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Well in PVP your defense is gonna get nerfed by DR anyways....

Elec is the current FOTM because Thunderstrike, although it has only a 50% chance to crit from hide, it crits for double damage unlike total focus (and ET which doesn't crit for damage at all)

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It has a 100% crit and an additional 50% crit; the 100% crit pushes it past the damage of a Total Focus crit (290.22 base damage vs 253.61 for Total Focus), the 50% on top makes it really close to Assassin's Strike (389.28 for AS, 386.96 for TS).


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Oh you're right according to CoD:

* 96.74 Smashing damage If target is a player

* 96.74 Energy damage If target is a player

* 96.74 Smashing damage PvP only, If Hidden

* 96.74 Energy damage (50% chance) PvP only, If Hidden

Now I wish I didn't delete my Elec Stalker right before T-Strike...


 

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I don't PvP with my ElM/Nin (build's focused more on AoE damage for PvE), but I'd imagine that having an uninterruptible Assassin's Strike (that also throws in -endurance, a chance for stun, chance for -recovery, and chance for knockdown) is kindof nice.


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Thanks for the inputs, ElecM/WP is looking good. I might need to look into it in mids.


 

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For Elec/WP pvp build, what are the must powers to take?

Looking at my current build in Mids, I have the following:
Elec: Havoc Punch, AS, BU, Placate, Thunder Strike
WP: Hide, HPT, Reconstruction, Mind Over Body, IW, Heightened Senses
Pool: Fitness (Hurdle, Health, Stamina), Speed (Hasten, SS), Concealment (Stealth, Inv, Phase), Leaping (CJ, SJ)
Epic: Soul Mastery (Dark Blast, Shadow Meld)

I am not sure if I should take Lightning Rod (since I will be using it for pve as well). I would like to take Fast Healing and Strength of Will, but not sure if they are worth it over the other powers.

Is there some power that I missed that should have been taken? Although it can be built without Fitness as I have seen others do, but I prefer to have Stamina on this build.


 

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Keeping in mind I'm far from an expert, I'd drop HPT for SoW and make up the hp difference in set bonuses and accolades. It's very easy for a Stalker with accolades to cap hit points, my DM/Nin did it purely unintentionally.


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Any reasons for your bias on EM/ and Spines/ ?

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B/c those two were great when I played CoX actively(in PvP). Plus, the current PvP just didn't influence me much to get rid of that bias =/

That's all.