I saw something like this but have yet to nail it down (ran out of time). I had a 50 (me), another 50, and a 33ish in the arena. I was able to get drops (and influence) off the 50, but not off the 33 (who was sk'ed up to 50).
I was going to try to do some additional testing with different lvl toons sk'd up to 50, but use the influence reward as a guide. I'll keep any eye on this thread too.
(this is all arena testing)
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I did a little testing on PvP IO drops and found some behavior that I think is slightly broken. This was all testing in the Arena, so it may work differently in zones. Recipes always drop at the level of the target. Under the right conditions, they appear to drop around 1-2% of the time. If you aren't seeing that, read on.
1) I believe you can only get a PvP IO from a char close to or above your level. I got about 1500 kills by a level 50 on level 33 and level 10 targets, but no recipes. A level 12 char did get a recipe from a level 10 char, and a level 33 char did get a recipe from a level 50 char. I'm guessing it's the same cutoff as normal recipes, so you won't get one from a char 3 levels or more below you. Due to my sample size, I'm fairly certain this is true.
2) The 10 minute timer may start even if you don't get a recipe due to the reason above. I had about 1000 kills where a level 50 char was defeating a level 50 and 2 level 10 targets. The level 10 chars were defeated 2 to 3 times as often as the 50. I got a single recipe from the 50. I suspect the reward code path checks to see if I should get a PvP IO, starts the timer if yes, then checks to determine the level of the IO. In my 1000 kills I may have gotten 10 recipes that were denied due to level, but 100 minutes of "No recipe for joo!" that prevented me from getting anything from the level 50 defeats. I'm less certain about this due to the very small sample size of level 50 defeats.
Both of these may explain the low number of recipes people have reported. If observation 1 above applies to zones, I'd say it's a bug. Everyone is set to the same level. Granted there will still be significant differences due to the number of slots, the intent is that most everyone is around the same power level. Observation 2 could cause big problems in zone PvP if true. If you take a 50 to Siren's Call, there may be very few targets that can possibly drop a recipe for you. And there may be a lot of targets who can PREVENT you from getting a recipe for 10 minutes!
So can anyone confirm or deny these in zone PvP? Has anyone on a level 50 earned a PvP recipe below 48?
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Number one is correct, at least, I can confirm this. The code for these drops (and any PvP reward) is the same as the normal mob - the target must be within a certain level of you to get a chance at a recipe, and within a certain level of you to get the inf/prestige/salvage/inspiration drops.
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If you aren't getting inf/prestige from the kill, you won't get drops either.
so basically lv 46 farming lv 50s would get higher chance to get pvp IO drop lol?
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so basically lv 46 farming lv 50s would get higher chance to get pvp IO drop lol?
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In PvE a lv 46 never has a higher chance of drops if facing a lv 50
as that lv 50 would, just more influence/prestige per kill. Its why the
best way to farm recipes (well pre i14) is to have a lv 50 farming lv
47s and 48s, they are easier to kill and each on has the same chance
to drop a recipe as a lv 52 or 53 would. Note this is for drops I'm
talking not for money/xp as those you would want the lv 52 or 53 foes.
I did a little testing on PvP IO drops and found some behavior that I think is slightly broken. This was all testing in the Arena, so it may work differently in zones. Recipes always drop at the level of the target. Under the right conditions, they appear to drop around 1-2% of the time. If you aren't seeing that, read on.
1) I believe you can only get a PvP IO from a char close to or above your level. I got about 1500 kills by a level 50 on level 33 and level 10 targets, but no recipes. A level 12 char did get a recipe from a level 10 char, and a level 33 char did get a recipe from a level 50 char. I'm guessing it's the same cutoff as normal recipes, so you won't get one from a char 3 levels or more below you. Due to my sample size, I'm fairly certain this is true.
2) The 10 minute timer may start even if you don't get a recipe due to the reason above. I had about 1000 kills where a level 50 char was defeating a level 50 and 2 level 10 targets. The level 10 chars were defeated 2 to 3 times as often as the 50. I got a single recipe from the 50. I suspect the reward code path checks to see if I should get a PvP IO, starts the timer if yes, then checks to determine the level of the IO. In my 1000 kills I may have gotten 10 recipes that were denied due to level, but 100 minutes of "No recipe for joo!" that prevented me from getting anything from the level 50 defeats. I'm less certain about this due to the very small sample size of level 50 defeats.
Both of these may explain the low number of recipes people have reported. If observation 1 above applies to zones, I'd say it's a bug. Everyone is set to the same level. Granted there will still be significant differences due to the number of slots, the intent is that most everyone is around the same power level. Observation 2 could cause big problems in zone PvP if true. If you take a 50 to Siren's Call, there may be very few targets that can possibly drop a recipe for you. And there may be a lot of targets who can PREVENT you from getting a recipe for 10 minutes!
So can anyone confirm or deny these in zone PvP? Has anyone on a level 50 earned a PvP recipe below 48?
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
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