North Star's Guide to the Ice-Cold Corrupter
Oh, for sleet I believe the actual Brawl index is 1.68. I had an error with my math before. The -res debuff adds to this.
Blizzard seems more like 20.16 ... I think I cut the damage in half (missing the fact that there were both lethal and cold damage being applied.)
Does anyone happen to know what the actual defense and resistance values are for Ice Shield (unslotted)?
I have to agree with Truth here. I notice teammates getting hurt a LOT more the moment my ice shield has dropped from them.
I don't agree that the holds are lacking... Freeze ray and Bitter Freeze Ray are two 'must-haves' in a set that has no proper heals, for damage mitigation, whether you solo or play in a group. No; they're not [censored] effective as Ice Dom holds, but when slotted even a little (1acc, 1RchrgRed, 1HoldDur) with SOs, you can keep any even-con perma-held. If you want to 6-slot it, which isn't a terrible idea, you could keep oranges perma-held too.
It's a very strange corrupter set, hence it being the source of much scrutiny and debate.
Rolled a Cold corr last night. I took Ice Shield at 4. I will take Snow Storm eventually, but Cold tends to be end heavy and I think I can have an easier time working around end issues by using the shield vs. Snow Storm. I have a Storm defender and a /storm troller so I know exactly what I'm missing. Looking to grab AS at 6 as a prereq to Fly and a way to help the attack chain out since Frost Breath isn't worth picking up IMO. Plus, slow + knockdown will be nice. I'll respec into Hover later on.
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Maybe I'm crazy, but isn't telling a cold domination corruptor to skip a shield like telling a bubbler not to take a bubble? Ludicrous.....
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No shields for me either. I wanna play a damager/debuffer, not a shielder. My slows and holds will keep you safe, don't you worry.
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I can't help but laugh at that post.
Join the teams I'm on and try saying your holds and slows keep the team safe because you'll be the first to faceplant then everyone else on my team proceeds to faceplant.
But hey, if slows/holds keep all your teams safe, then good for you but I always see a huge difference with shields. On the teams I do regularly with my VG, slows/holds wont save you.
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Well I'm with the otehr guy-I have to laugh at yoour post. Can the shileds help? Sure? Can you live without em-oh yeah. For two powers , a lot of slots, and a ton of end and time being a buffbot, you can provide some decent defense to a few things (S/L, en, neg) and some modest resists to fire/cold. I can provide greater protection than that just by applying snowstorm at the start of a battle (that -40% ish damage from any any all types of damage). Thats really just the base "slow" though the reality is - the way they try running away mitigates it further I think. Once you at the slipping and slows of sleet and ice storm to that, I've found that teams with me on it can handle large groups of purps fast, and often I can mitigate damage myself just with the medicine pool! WHo needs shields/heals when your not taking much damage. If you do have even a modest healer on top of that (dark MM. or any "healing corr" you can pretty much plow large groups of +4s fast and without much risk. Those groups are often unmanageable for healers as the "alpha" alone often can kill your " tanks" (be they brutes or a lotta pets).
If you have enough slots and powers to spare for the shields without sacrificing your better powers-then enjoy! I love my build without and have never really seen the needs.
A little warning about Snow Storm....
This is a great power but a dangerous one. You've GOT to keep an eye on your anchor. Even slowed they can and will wander into another spawn. And guess who the additional spawns are going to be gunning for? (Hint: not the Brute!) This gets even more important against the Sky Raiders. Do NOT drop this power on a Porter! And when you get into teleporting Rikti.... well... hopefully your eye is well practiced by this point.
P.S. Yeah, Bluzzard does some massive damage but I think Ignite in Assault Rifle probably does more (over less area). The storm defender's Lightning Storm might do even more than both of them, though it will normally get distributed around several targets.
Nice Guide.
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Addtionally its nice for some extra blizzard and Ice storm damage
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Aim has no effect on Ice Storm, Sleet or Blizzard. They are "pet" powers and unaffected by any buffs, including leadership, inspirations, 'forge', etc.
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As of i7, "Rain" type powers ARE affected by Aim, Build Up, Inspirations, Kinetics, etc, making it MUCH more desirable.
I didn't see any slots for heat loss did you not add to this one or is it the one you think you may have added an additional slot to snow storm. And i was just curious as to why you put 2 additional slots into hover if you have fly im kinda new to CoV. so far i like the build except the whole ice shield cause i do not want to play some groups buff bot.
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Ice Shield, Glacial Shield
...They have typed defenses which don't stack with the most common stalker positional defense sets (reflexes, ninjitsu)...
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet in this thread, but as of I7 the /Cold shields gained Positional Defences.
Ice Shield is now DEF(Smash, Lethal, Melee) and RES(Fire, Cold).
Glacial Shield is now DEF(Energy, Negative, Ranged, AoE).
This means that between them, they have gone from defence against only smash/lethal/energy/negative attacks, to providing defence against nearly every attack in the game (bar a few odd ones that have no positional component - like Mind/).
[i]Edit - Nevermind - I only just spotted there is an updated I7 version of this guide that includes this information. This older version is still the one linked to from the Corruptor Guide to Guides though. If you have read this one, you should now go and read the newer version here.
I dunno if someone pointed this out yet but I'm too lazy to look. Sheilds have been fixed: they now stack appropriatly as of I7 I believe. Therefore, good investment.
Phantom Rose: Ill / Kin / Psi
Soleau: Ice / Icy / Ice / Core: Ice / Fire / Pyre / Wind / Eclipse / Flare / Corona
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Solo Space
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Brawl Index for Ice-Cold Powers:
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Ice Bolt: 2.78
Ice Blast: 4.56
Frost Breath: 3.89
Ice Storm: 7.34
Bitter Ice Blast: 6.33
Bitter Freeze Ray: 3.67
Blizzard: 10.08
Sleet: 1.34 (1.68 if you add in the impact of its -res effect)
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Great guide, but everyone do yourself a favor...If you have splitting headache DON'T try to figure out the numbers (it just makes it worse)
Not taking Glacial Shield in CoV is totally stupid if you're a team player. There is a TONS and I mean TONS of negative energy and energy attacks at the higher levels being flung from every direction. You pretty much just gimped your team against a Circle Of Thorns encounter for sure. I would rather have 20%+ more defense for my team against those effects than without. If you're a solo toon and don't care about grouping at all don't take any of the shields. But don't listen to the main guy when he says "Glacial Shield is useless respec now" crap.
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Well, if Slows and Holds can't save your team, then nothing will. . . . Except running away.
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I really think Ice Shield is very effective. I think its so effective that anything else you would take would be a real step down in total power (I assume you have already taken all the 'must have' stuff.). You can certainly do a build without them... but you aren't going to add as much to a group.
That may not be a problem... you may mostly solo. If you always solo; yeah, its a wasted power. On the other hand, its a really good power if you group at all (PvP or PvE!)
(Its not like you are going to not take Snow Storm or Freeze Ray and take Ice Shield instead. If you think Bitter Freeze ray is better at mitigating damage for a team: you seriously need to reevaluate things. Here's a Hint: its not even close. BFR is an ok soloing power... it isn't adding anything to a group.)
I really think you should try it before you knock it. I think Ice Shield is the most under-rated power in the set; I was very pleased with how well it works.
(Glacial Shield really is a dog of a power and seriously needs help. Status protection, endurance drain protection, something. Maybe a lot of somethings. Don't mistake this as me advocating that power... pretty much ANYTHING else will be more effective.)