As far as we know, those three are the only members of the Outcasts.
3 people does not make a gang.
So offically, Frostfire could be considered the founder of the Outcast Gang by the PPD if he was the leader when the Outcast actually become a gang.
Of course, how he became the leader would be interesting.
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As far as we know, those three are the only members of the Outcasts.
3 people does not make a gang.
So offically, Frostfire could be considered the founder of the Outcast Gang by the PPD if he was the leader when the Outcast actually become a gang.
Of course, how he became the leader would be interesting.
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That thing--!
What was that thing?
My hands shaking so badly that I can barely write. I cant stop thinking about it. Ive never been so scared in all my life
!
I have to calm down. Statesman wouldnt let a little thing like a monster shake him up so badly.
Its all over. Im safe now. Im safe
Okay, Leo. Just relax. Relax!
Okay
let me begin at the beginning
I have to admit that right after Slide said what they wanted to do, I began having second thoughts. Statesman or Miss Liberty would never steal, not even from bad guys
and the Family are pretty nasty guys. I hear they can kill someone with their bare hands!
But
I couldnt see backing down
you dont back down in Steel Canyon if you want to go on living.
And I couldnt back down in front of a girl!
I did feel a lot better though when Slide said that we werent going to go in and try to fight our way through a warehouse full of Family. He said that the place theyd been scouting out was mostly deserted during the day. Wed be in and out before they ever knew we were there.
The warehouse was a pretty run down place. We bought some sodaswell, I bought emand we walked around the block to case the joint out. Just a bunch of kids hanging out, you know?
I dont
well, I dont have a lot of friends. I dont dare bring anyone homenever know when Pops going to be drunk out of his mindand no one seems comfortable hanging around a blue skinned kid. Helping Slide was the first time Id ever used my powers in public, but even most of my teachers seemed weirded out by me.
Except for Mrs. Primm, but I really didnt want to think about her right then. I knew exactly what shed think of me doing something like this.
Ive always been the odd kid out, but with Slide, Freeze, and Char I didnt feel so weird. They were like me. They were different. They were
Outcasts.
Slide kept muttering things about the warehouse as we circled it. See? Most of the time you can tell a place is a front for the Family. Theres always someone standing around with a hat and suit on. This place
Ive seen them go in and out, but they dont stay long. Look, theres one now.
The guy really wasnt all that much older than we were
he was maybe eighteen. His suit was too big for him, and he was trying to grow a mustache but it wasnt much more than a smear over his lips. He was carrying a sack from a nearby deli. There was a bulge in his jacket that just had to be some kind of gun
I tensed a bit. Maybe Slide was bulletproof, but I wasnt so lucky.
He doesnt look happy, Char said, playing with a tiny bit of fire on her palm. I swear it almost seemed
alive. It moved around like a tiny little monkey or something.
Slide and I have been watching for the last week, Deep Freeze said, glaring at me. Theres this guy and another one. They go in three times a dayearly in the morning, around noon, and in the early evening. Theyre always bringing food with them, but not a lot.
Are they keeping guard? I asked.
Dont know. They sure dont stay long. Landslide cracked his knuckles. Hell be out in about ten minutes looking like theres a devil after him.
And were going to go in? Why?
If youre too scared we can go on without you, Frostless. Deep Freeze laughed harshly.
Dont be such a jerk, Freeze. Fires not done anything to you but youve been riding him ever since we met him. Char tossed the fire off her hand. It scampered around her feet before it finally vanished in a puff of smoke.
We dont need him, Freeze said stubbornly. Hes just a punk. Hes too scared to be of any use.
Fire blossomed around my fist. You really want me to show you what Im made of, Freeze?
You dont scare me, Frostie! Freeze summoned his ice sword again.
Maybe thats because youre too stupid to be scared. I cant make that sword of his. At least not yet. But I was pretty sure that I was stronger than he was. Slide wouldnt have wanted me along if he didnt think I would be useful.
Shut up you two! Slide ordered. Look! Hes leaving!
The kid in the too-big suit ran out of the warehouse. He fumbled with the keys to lock the door.
And thats when we heard the monster roar.
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The kid spat out a curse, dropped the keys and cut out like his house was on fire.
Landslide turned to us. Nows our chance!
Char looked doubtful. Deep Freeze looked nervous. Both of them looked at me, so Im the one who said, You sure about this, Slide? You heard that thing.
Its some kind of dog, Slide said dismissively. The Family probably has it guarding their stuff. It might cause problems for nats, but not mutants like us. Well just go right in and take what we want.
I wasnt too sure of that, but I wasnt going to back down. Freeze was just waiting for me to prove myself a coward, and I couldnt let Char go into that warehouse without me not a girl! Okay then. Lets do this before that kid comes back with company.
The door was still open, so we ran over to it. No one else made a move towards the keys, so I pocketed them and followed the others inside.
It stinks in here, Char muttered, setting one of her hands ablaze to light our way. You sure theres something here worth taking, Slide?
The Family wouldnt waste time on this place if there werent, Landslide assured her. Money. Drugs. Maybe guns. There has to be something here worth stealing.
Stealing. I didnt like that word. But at least the Family were criminals. Is it really a crime if you steal from bad people?
The warehouse was almost totally dark. The windows were either boarded up or painted over. Here and there sunlight shone through cracks in the walls or broken panes.
And Char was right. It stank.
I dont see anything, she said, her eyes darting back to my face as though she were looking for reassurance. Maybe we should just go, Slide.
No! Theres something here! I know it!
There! Deep Freeze pointed with his ice sword. You see that? Looks like some kind of equipment.
Now that Freeze had pointed it out, I could see what he was looking it. It was some kind of cart, actuallysort of like what you see in the hospitals. Whatever was on it seemed to be glowing with a soft blue light.
Jackpot! Slide ran towards the cart.
Before he got there, something rose up from behind the cart and lashed out at him with a mighty fist.
Slide grunted in pain as the blow hit him in the stomach and folded like a house of cards.
The shadowy thing rose up to its full height and roared at us. Me kill you!
Slide! Char cried, throwing a fireball at the [i[thing[/i].
Freeze charged at it and slashed at it with his howling ice sword.
The blade broke into three pieces against its arm.
Freeze screeched in fear and backed away from the thing.
The monster roared and beat his chest like a gorilla, and it was then that I noticed the heavy chains that were attached to his wrists. He was bald, and I swear that he had horns!
Landslide stumbled to his feet, wheezing. He tried to form a stone hammer but it grumbled in his hands. Hurts! he gasped.
The green monster laughed. Me beat you! Me beat you good! You no match for me! Me am the strongest one there is! Me tear you apart!
If not for those chains, I was willing to bet that he could have done it, too.
What are you? I asked him, staring at him in the flickering flames of Chars burning hand. He was wearing clothing, but they were little more than rags now so I couldnt tell what they had been originally. Still, if he wore clothes and could talk
Who are you? Are you a mutant?
Me am no mutant! Me have body by Superdyne! He beat his chest again. Me name? Me had a name once, but me dont remember it. They call me They call me He frowned and paused as if the effort of talking caused him too much pain. He growled at me.
What? I asked him. What do they call you?
Grendel!
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I'm guessing he resemble more of a Supatroll than a regular troll, right?
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Landslide gasped. Kill that thing!
Deep Freeze formed another ice sword. Char raised her fiery hands again.
No! I shouted, shoving Chars hands aside so that the blast missed the thing that called itself Grendel. We cant!
Why not? Landslide was retching, but he managed to climb back to his feet. Hes a monster!
And to the nats so are we!
I dont know why I said that. We were in danger every second we stayed near that thing. The smart thing to do would be to get out of dodgeor kill it where it stood.
But I couldnt do that. Heroes dont kill.
The Grendel-thing stared at me with eyes that seemed to glow in the darkness. You no hurt Grendel? You Grendels friend?
I dont want to be your enemy. We didnt come here to hurt you, Grendel. We came
I paused. We came to save you!
What? Freeze gasped.
Char elbowed him in the stomach.
We heard you cry out! We came in to help! We were just
surprised by you.
Grendel stared at me for a long moment. Free me and Grendel be your friend forever.
How can we free you? I studied the chain. It was thick, but as strong as it looked I couldnt see how it could hold something as powerful as Grendel.
And then I saw them: glowing symbols on the chains.
Magic, Grendel grunted. Family talk to Robe Men. They give chain to hold Grendel. Grendel make the Robe Men pay someday. Grendel will dig them out and rip their throats out.
Is there a key, Grendel?
A key? Grendel blinked.
Something to unlock the chains. You know, a key?
A key? Grendel knows what a key is! Grendel not stupid! He blinked again. Grendel smart
used to be smarter. Grendel told them he would make new drug
make Family a lot of money
Grendel made himself strong! Grendel made himself
He growled. Grendel not like to think! It hurt!
The key, Grendel. Where is the key? Do they keep it here or did the guy who ran have it?
Safe, Grendel answered after another blink. Key in safe with money.
Money? Landslide gasped. How much money?
Lot of money, Grendel grunted. Grendel made Family big money. They wouldnt give it to him. So he took Dyne
they found out and made him take more Dyne
Grendel told them it was too much but they wouldnt stop
they made Grendel
they made me
they made
He roared and shook his chains. Grendel will make them all pay!
The safe, Grendel. Wheres the safe? I didnt know if it was a good idea or not to free him, but I didnt want to leave him chained up like a dog. He was a person
or at least had used to be. He wasnt a mutant, but he was more like us than the nats were.
And besides, a hero would never leave someone chained up who didnt deserve it.
Safe there, Grendel pointed to a darkened office.
All right then. Well go get the key for you, Landslide said, heading to the safe.
Grendel wait. And so will girl.
With unbelievable speed for something so huge, Grendel lashed out and grabbed Char. One of his massive hands gripped her neck. Grendel get key. You get girl.
Char! Landslide formed a stone hammer. Give her back!
Grendel grunted.
Grendel, let her go. I didnt shout. I was as calm as ice.
Grendel looked at me again. Grendel no fool. You take money and leave Grendel chained. Grendel give you girl back safe if you free Grendel.
Grendel, I promise that Ill free you, but I wont do that while you hold Char like that. You said you would be my friend. Friends dont hurt friends. Let her go.
Grendel stared at me.
Lets go get the moneyI mean, the key! Freeze muttered.
Landslide paused.
Grendel, please. Shes my friend. Let her go.
Grendel said nothing for a moment. You promise to free Grendel?
I promise. Frostfire promises.
Then Grendel let girl go. He did.
Char ran into my arms and hugged me tightly. She was sobbing.
I turned to Landslide and Deep Freeze. All right. To the office, then.
We walked into the office. It wasnt hard at all to find the safe. It was big and clunky, and looked like something out of an old movie.
I got this. Landslide swung his mighty hammer
it dented the safe, but shattered with the impact.
My turn, Freeze boasted. He swung his ice sword again
and again it broke into pieces.
Youre batting a thousand tonight, Freeze. I couldnt resist laughing at him. Maybe I shouldnt have, but that guy had been giving me the cold shoulder since I met him.
Ill try. Char broke free from me, and began throwing bolts of fire at the safe, but it didnt so much as get warm.
You wanna give it a try, Frostfire? Landslide asked me.
He cant do anything that Char or I cant, Freeze said with a frosty gaze at me. Hes probably weaker than both of us.
I am not weak! I grabbed the front of the safe.
Cold.
Hot.
Cold.
Hot.
Cold
Hot!
The front of the safe literally melted in my grasp
And promptly set the floor on fire.
You idiot! Freeze said.
Char, get the money! Weve got to get out of here! Landslide ordered.
The key! We cant go without the key!
Forget the key! You want to be burned alive?! Landslide and Deep Freeze began running for the door.
Immune to the flames, Char managed to grab a double handful of cash. Come on, Frostfire! We have to go!
No! Grendelll be burned alive! We have to get the key!
Char gave me a look, and then turned and ran for the door.
The fire couldnt burn me, but I could feel the heat. My clothes caught on fire. The air began to scorch my lungs.
But I had to save Grendel! It was my fault!
My hands closed around something metallic and cold. Even in the middle of that roaring fire, it was cool to the touch.
Magic. It had to be magic. It had to be the key!
I grabbed it and turned and ran back to Grendel.
Grendel was roaring and frantically tugging on the chains, trying to free himself as the flames came ever closer to him.
Hang on! Ive got the key! The lock! Wheres the lock?!
Grendel stopped struggling. You came to help Grendel?
I promised! The lock! Wheres the lock?
Grendel pointed.
I shoved the key into the lock and turned it.
The glowing symbols on the chains dimmed and they fell off Grendels wrists.
Free! Grendel free!
We have to get out!I was coughing now. The smoke was so thick. I couldnt breathe. I couldnt see.
Grendel free! he bellowed, smashing his fist into the wall.
And thats when the ceiling came crashing down around us
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Journal Entry 017
Frost? Frostfire, wake up. Cmon. Dont scare us like this.
Him okay. Me save him.
Youre the one who put him in danger, you big jerk! It was Chars voice. Blazing with anger, I could feel the heat from her without opening my eyes. He could have left you to burn and you brought the building down on top of him!
Grendel growled. Grendel not like fire girl. Grendel will smash her if she doesnt shut her mouth.
Try it, you big
I decided at that point that I had better open my eyes. Im okay!
Told you, Grendel rumbled. Frostfire Grendels friend. Grendel not hurt his friends. He looked at me. Grendel go now. Grendel have things to do.
What are you going to do? I asked him, curious.
Grendel have big plans. Grendel is going to make Family pay. And Robe Men. Grendel is going to be big man. Grendel remember Frostfire. Grendel owe Frostfire. Grendel go now.
Goodbye, I said.
Goodbye. Char had slipped an arm around my waist. I didnt know if she thought I needed the support or not, but it felt awfully nice
Landslide and Deep Freeze didnt say anything to Grendel as the big guy left. They were both looking at me. Landslide looked sad, but Deep Freeze
Deep Freeze was scowling.
Wed better get out of here before the cops and firemen get here, Landslide said. You coming, Frost?
Char slipped her hand into mine. Come on. You can see our place.
All right. I had time. Pop wouldnt be home from work yet. I could check out the Outcasts place and be home before he got back
specially if he took time to stop at the bar after.
Char reached into her pocket with her free hand and gave the cash to Landslide. She looked at him expectantly.
Slide counted the bills and handed me a wad of cash. Your share, Frost.
Char coughed.
You earned it, he added.
Deep Freeze scowled again.
Lets go, Landslide took off running.
Freeze glared at me.
Go on, Freeze, Char said. Well be right behind you.
He scowled, but turned and ran.
I moved to follow, but Char stopped me.
I looked at her.
You saved my life, Frost. If not for you, Im sure that thing would have killed me!
I wouldnt have let him hurt you, I promised her.
I know. She slipped her arms around my neck. I just wanted to say thanks. She pulled my mouth down to hers and kissed me. Thanks.
It was a good kiss. It was the best kiss ever.
And then we heard the sirens.
Wed better go, Char said reluctantly.
Right. I did my best not to look like that was the first kiss Id ever had. Lets go.
I took her hand, and we ran.
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Journal Entry 019
Pop lost his job today.
I knew it was coming. Hed started drinking again. I was just glad that I had managed to use the money I got from Slide to pay the rent for the next three months. Pop was too drunk to care where I got the money
Its not fair!
Every time we start to get ahead
every time I think that Pop is finally going to straighten up he falls off the wagon and we wind up right back where we started. Hell, if I hadnt had that money, wed be out on the streets right now!
Why do I have to pay the rent on our dump of an apartment? Why do I have to look out for him? Hes my father! Hes supposed to take care of me!
No wonder Mom left
Dad used his last pay check to buy a couple bottles of booze and locked himself in his bedroom. I heard him saying that he should just clear out
that things would be better for him if he didnt have a freak[ to look out for
He says that every time he gets drunk.
I knew better than to stick around when he starts talking like that. He starts breaking things when he gets that drunk. Breaking things
like me.
I wanted to hang out with Char
I mean, the Outcasts
but I stopped by Mighty Mart first to see if I could pick up that Miss Liberty Poster that Mr. Lee had promised me.
Mr. Lees a great guy. Hes let me buy sandwiches and soda on credit so Id have something to eat when Pop drinks up the grocery money. Hes given me after school jobs so I could buy Freedom Phalanx merchandise and magazines from him. Hes even given me stuff. For free!
As soon as I walked into Mighty Mart, I knew there was trouble.
Get out! Out! Out of my store before I call the Policeman on you!
For answer, I heard a shelf being knocked over.
If it had been anyone else, I would have turned around and walked out. Its not my job to get my nose into other peoples problems. Sure, I wanted to be a hero like Statesman, but I wasnt exactly up to fighting for truth and justice just yet
But it was Mr. Lee--!
Get out of my store! Mr. Lee said, and I could hear the fear in his voice. Id never heard him scared before. I didnt like.
Shut up, you old nat!
I froze. I knew that voice.
We just want some beer, old man. No reason to get all crazy on us. Well even pay for it.
I knew that voice too.
Shut up, Slide. We dont owe this nat anything! Were the Outcasts! Well take what we want!
I felt an icy anger take fire within me. I walked into sight. Landslide. Deep Freeze. Fancy meeting you here.
Frost! Landslide was carrying a six pack. Deep Freeze had grabbed Mr. Lee by the collar of his shirt. Hes not a particularly tall kid for his age, but Mr. Lee is a very small man.
Leonard! Mr. Lee said. Get out of here! Call the police! Run!
Let him go, Freeze. I did not recognize my own voice. It was a cold, hard thing.
Leonard? Freeze snickered. What are you going to do if I dont, Leonard? He raised his hand and summoned his howling sword of ice.
Freeze, thats enough. Landslide set the six pack down. Its Frostfire! Hes an Outcast! We dont fight Outcasts!
Hes no Outcast! Hes not one of us!
Char doesnt think so. I said it knowing that it would make Freeze mad.
Freeze dropped Mr. Lee and charged me with his ice sword.
I caught it with a blazing right hand and seized his wrist with my left. Think youre cold, Freeze? This is cold!
Freeze howled in pain as his arm began to be covered in a thick layer of ice.
Frost! Let him go! Slide ripped a massive hammer out of the floor. Dont make me hurt you, man!
I stared into Landslides eyes for a long time. Get him out of here, Slide. If he ever comes back into this store Ill freeze him solid!
I let go of Freezes wrist.
Moaning, he let Landslide take his shoulder and lead him out of the store. He glared back at me, and I saw both hatred and fear in his eyes.
And somehow
that pleased me.
Leonard? Mr. Lee gasped.
Mr. Lee? Are you all right?
I am fine, Leonard. Youyoure
Im a mutant. I can control fire and ice. I call myself Frostfire.
Leonard
The fear in Mr. Lees eyes I didnt like at all.
Mr. Lee?
Get out, Leonard. Get out of my store and dont come back.
I flinched. Because Im a mutant?
No, Leonard. Mr. Lee rose up to his full height, and I realized for the first time that he had to look up to look me in the eyes. Because youre one of them. One of the bad boys.
Im not! I helped you! I saved you! Im a hero! A hero!
I saw what you did, Leonard. I saw the look in your eyes. You like it. You liked his fear. His pain. You liked making him afraid. You like hurting. He shook his head. You are going to bring much pain and suffering into the world.
I stared into his eyes
his fearful eyes
and I turned to go. I saved you, Mr. Lee. If I hadnt been here, he might have killed you! This isnt fair! Its not right!
Go, Leonard. Go before I call the police.
I walked to the door. I saved you. Im a hero. Im going to be a real hero. Youll see, Mr. Lee. Youll all see!
I tossed an ice bolt at the six pack that Slide had left behind. That could have been you, Mr. Lee.
And who would have done that to me, Leonard? The boy or you?
I left without answering.
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There's a mission you're given from Crimson where you learn that Malta plans to incriminate a young hero to cause him to lose his license and so would up in Malta's clutches. I wanted to tie that into Frostfire's backstory, revealing that Leonard didn't ACTUALLY freeze the shopkeeper (that would have been the work of Deep Freeze who had sold out the Outcasts to Malta). The fire that destroyed the shop would have arisen from their battle.
Landslide would have died in the clutches of Malta with Frostfire promising to always look after his little brother Keystone.
Char would also have died at the hands of Deep Freeze, but her fire imps (when she learned to make them) would have become Frostfire's.
And it probably goes without saying that Mr. Lee would have been the shopkeeper who perished.
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We had a long, arduous conversation about this in one of our Global Channels. It stemmed from DeviousMe's RP Thread that involves the Axis Amerika Earth.
I was positing that, since the backstory dealing with Reichsman is a basic "He's an evil Super Nazi" shtick and that we don't really know what the story of Axis Amerika is, we can't really be sure that the story told us is what really happened. Especially when you consider that a large part of the game is all about deconstructing the long-held notions about what is going on in the world.
The two main points that came to mind involved the Rikti-Lost connection and the uncovering of Crey's "Evil Megacorporation" practices. For the former, we learn the Omega Level Clearance secret about the Rikti, and the latter, we unveil to the world the sinister truth while most of the world still lives in blissful ignorance.
I don't mean to derail, so I'm getting back to the main point. We, the players, don't know the lives or motivations of most of the rogues. For instance, did Atta really kill Grendel and usurp the Trolls, or did Grendel sacrifice himself during "The Hollowing" trying to collapse the caverns so as to destroy a previous Cavern of Transcendence? I know what the "Seeker of Monsters" badge says, but that's a random hill of dirt (plus, there are plenty of Trolls that still shout "Grendel lives!").
Not much attention is paid to the motivations of our enemies. The true story is easily just as complex and sympathetic as any of ours.
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