An INV/SS's Adventure of Solo'ing Lord Recluse

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Add Hasten into your build and you can solo him.

DPA != DPS which is usually what Tanker builds are missing (DPS ... DPA means little in practice since its not in context of an attack chain).

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You're right, DPA and DPS are two different things. However, they are intimately related. DPA does not factor in the recharge time of a power, it is simply the amount of damage in can produce over its animation time.

There are only two powers in SS that provide a DPA of over 100, Haymaker and KO Blow. Unless you can create a build that seamlessly chains those two powers with no downtime, SS will not be able to generate DPS much over 100. Every time an attack like Jab, Punch or Footstomp is used, you are generating DPS that is less than the AV's regen rate.

None of that takes into account the S/L resist that Lord Recluse (and most other AV's) has either.

Granted I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I just can't see SS being able to solo AV's effectively without using outside buffs. Maybe an SD/SS could do it, with fully saturated AAO.

I'd love to be proven wrong though, so hopefully someone will be able to post some pics of their solo tanker vs. AV exploits.

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Add Hasten into your build and you can solo him.

DPA != DPS which is usually what Tanker builds are missing (DPS ... DPA means little in practice since its not in context of an attack chain).

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You're right, DPA and DPS are two different things. However, they are intimately related. DPA does not factor in the recharge time of a power, it is simply the amount of damage in can produce over its animation time.

There are only two powers in SS that provide a DPA of over 100, Haymaker and KO Blow. Unless you can create a build that seamlessly chains those two powers with no downtime, SS will not be able to generate DPS much over 100. Every time an attack like Jab, Punch or Footstomp is used, you are generating DPS that is less than the AV's regen rate.

None of that takes into account the S/L resist that Lord Recluse (and most other AV's) has either.

Granted I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I just can't see SS being able to solo AV's effectively without using outside buffs. Maybe an SD/SS could do it, with fully saturated AAO.

I'd love to be proven wrong though, so hopefully someone will be able to post some pics of their solo tanker vs. AV exploits.

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Here are a few I was able to handle. No insps, no temps (but did use sands during rage crash). I've done a few more but I forgot my screenshotui was defalted to off. I need to redo them.

I took your exact thinking on KO Blow and Haymaker and used IOs to fill in the rest.

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Impressive. How long would you estimate it took you to take them down? Do you recall what attack chain you were running?

Thanks, was a fun project. It's been a few weeks since I've done it but here's what I remember (I'm at work so I don't have my notes).

Attack chain is
KO->Hay->Boxing->Jab->Hay->Box
It will varry slightly for about 1 cycle when hasten is down and I'll skip jab every now and then to use hasten or rage. I used dam procs in Boxing to make up some of the < 100 DPS the attack has. Jab is a craptastic filler in a 1 sec gap.

As for timing, I really don't remember, I want to say 20-25, but honesly, it could easly be 25-30. I'll have to see if I can find my notes and/or re-run one.

And like I said before, these are "generic resistance" AVs. Anything with added resistance, like Posi, BaB or Tryant, I can't hammer through (or progress is soooo slow I get bored first).

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Add Hasten into your build and you can solo him.

DPA != DPS which is usually what Tanker builds are missing (DPS ... DPA means little in practice since its not in context of an attack chain).

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You're right, DPA and DPS are two different things. However, they are intimately related. DPA does not factor in the recharge time of a power, it is simply the amount of damage in can produce over its animation time.

There are only two powers in SS that provide a DPA of over 100, Haymaker and KO Blow. Unless you can create a build that seamlessly chains those two powers with no downtime, SS will not be able to generate DPS much over 100. Every time an attack like Jab, Punch or Footstomp is used, you are generating DPS that is less than the AV's regen rate.

None of that takes into account the S/L resist that Lord Recluse (and most other AV's) has either.

Granted I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I just can't see SS being able to solo AV's effectively without using outside buffs. Maybe an SD/SS could do it, with fully saturated AAO.

I'd love to be proven wrong though, so hopefully someone will be able to post some pics of their solo tanker vs. AV exploits.

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Here are a few I was able to handle. No insps, no temps (but did use sands during rage crash). I've done a few more but I forgot my screenshotui was defalted to off. I need to redo them.

I took your exact thinking on KO Blow and Haymaker and used IOs to fill in the rest.

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That's cool. I'll have to give these 3 a try.

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Impressive. How long would you estimate it took you to take them down? Do you recall what attack chain you were running?

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Like I said .... DPA != DPS. Might have to great a little creative occasionally but definitely doable.