Another question comes to me now, I am wondering if theres a quick guide to procs anywhere. a way to look at all proc IO's available. and their details , like chances to go off, and how often its checked, how much dmg or w/e they do. This would be great for someone like me to catch up on.
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Another question comes to me now, I am wondering if theres a quick guide to procs anywhere. a way to look at all proc IO's available. and their details , like chances to go off, and how often its checked, how much dmg or w/e they do. This would be great for someone like me to catch up on.
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Whenever I get curious I just set the WW search options to show "all" (not for sale/bidding only), and type 'chance', and there they all are.
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hmm, thats actually a very simple, smart way of doing it. Shanks.
First off I'm not a pvp'er but
1) You must be within 3 lvls of the enhancements providing the set bonuses so outside of the DR part this would be true to my knowledge. Far as I know DR hits you based on the % bonuses much like ED but again I'm unfamiliar with PvP and DR.
2) This is untrue (except for Purple sets bonuses) in PvE. I would be very surprised to find PvP is different in that regard (and have never heard such). If the power is not active, outside of Purple set bonuses, I would not expect the set bonus associated with that power to work ... That's pretty much what makes Purples so nice for exemplar work.
3) Basically true ... again it's an exemplar situation if you are 31+. All the slots in a power (regardless of what level they were placed in the power) will all count for powers taken 30th level and lower, but the scaling for exemplar status starts to apply to all of them. Note that the set bonuses are not effected only the bonuses of the individual enhancements by exemplar scaling.
4) Purples may only be placed by a character at 50th lvl. A 47th lvl character despite "being within 3" of the enhancements level cannot use Purple sets. Those sets bonus apply regardless of what level the character is exemped. The individual purple enhancements AFAIK are scaled as per any enhancement value is by exemplar.
Hope that helps and someone more know how in PvP points out any differences between my PvE and PvP knowledge as needed.
Edit: for clarity, response to 3).
1) IO sets should be lvl 33 for Siren's Call
Yes, this is true. Level 33 max, since Siren's caps your level at 30. I think it's fine to go as low as 20-25 for your IOs, though. You're not losing that much in final power effectiveness from the slightly lower enhancement percentages.
2) IOs in inactive powers still grant set bonuses if they're lvl 33 or below
This is a tricky one. I believe this is correct. If you have a level 38 power slotted with level 29 IOs and walk into Siren's Call, you can't use the 38 power anymore. But the 29 IOs in that power will still grant the set bonus. That's my understanding of the matter.
However, a lot of people insist otherwise. I can't offer you proof that I'm right. Maybe someone else can.
3) Slots you add to powers you've chosen between 1-30, even if added AFTER 30, still work just fine.
Correct, you keep all your slots when you exemp/mal down. Only powers are locked out at lower levels.
4) Purple IO's and procs work at maximum lvl regardless, so best to use 50's for those.
Purples only drop at level 50. Their set bonuses apply no matter how far you exemp down - you can drop down to level 1 and still have a working purple set bonus.
Procs and global uniques will work if the power they're slotted in is available. So the level doesn't matter if that's all you care about. Use whatever's cheaper or easier to get. Usually that's a 50 proc, but not always.
If you want a set bonus from slotting that proc with others in the same set, though...then the level 30 rule still applies.
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This is a concept build for a level 50 electric melee / wp stalker build designed for siren's call. All feedback is appreciated.
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Level 50 Mutation Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
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Well just popped in and out of Siren's Call and Bloody Bay to compare some numbers in my Combat Attributes:
In Bloody Bay only my 2 Purple sets seemed to be adding to global recharge. Both are in powers not available at 25th (Atomic Blast and Oppressive Gloom). None of my other sets appeared to apply even if the powers were functional. This was expected as the majority of my sets consist of lvl 32 enhancements (even Neutron Bomb is 4 of 6 lvl 32 enhancements even though it's my lvl 35 choice). At level 50 without Hasten my global recharge bonus is 93.75% currently.
In Siren's Call my bonus was 65%:
20% from Purples, 25% from "Moderate Improved" (3 Doctored Wounds, 1 Adjusted Targeting and 1 Crushing Impact sets). 12.5% from "Large Improved" (2 Decimation sets), and oddly one 7.5% LotG def/inc global rech. I say oddly as I have 4 powers with the LotG inc global rech, 2 of which are in powers active in Siren's but none of which are lvl 33 or less (all 4 are in fact lvl 50 enhancements). DR or bug?
This leaves 3*7.5% LotG +/- the issue of DR or buggy
and 6.25 from a Positron set in Neutron Blast to account for my PvE lvl 50 global recharge of 93.75.
Both my Neutron Bomb and Irradiate have 4 of their sets at lvl 32 or less (Scirocco's and Posi respectively) The 5th enhancement of each set is the damage proc in those sets. The Scirocco's is 35 and the Posi is a 34.
The 5th bonus for those sets is AoE +def and +6.25% rech respectively. And both bonuses are gone when I zone into Siren's. However the +accuracy global from Neutron Bomb is gone as well, while one in Irradiate is still present which would lead to the conclusion the power needs to be active for a set bonus to apply. But see below ... no wonder it's confusing 
One further oddity ... the Combat Attributes indicates my Steadfast resist/+3% def is functional in Siren's. It's slotted in Dark Embrace. It's a lvl 30 IO in a lvl 44 power choice. Mid's indicates the +3% def is a set bonus so either Mids or the Combat Attributes is off or something else is at work.
OH Arrrgg .. the +accuracy global is the same, which indicates the set bonus is active in an inactive set (in Neutron Bomb) .... grrrr my BAD. But off to Ouro now see if I've been inhaling something odd about PvE also. Too much toggle and running back and forth.
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1) IO sets should be lvl 33 for Siren's Call
Yes, this is true. Level 33 max, since Siren's caps your level at 30. I think it's fine to go as low as 20-25 for your IOs, though. You're not losing that much in final power effectiveness from the slightly lower enhancement percentages.
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The PvP sets are an exception to this, the bonuses for those dont go away when exemping.
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http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Exempl...n_Enhancements
is a great page.
As this is about Sirens specifically, The Minor Bonus Threshold come into play, where you can slot up to level 25 Dual-Aspect IOs, level 43 Tri-Aspect IOs, and level 50 Quad-Aspect IOs and suffer no bonus reduction unless you Exemplar to level 20 or lower.
Purples, esepcially the single type on (like armageddon:damage) get hammered by the maximum bonuss cap when exemping (step 1 reduce to 41.5%, then scale down further)
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Yeah just noted I was off Cat *sigh* sheesh, personally this has been a chunk of my gripe with PvP from day 1 ... 2 sets of rules both of which seem to be in constant flux with exceptions to both.
Throw in bugs which should work but dont (like Forcefeedback: +recharge), and its enough to drive anyone batty.
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So, im new back to pvp, after along stint of not playing coh and im about to make my alt spec on my stalker specifically for Sirens Call. ALOT of questions came up, some answered, and some not. I wanted to verify the answers i've gotten, and hopefully get the unanswered questions... answered.
So, in no particular order, heres some of the facts I was given.
1) your IO's(sets) should be lvl 33 for sirens call, because it puts you to an effective lvl 30, and no powers above that lvl will work, you will get diminishing returns on the IO's and bonuses from any IO above lvl 33.
2) even though powers above lvl 30 are inactive, if you slot them all with lvl 33 io's the set bonuses will still apply. ( this REALLY throws a monkey wrench into build planning when your new, or new back. I can see why alot of new people dont pvp much. Or build good toons.
3) slots you add to powers you've chosen between 1-30, even if added AFTER 30, still work just fine. but remember, keep the IO's lvl 33, these might be hard to find. alot of people settle with 30's.
4) purple IO's and proc* IO's work at maximum lvl regardless, so best to use 50's for those.
I may have more questions, thoughts to add later. my brain is going mushy.
* A proc is a "chance to do" blah blah blah.....