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Amauros' Guide to SR Scrappers (and stalkers) 3.5

5th_Player

By 5th_Player,
Posted on: 2006-02-03 06:57 in Player Guides

 

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You don't suggest slotting Def into Elude, but my builder shows elude having 70% defense at level 50 with 3 Def slots. Given the PvP aspects of slotting Acc into attacks and whatnot, wouldn't having those Defense SO's counteract someone with ToHit buffs and 2-3 acc's in those attacks?

It just seems to me that slotting elude with defense (if you can spare it) would be a phenomenal idea to counteract all those buffs/Acc SO's/DefDebuffs/ect...

 

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That is tagged for my next major revision to this guide. You also need to remember that the 45% Def from Elude is usually on top of the 30% you get from your passives and toggles. So that is 75% Def before slotting Elude, 100-ish Def after slotting.

For dedicated PVPers recommended slotting is 3x Rech, 3x Def. Anyone else would be 3x Rech and any extra slots you feel like throwing at the power, in PVE the slots are (mostly) overkill.

 

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Great guide.

Just one little note: Quickness does currently increase fly speed and will take fly enhancers. One SO doesn't really increase your flight speed by a noticable amount but my scrapper, Kid Buzzard, currently has a fly enhancer in his (anxiously awaiting his wings, heh.)

 

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Great guide.

Just one little note: Quickness does currently increase fly speed and will take fly enhancers. One SO doesn't really increase your flight speed by a noticable amount but my scrapper, Kid Buzzard, currently has a fly enhancer in his (anxiously awaiting his wings, heh.)

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Uh...no it doesn't. It only takes running enhancers only. I know it because I'm looking at it on my stalker as I type this. :-)


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Hrm, when I get home from work tonight I'll log into my SR Stalker, if Stalker quickness is not taking fly enhancements then that is a bug.

 

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Has anyone tried to get Elude near perma with IO recharge bonuses?

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PM PowerFist

I have little doubt that he's pushing for max recharge to get as close as possible. Probably has it done by now.

Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Has anyone tried to get Elude near perma with IO recharge bonuses?

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The game-limit cap is 500% recharge, which means the absolute best you could ever do, with twenty kinetics speed boosting you, is 200 seconds of recharge time on Elude, which is three minutes up, 20 seconds down. Literally impossible to do better than that, no matter what.

As a practical matter, the best you can do by yourself is perma-hasten (+0.7), 6-slot elude with level 50 IOs (+1.1816), quickness (+0.2), 5 LoTG IOs (5 x +0.075), and 5 set recharge bonuses like those in Red Fortune (5 x +0.05). That would be a total of 3.7 recharge on Elude, and a net recharge time of 270 seconds. That's about 180 up, 90 down.

You can do *a little* better than that by squeezing a little more recharge bonuses out of the IO sets, but not a lot: there's a basic limit to the number of recharge bonuses you can get given that they tend to be tier 5 bonuses and therefore require a lot of slots in the right powers. As indicated above, Powerfist has made such a build (and he's tossed in a base empowerment speed buff to get down to about 70 seconds of downtime).

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