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Originally Posted by __Divine__

get wrecked barrier

Originally Posted by PumBumbler

I've seen the word 'lie' used more than once in a couple of threads.

Just remember that saying something that is false is not always a lie. It will be untrue, but it can only be a lie when the teller knows it to be untrue. It is not lying if you believe what you are saying is true, even if the statement itself is false.

Originally Posted by JChaos

... What?

Protip: As money AND supply vanish, inflation skyrockets.

As money remains excessive, and supply remains unchanged, inflation skyrockets.

As supply increases, and money remains constant... inflation falls. Considerably.

Economics 101. It's one of the main reasons why I want to see salvage merchants in the game, no matter what they charged, they'd still be cheaper than the players until the players learn to lower their prices. (But that's a rant for another forum and topic, I think.)

Originally Posted by Xanatos

PVP Recipe's have a higher turnover, higher supply, and lower cost than PVP enhancements.

Originally Posted by Red_X2

2-3 drops a night... thats pretty funny. i've tried that myself and i'm lucky if i get 1 a night. there have been times i've gone 3-4 nights without getting a single drop. i'm at the point where i hardly do it anymore since it seems every time i do get one it's some crap like glads net or fury of the glad. i make more money at the market and farming tickets then trying to farm pvp ios. you probably need something like 3-4 accounts to do it effectively. the drop rate sucks.

Originally Posted by Leandro

People leave that running overnight and make 2-3 PVP IOs a night. Not huge returns, sure, but still worth doing for the chance at a bucketload of inf. I personally know three people who do it.

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Originally Posted by BigSung

Ahh, you got a point there...forgot about elec secondary. After the change to elec, I thought about rolling one, but never got around to it. By the way, does that apply to Brutes as well or just for tanks?

Originally Posted by Castle

I don't. 2 hours 8v8 means nothing to me. 26 kills vs. 11 kills means more, but still is not enough information to make any sort of judgment on the validity of the drop rate.

Originally Posted by Castle

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind folks that this system is purposefully difficult to farm. Your BEST chance of getting a PVP IO drop is to have 10+ players fighting one another; either in zones or in arenas.

The only way I'd be comfortable increasing the drop rates is if we could make then Bind on Pickup, tech which we don't currently have.

Originally Posted by RoboBug

do shielders just farm AE villain side? i farm council and warriors on my shielder hero side but other than Nems, what choices are there redside?

Originally Posted by __Divine__

It is but i wanted to try hibernate for awhile. You can ask mage ...the psi resist is very very noticeable from temp invuln, PFF also help's against taunt quite a bit, and i'm able to pop greens when i phase to help against the delayed dmg, as in hibernate you pop hibernate and pray that there is not to much delayed dmg to kill you. Only drawback is ...is no tactics for perception. To each his own i guess.

Originally Posted by __Divine__

It's ok because i don't have PFF anymore....so is that a deal???

Originally Posted by brophog02

The thread was 'Are Prices Dropping', and to conclude the thread actually established anything remotely near to the statements attributed to it is borderline asinine.

A thread that establishes such statements requires concrete evidence, tests, and figures. That thread was a very sparse collection of observations with biased individuals waving magic wands in an attempt to "convince" someone that these things are true.

They may or may not be true statements, but that is yet to be established in that, or any thread on this board.

If statements such as "all PVPIO prices started to drop" were indeed true then threads such as this one which complain of low or no supply and capped market prices would not need to exist. Then again, if people treated the entire collection of PVPIOs as a source rather than making generalist statements about a very sparse subset threads like this also would not need to exist. The truth is many people are deliberately twisting ideas to fit their own needs, and are being facilitated by those that believe statements do not need to be challenged. People just pass one possibly erroneous statement after another, and people buy into it without the need or desire to question it.

Thankfully, the devs at least try to avoid the magic wand solutions the players would have them enact. The ramifications of some of the short sided, greed inspired suggestions in this and other threads is simply mind boggling.

Originally Posted by LuxunS

For some reason this post reminds me of the anti-gank code.

Originally Posted by Slax

Which Divine is the fake one again?

Originally Posted by Ghost_Ripper

Scrapper: Fire, Elec, BS

Stalker: Elec, Spines, DM (faster animations than EM, and the non-crit portion is less resisted), EM, etc.

Blaster: Psy, Sonic, Fire, Rad

Corr: Sonic, Rad, Fire...

Tanks: SS, EM. (Fire is too AOE centric).

Brutes: SS, EM, Fire (not so AoE centric.)

Originally Posted by Ghost_Ripper

Lol...probably so. He does say SR is good or at least serviceable in PvP. Not sure how, I did PM him about how, and haven't received a response back. So the jury is still out on that.

Originally Posted by Ghost_Ripper

I did disclaimer my post by saying I am no Guru and if I am MISSING something please let me know, which ya'll did. I was missing the Crit Factor; however, it still doesn't explain why some people posted EM as better than Elec in some posts I looked at. Now they might just be newbs like me, or perfer EM, I don't know, so I'll leave that in the "Who knows why, but they are wrong" category. Thanks for clearing things up for me, MAC and Black and MrLiberty. I have no problem being told I am wrong, I only have a problem when someone assumes something about my character without asking me? Maybe it has something to do with my years in the service, but never assume something about another individual unless you have proof to support assumption, or you've asked the individual. Now, my coutner to that is, have I ever assumed something, you bet. Do I try not to, absolutely, but we are all human and make mistakes.

Originally Posted by Slax

Not my point.

Yes I agree that the drop rate should be increased as these wouldn't really impact PvE much at all if they fell from the sky like rain. Not that I'd care if it did.