City of Heroes: Live Forum Archive

Frost's I6 Ice Control, Empathy, Kinetics Guide V2

Airman_America

By Airman_America,
Posted on: 2006-03-07 13:55 in Player Guides

 

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You sure about that? The Dominator version has -Fly. All Dom/Controller ST and AoE Immobs should have -Fly (with Fire just now being updated on Test).

Phantom Rose: Ill / Kin / Psi
Soleau: Ice / Icy / Ice / Core: Ice / Fire / Pyre / Wind / Eclipse / Flare / Corona
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Solo Space

 

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You sure about that? The Dominator version has -Fly. All Dom/Controller ST and AoE Immobs should have -Fly (with Fire just now being updated on Test).

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I just tried it this morning (on test) after reading in the dominator issues thread that it didn't have it. Tried it in TV vs some sky raider sky skiffs that were hanging out in the air. Chilblain dropped them. Frostbite didn't, even with multiple applications.

It may be a bug relating to the fire cages thing. Mind giving it a try and seeing if your result matches up with that? Because I could have swore that it did have -fly, but now seems to not have it.

I'll have to do some more extensive testing, I think... Would be nice to know if someone who actually tried it on test can confirm my result though.

 

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Ya, only have an Ice Dominator, but both Skiffs and Freedom Corps Flying things dropped with Frostbite. I double checked it on Test just a few mins before I posted.

Phantom Rose: Ill / Kin / Psi
Soleau: Ice / Icy / Ice / Core: Ice / Fire / Pyre / Wind / Eclipse / Flare / Corona
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Solo Space

 

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So now I'm wondering why my test didn't work and yours did...and why people in the dominator issues thread have confirmed that frostbite doesn't have -fly.

 

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So now I'm wondering why my test didn't work and yours did...and why people in the dominator issues thread have confirmed that frostbite doesn't have -fly.

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can you try a different group?

The Kronos has a hold n00b!

 

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I can...I didn't have time to check it before (Had to go to work)...but I'll be doing some tests tonight/later today on my lunch

 

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I call bug, Frost. Was in a CoT mission the other day on my 37 Ice/Kin and was dropping Air Thorns with Frostbite. Maybe it's a chance to -Fly and you just have horrible luck? Either case, it's odd, indeed.

 

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Ok, what it's looking like now is that various mobs have different resistances to the -fly or something, since gSOLO was only able to -fly some goldbrickers after two applications.

That might be where the weird test resutls are coming in. I'm curious now as to how this all works...so I'm going to be checking things out for myself when I get a chance later today.

 

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Have you tested this yet???

I'm pretty sure I read some where there some mobs do have resistance to -FLY. I will have to do some forum-fu searching to find it and hopefully get back to you in a timely manner.

Blazara Aura LVL 50 Fire/Psi Dom (with 125% recharge)
Flameboxer Aura LVL 50 SS/Fire Brute
Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
Darq Widow Fortune LVL 50 Fortunata (200% rech/Night Widow 192.5% rech)--thanks issue 19!

 

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Hey, I did do some testing. It looks like it does have -fly still but it's inconsitant. Sometimes it works on groups, sometimes it doesn't. Even groups of the same things. IIRC, a pattern was noticed by other people testing saying that if it was used as the first attack on the group it wouldn't -fly, but if it was used on an already aggroed group it'll do -fly.

It doesn't look like it has anything to do with -fly resistance.

 

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ANy chance for an update? I would be very interested to see what you suggest for IOs and sets. I see several possibilties for Ice Control that are very interesting.