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I do think that ice is probably getting the shaft, but I haven't been able to see any other tanks work on test yet, so I can't compair (since I only have an ice, lev 50) However, that being said, I can still tank solo missions on invic and not even really be concerned about it. I can tank 10-12 +2 minions as is with my I4 build (on test) and I haven't even respeced into a couple of tweaks I think will make him a bit better. So until I see INV/STONE/FIRE tanks tanking 30-40 +2s in I5 I'm not going to complain. It may be that we are all just going to have to redefine what a tank can tank.

I guess those of you who have various tank builds would know better however of how bad ice is compaired to other builds. I have never thought of my ice tank as gimped (not when I could stand around 50 even minions and take a nap)

I will be the first to yell however if I continue to see other tank types herd large groups in I5

Thanks for the thread.

I never thought of ice tanks as being the low man on the tank list. I really am not concerned about the AV "issue" that people point out as I have always been able to use a combo of hibernate and hoarfrost in order to compensate. (I also run tough). I think the ice set as is it great and don't feel gimped at all as it stands. That being said...

I think that I5 hurts ice tanks most of all. We are a defense set only. When you take away the defense ice tanks pretty much have nothing.

I also agree with all the people that have said it might be a good idea to work on the AI of the mobs instead of massive rework of powers.

Why not make mobs that can't stack? Why not make mobs that don't chase you forever?

I'm still not clear what you are trying to "fix" with I5. Please just consider that as an ice tank defense is our bread and butter, take that away and we are no longer "tanks" but just guys that have a lot of hit points. Why not just give everyone access to every power in all sets, give them all the same defense, the same hit points and call it done? The ATs are really starting to not mean much of anything.

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