Comments and Ratings


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I've heard a lot of fear regarding people who have written an extremely good arc, and they have 20 or so ratings with 5 stars total, and then all of a sudden they have 21 ratings and 4 stars.

Yes, this is a topic/whine about people who 0-star arcs and don't leave comments.

I think the rating system compliments the comment system, so why not require one in order to use the other? If someone gives me 1 star, I'd certainly want to know why. The system was implemented for feedback, and feedback is how we make changes to improve our arcs. Likewise, I want to know why someone gave me 5 stars, so I know what I am doing well.

I just published an arc tonight, and I had a team of 5 (myself included) for its maiden voyage, and after all is said and done about half an hour later, I have 5 ratings. So, 4 people on my team, and I asked, and all of them gave me 5 stars and commented. So why do I have 4 stars? Who gave that mysterious rating, and why was it under 3 stars? What didn't they like? I'll never know, because they never commented.

So yeah, my only real complaint about MA is the ability to 0-star an arc for the sake of it. I'd love it if commenting were required for rating.




"In a nutshell, if you have powers that aren't recharging, you're not trying hard enough." ~Enri

 

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I've heard a lot of fear regarding people who have written an extremely good arc, and they have 20 or so ratings with 5 stars total, and then all of a sudden they have 21 ratings and 4 stars.

Yes, this is a topic/whine about people who 0-star arcs and don't leave comments.

I think the rating system compliments the comment system, so why not require one in order to use the other? If someone gives me 1 star, I'd certainly want to know why. The system was implemented for feedback, and feedback is how we make changes to improve our arcs. Likewise, I want to know why someone gave me 5 stars, so I know what I am doing well.

I just published an arc tonight, and I had a team of 5 (myself included) for its maiden voyage, and after all is said and done about half an hour later, I have 5 ratings. So, 4 people on my team, and I asked, and all of them gave me 5 stars and commented. So why do I have 4 stars? Who gave that mysterious rating, and why was it under 3 stars? What didn't they like? I'll never know, because they never commented.

So yeah, my only real complaint about MA is the ability to 0-star an arc for the sake of it. I'd love it if commenting were required for rating.

[/ QUOTE ] Hell no. First, comments aren't anonymous. That means if I leave a comment the creator can give me [censored]. I don't want to hear it.

Second, the consumer(player) is more important than the content creator.

Rating systems are made for the consumer. Rottentomatoes.com doesn't give their ratings so the movie studios can make better movies, they give their ratings so we can have an idea if a movie is worth seeing or not.

Finally, if I don't owe you(genral) a damn thing. If I think your arc sucks and I give it one star, then either make a better arc or realize you can't please everybody.

Those of yall that think the people that play your arcs somehow owe you something have it backwards. I'm the consumer, I'm the player. Make content I enjoy or suffer the consequences.

Stuff like this is all about the consumer. They are the only ones that matter. You know why? It's simple really, you need me more than I need you. Write mediocre or bad stories and we go away. But there will always be another wannabe author with a story to tell.


 

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While you make a valid point, I am more concerned about "1-star bandits".

I think the rating system goes both ways. Both as feedback for the author and something to consider when you go to that arc to play it.

I think the rating system is being abused, players know it, the devs know it, and since we can't turn everyone who uses the system into mature people, we just have to find ways to lessen the problem.




"In a nutshell, if you have powers that aren't recharging, you're not trying hard enough." ~Enri

 

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Hell no. First, comments aren't anonymous. That means if I leave a comment the creator can give me [censored]. I don't want to hear it.

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This right here.


 

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While you make a valid point, I am more concerned about "1-star bandits".

I think the rating system goes both ways. Both as feedback for the author and something to consider when you go to that arc to play it.

I think the rating system is being abused, players know it, the devs know it, and since we can't turn everyone who uses the system into mature people, we just have to find ways to lessen the problem.

[/ QUOTE ] I agree. But I don't think your suggestion is the best solution. I like the idea of splitting the ratings into categories. Like story, difficulty, fun, etc. and the option to leave anonymous comments. I realize that still leaves the possibility of rating griefing, but I don't really know what could be done about that. But I still think it is an improvement.


 

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I'd actually been thinking of the option for your comment to be anonymous as I was browsing other sections of the forum. I think it's a brilliant idea.

A friend of mine expressed concern over players who will rate your arc low as "revenge" because you rated theirs low and they didn't take your comment as constructive criticism, even if it was. I think anonymous commenting will amend that.




"In a nutshell, if you have powers that aren't recharging, you're not trying hard enough." ~Enri

 

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I'd actually been thinking of the option for your comment to be anonymous as I was browsing other sections of the forum. I think it's a brilliant idea.

A friend of mine expressed concern over players who will rate your arc low as "revenge" because you rated theirs low and they didn't take your comment as constructive criticism, even if it was. I think anonymous commenting will amend that.

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On the flip side, I've gotten into discussions with story arc authors (and players) about the criticism - and praise, yes. If I'm on, I'll tend to at *least* say think you, even if they didn't like my arcs. I couldn't do that with an anonymous comment. (That ignores any possible technical issues, as well.)

Personally, I'm interested in "one extreme or the other" - nothing but thumbs up/down, or a multi-category rating system.


 

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If comments were made anonymous I would like it optional. That way I could potentially have a discussion if I wanted.