Wrong_Number

2010 Player's Choice Best Heroic and Lowbie Arc
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  1. Arcs Rendered Currently Unplayable as of 4/26/11

    One Million Eyes #71933 @minimalist
    Captain Skylark Shadowfancy and the Tomorrownaughts of Today #337333 @The Cheshire Cat
    Speeding Through Time #51728 @Geekboy
    The Doctor Returns #1152 @FredrikSvanberg
    Evolve Or Die #411446 @FredrikSvanberg
    Until the End of the World #431270 @Eva Destruction

    Arcs Playable, but Modified Until the 4/26/11 Patch is Fixed

    The Golden Age Secret of the Paragon Society #344596 @Wrong Number
    Matchstick Women #3369 @Bubbawheat
    Damage Limitation #447945 @AP (Title is replaced with InvalidStringReplacement upon loading, some customs replaced with mechmen)
    Against The WickerWork Khan! #346904 @Clave Dark 5
    Day Job Hell: A Villain's First Day Job #322480 @Clave Dark 5
  2. I'll enter this month, but will wait until the official start of the contest before submitting my arc. Hi CD5 and Fred


    WN
  3. Arcs Rendered Currently Unplayable as of 4/26/11

    One Million Eyes #71933 @minimalist
    Captain Skylark Shadowfancy and the Tomorrownaughts of Today #337333 @The Cheshire Cat
    Speeding Through Time #51728 @Geekboy
    The Doctor Returns #1152 @FredrikSvanberg
    Evolve Or Die #411446 @FredrikSvanberg

    Arcs Playable, but Modified Until the 4/26/11 Patch is Fixed

    The Golden Age Secret of the Paragon Society #344596 @Wrong Number
    Matchstick Women #3369 @Bubbawheat
    Damage Limitation #447945 @AP (Title is replaced with InvalidStringReplacement upon loading, some customs replaced with mechmen)
    Against The WickerWork Khan! #346904 @Clave Dark 5
    Day Job Hell: A Villain's First Day Job #322480 @Clave Dark 5
    The Hammer and Sickle Cross (formerly "Hammer and Sickle of Paragon City"" #351727) @Tubbius
  4. Blitzkrieg (along with the already reported 5th Column)


    WN
  5. The arc is once again playable. I had to:

    - Change 5th Column to Firth Column

    - Change Blitzkrieg to Blitz-krieg


    I plan on reversing these changes once everything is fixed on the Devs end.

    NOTE - Please let me know if you find anything I missed. Thanks!


    WN
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan View Post
    AS for slamming the door on my way out...I never thought I'd be so ambivalent about CoH as i am at present. The Incarnates stuff was intruiging, but it seems to involve lots of high-level endgame raiding, which isn't my thing really. I'd be quite happy to stay fooling around in the AE, but this copyright filter thing is ludicrous. It feels like my tastes aren't being catered for in the game. So what's the point of paying for it every month?
    You perfectly summed up how I've been feeling and it makes me very sad.


    WN
  7. Arcs Rendered Currently Unplayable as of 4/26/11

    Ms. Manners Task Force #416951 @Wrong Number
    One Million Eyes #71933 @minimalist
    Captain Skylark Shadowfancy and the Tomorrownaughts of Today #337333 @The Cheshire Cat
    Speeding Through Time #51728 @Geekboy


    Arcs Playable, but Modified Until the 4/26/11 Patch is Fixed

    The Golden Age Secret of the Paragon Society #344596 @Wrong Number
    Trademark Infringement #2220 @Wrong Number
    Matchstick Women #3369 @Bubbawheat
    Damage Limitation #447945 @AP (Title is replaced with InvalidStringReplacement upon loading, some customs replaced with mechmen)
    Against The WickerWork Khan! #346904 @Clave Dark 5
    Day Job Hell: A Villain's First Day Job #322480 @Clave Dark 5
    The Hammer and Sickle Cross (formerly "Hammer and Sickle of Paragon City"" #351727)
  8. CD5 and Tubby, I get you point.

    How about this:


    Arcs Rendered Currently Unplayable as of 4/26/11

    The Golden Age Secret of the Paragon Society #344596 @Wrong Number
    Ms. Manners Task Force #416951 @Wrong Number


    Arcs Playable, but Modified Until the 4/26/11 Patch is Fixed

    A Hero in Need...is a Friend Indeed! #375018 @Wrong Number
    Trademark Infringement #2220 @Wrong Number
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Cheshire_Cat View Post
    If it's any consolation, it's impossible to play, and thus rate, an arc that's currently affected by this, so nobody should be getting any downvotes because of it..
    It's kinda sad that the "silver lining" is that at least people can't play our arcs. Oh course, the the arcs that people altered to get them playable still can get slammed. I'm waiting for a comment on my use of "Marcus Cole" as a contact rather than Statesman for example.


    WN
  10. AS CD5 correctly pointed this was an idea put forth in another thread to inform players of broken arcs. All of us in the MA community are aware that it is a known issue. Also, I'm the one who asked the question during the Upstream.

    Also, please let's please keep this to a list of unplayable arcs and not a discussion of what work arounds were done to make your arc playable. I have a couple of arcs I changed also to make them playable, but left them off the list to keep it simple. Thanks.

    WN


    Arcs Rendered Currently Unplayable as of 4/26/11

    The Golden Age Secret of the Paragon Society #344596 @Wrong Number
    Ms. Manners Task Force #416951 @Wrong Number
  11. This thread is intended to be a list of the arcs that were broken due to the Copyright/Profane filter added to the game on 4/26/11. Please follow the format below and add your broken arcs to the bottom of the list. Be sure to copy the entire text starting with the heading so that people can just check the last post.

    WN


    Arcs Rendered Currently Unplayable as of 4/26/11

    The Golden Age Secret of the Paragon Society #344596 @Wrong Number
    Ms. Manners Task Force #416951 @Wrong Number
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bleak_Wanderer View Post
    DeathSentry -

    That depends entirely on how vocal the community is in terms of establishing AE as a priority.
    Bleak,

    This has been ongoing for over a year. Just read back through this board and you will see a full on effort to get many facets of MA attention. Besides the countless threads of suggestions and detail analysis with solutions for how to fix the various problems there are repeated efforts to promote MA. Examples include the MA Super Team, Arrowrose's Excellent Arcs thread, PW's Contact Tree, the numerous excellent review threads, Contests, the annual Player's Choice Awards (which btw has STILL not even been stickyed) to name just a few. These have clearly been completely ignored.

    Case and point: during the video chat I asked about us getting more arc slots, something that has been loudly requested for at least a year. The answer (and you can go back and watch this yourself) was along the lines of "Hmm...interesting idea, we will look into it". In other words, it was the first they had heard of it! Want another? Someone asked about more DC's and HoF. The answer was that they are "in the process of banking some so they can be released over time in a steady fashion". Sounds good except for the fact that the last non-contest DC was given in January of 2010 and none have been given from the three different (they restart it every six months or so) "Make a Recommendation for DC".

    The frustration has been building for a very long time and it's not due to lack of people caring or trying to improve MA.

    WN
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5 View Post
    If that's not a straight line, I don't know what is. Pardon me for hoping that angry players might try and keep a cool head; reading and understanding what's already been said in this thread (by the devs and others) would go a long way towards helping with that.
    Helping how? I don't think understanding what has transpired is the problem. Several have posted articulate, well thought out, intelligent thoughts on the mishandling of this "patch" and MA in general. Most notably Venture, PW and Bleak Wanderer. I'm pretty sure most everyone is beyond the "give them a break, they are doing the best they can" phase. The word, to me, that best summarizes this last kick in the teeth to MA was used by PW...Soul-crushing. That pretty much sums up how I feel.

    Had this been a critical emergency patch to fix some game breaking issue it would have been a different story. As it stands, many arcs in MA are crippled because of the addition of software that was totally unneeded in the first place. Additionally, as I've said from the beginning, when this issue was discovered the "patch" should have been IMMEDIATELY rolled back until it could have been implemented properly. That's not even accounting for the fact that it should have went through proper testing BEFORE it was implemented and the community should have been aware of it as well as the future attempted fixes. For many of us, I think this was the final nail in MA's coffin. As much as it hurts and we hate to admit it, one of the best features in the game is on it's deathbed and the family has given the OK to pull the cord. Soul-crushing.


    WN
  14. Nice write up and explanation as to the pointlessness of filtering MA.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bleak_Wanderer View Post
    ...
    If I spend two hours crafting an arc, and then find out that the key signature character of that arc (the final villain, for example) can't have the fantastic name I thought up for him because it's a character name in some obscure comic somewhere (like the obscure Marvel villain, Positron, for example).... then my entire arc might be scrapped - all that time and effort wasted.
    Now imagine you have over 50 hours of work on an arc, it's so well received that it's rated 5 stars since the day it was published with over 300 plays, it's praised in several reviews, is publicly recommended for a dev's choice over a dozen times and wins the 2010 Player's Choice Award for "Best Heroic Arc". You one day find out it's suddenly unplayable because it used the word "Paragon" in it's title and in the name of the group the arc is about. Also the main villains, the 5th Column, a dev made villain group's name can't be used. Then imagine that this continues to go on for weeks (at least so far) with the arc sitting there unplayable and loosing out on the normal in flux of plays it gets on reactivation weekends. Frustrating does not begin to describe it.


    WN
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wrong_Number View Post
    I was a computer systems manager for many years and later the supervisor of a large group people with that job. If you have inadequately tested a patch or upgrade and it creates problems for your user base you roll back the patch. Once you have determined the issue and taken steps to ensure the smooth implementation of the software/patch THEN you reapply it. You DO NOT burden your users with your mistakes.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zamuel View Post
    Stealth fixes are good in the fact that they are fixes but the not knowing is problematic. While I appreciate you letting us know, there really should have been patch notes keeping people updated if there was a fix Tuesday.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BackFire View Post
    It didn't have these issues before the last issue update, why not roll the filter back to the previous, functional, release and work on the new filter on TEST? Which is what TEST is for! We'd be more than happy to give you feedback there.
    The above stuff is all perfectly reasonable to expect. It's perplexing as to why these updates/fixes are not being handle properly and why the MA community is kept in the dark or is not being utilized as a resource.


    WN
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tubbius View Post
    "Paragon" is still a problem for my arcs with the word Paragon in the title and my character The Paragon Bomb, an homage to over-the-top 80s pro-wrestling.

    I also have various villain NPCs who have the villain group "5th Column" who are being flagged.

    Same here, "Paragon" is NOT fixed and still is flagged as a "bad" word. Also "5th Column" is still an issue.


    Also, may I second Zamuel's suggestion that in the future when a patch is applied that is intended to affect MA a dev posts something here to make the community aware? We could have told you in a few minutes that the patch didn't fix the things it was supposed to fix.


    WN
  17. I submitted a ticket just to help log the problem with the arc. The response was that I should go through and change all the "offending" words. Thanks so much....very helpful.


    WN
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dragon_Surge View Post
    [B]How many weeks has this been broken now..? In seven years I do not know that I have ever been as disappointed in this game as I am over this..
    Ditto x 1000

    Quote:
    I still, however, refuse to repair/rename any of the ones broken as a result of "Paragon" where Paragon City is an intrinsic and integral part of the arc..
    Same here. Renaming "The Golden Age Secret of the Paragon Society" is not going to happen. I'm thrilled though with the reactivation weekend since it normally generates new plays....oh wait, the arc is STILL BROKEN.

    WN
  19. I can't connect to the loggin server.


    WN
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5 View Post
    Everybody right ow has Incarnate stiff on their plate, which doesn't leave room for much else. Whatever new shiny comes along will be crowding the old, whether it be power set proliferation or whatever other favorite pet topic you have (unless of course your fave pet is whatever the new shiny is, which is how a solid majority f people in the game are).

    There is always going to be something new/shiny either in development or just launched and in need of attention. If that's the reason for no attention being given to MA, then please stop patronizing us and just say what we all already know: MA is not on anyone's plate. Sixteen months since the last non-contest DC. Getting close to two years since the last DC given by someone other than Dr. Aeon! How long does it take to post in the forums once in a while? Too busy to comment on critical issues to MA like the lack of slots or the problems with HoF. Too busy for that? Too busy to not run an annual event? Sorry, time to face the facts as distasteful as they may be.


    WN
  21. Last Non-Contest DC - 16 months ago

    Number of DCs granted from the THREE "Recommend for DC" threads - 0

    Number of "Annual" Dev run MA Awards - 1 (2009)

    I can go on, but what's the point?


    WN
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zamuel View Post
    ...is it?
    It sure should be if the installation is planned/done correctly. Rolling the TM/profane filter back to where it was before is not going to negatively affect anyone.


    WN
  23. I'm so disgusted with this and the total lack of dev interest in MA that I've not logged on since I found out about the current inability to play several of my arcs for over a week now including the 2010 Best Hero Arc PC Winner that sits high up on page 3.


    I was a computer systems manager for many years and later the supervisor of a large group people with that job. If you have inadequately tested a patch or upgrade and it creates problems for your user base you roll back the patch. Once you have determined the issue and taken steps to ensure the smooth implementation of the software/patch THEN you reapply it. You DO NOT burden your users with your mistakes. System management 101.


    WN
  24. I started down that spider hole (wash my mouth out with soap, I can't stop cursing!) and ended up just fixing the ones that were simple/reversible post fix.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PoliceWoman View Post
    I really don't want to change this name, so left the arc invalid for now.
    Exactly how I felt with "The Golden Age Secret of the BLEEP Society".


    WN