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Thanks for the replies all, here is my build up to 8 as requested:

Archetype: Brute
Primary Powers - Ranged : Super Strength
Secondary Powers - Support : Fiery Aura

01 : Fire Shield damres(01) damres(5)
01 : Punch dam(01) dam(3) acc(7)
02 : Haymaker dam(02) dam(3) acc(5)
04 : Blazing Aura dam(04) dam(7)
06 : Healing Flames recred(06)
08 : Knockout Blow recred(08)

Slotting might be SLIGHTLY off, I didn't go in game to check, have to get ready for work.

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ouch! same type brute here but i took jab and it works wonders for fury...i think that is your problem. in fact rest of powers i have the same powers and i solo on viscious, had to tone that down when i was facing a psi elite boss but other then that been soling since 1-10 on viscious...i do use insprs for bosses but that is normal imho.

on the brute side where i posted this there is apparently some effort reading this in non-IE setting so ill try and get another version up asap so its reabable for all.

ok here are the secondaries numbers and side effects as always let me know if my numbers are off. Enjoy!
<font class="small">Code:[/color]<hr /><pre> Dark Armor
Power - - - - LvL P-Type Res Def AttkTypes Act Old E/s New E/s Rcg Special
Dark Embrace 1 Toggle 22.5 n/a S/L/NE/Tx 2 0.39 0.3393 4
Death Shroud 2 Toggle .5556 BI/tick NegEnergy 2 0.71 0.6177 4 PBoA dmg Aura
Murky Cloud 4 Toggle 22.5/15 n/a Elem/Ene - 2 0.4 0.348 4
Obsidian Shield 10 Toggle 37.5 n/a Psi+status 2 0.5 0.435 4 Res:Slp/Hold/Disornt
Dark Regen 16 Click PBAoE.5556BI Dmg,NegEn - 2 49 42.63 30 Per SO+10% hp +30%hp per foe
Cloak of Darkns 20 Toggle n/a 3.25* All - - 2 0.39 0.3393 20 Stealth
Cloak of Fear 28 Toggle PBAoE Foe Fear, -10Acc 2 0.75 0.6525 4 Base acc power 20%***
Oppressive Glm 35 Toggle PBAoE Foe disorient - 1 0.12 0.1044 8 Self -hp
Soul Transfer 38 Click Dmg BI ?, Self rez w/ invuln - 1 n/a n/a 300 More hp per foe
*Note:Stealth power get supressed on def.
Running all toggles EP/s 3.26 new:2.8362
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Resists#s S/L Energy Neg - - Ene Elemnts Toxic Psi
Base - 22.5 15 37.5 22.5 22.5 37.5 0
w/3SO's 35.325 23.55 58.875 35.325 35.325 58.875 0
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Fiery Aura
Power - - - - LvL P-Type Res - AttkTypes Act End N. End Rcg Special
Fire Shield 1 Toggle 22.5/7.5 - - SL+Fi/Cold 2 0.38 0.3306 2 Resisorient
Blazing Aura 2 Toggle PBAoE .6111BI Fire - 2 0.75 0.6525 4
Healing Flames 4 Click 15 - Dur:45s Toxic - 3 15 13.05 60 Selfheal
Temp Prot 10 Passive 12.5/5.625 Fire/Cold n/a n/a n/a n/a
Consume 16 Click PBAoE 1.11BI Fire - 2 2 1.74 180 Self+End per foe
Plasma Shield 20 Toggle 22.5/15 n/a Energy/Fire 3 0.41 0.3567 2 "Res:Hold,Sleep"
Burn* 28 Click PBAoE .555*10ticks Fire - 3 7 6.09 10 "Res:Immob,Foe-Fear"
Fiery Embrace 35 Click Self +Dmg/Acc(?)Dur:30s - 1 11.5 10.005 180 Boost Prime power dmg
Rise o' Phoenix 38 Click PBAoE 4.027BI Fire+KB - 5 n/a n/a 300 Self Rez w/ invuln
*Note:Burn has severe fear run effect on foes
Total of EP/s for toggles=1.54 new 1.3398
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Resists # on set SL Energy Fire Cold Toxic Psi 0
Base w/o TP 22.5 22.5 37.5 7.5 15 0 0
3 Slot SO's w/o TP 35.325 35.325 58.875 11.775 15* 0 0
*Note few slot healing flames for resists 0
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Invulnerability
Power LvL P-Type Res - Def AttkTyp - Act Old E/s New Rcg Special
Resist PhysDmg 1 Passive 5.625 n/a S/L - n/a n/a n/a n/a
Termp Invuln 2 Toggle 22.5 n/a S/L - 3 0.38 0.3306 3
Dull Pain - - - 4 - - Click SelfHeal+40%HP,Dur120s - 1 15 13.05 160
Resist Elements 10 Passive 5.625 n/a Fire/cold/Tox n/a n/a n/a n/a
Unyielding 16 Toggle 7.5/3.75//all-5% All but Psi 2 0.4 0.348 10 "Res:KB,Sleep,Disorient,hold"
Resist Energies 20 Passive 5.625 n/a Energy/Neg n/a n/a
Invicibility 28 Toggle n/a M+1.125/R+0.5625 All - Aoe 3 0.28 0.2436 10 Per foe attking in melee range
Tough Hide 35 Passive n/a 3.75 all but Psi n/a n/a n/a n/a
Unstoppable 38 Click 52.5 Dur 180s all but Psi 3 7.5 6.525 1000* Self +End Rec
Cont'd Self Res:Sleep, Hold, Immob, Disorient At completion - all end/-80% hp
Total of EP/s for toggles =1.06 0.9222
*Note:Semi-perma-US:Semi-permahasten+3 slot rechargeSO's leaves 230s downtime or so
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Resist #'s SL Energy Element Toxic Psi
Base w/o US 31.875 13.125 13.125 13.125 0
3Slot TI/UY 50.044 17.4 17.4 17.4 0
3Slot all w/oUS 70.1 20.61 20.61 20.61 0
Base + US(base) 84.375 65.625 65.625 65.625 0
US+3slot UY 84.375 69.9 69.9 69.9 0
Base +US 1slotd 94.875 76.125 76.125 76.125 0
Base +US 2slotd 105.375 86.625 86.625 86.625 0
Base +US 3slotd 114.3 95.55 95.55 95.55 0
Just US-3 slotd 82.425 82.425 82.425 82.425 0

Def #'s - - - - Melee Range Psi
Base w/1slotTH 1.3 0 -5
3Slot Inv 1-TH 2.72 1.36 -5
Above with 5 13.6 6.8 -5
- w/10 27.2 13.6 -5
- w/14 38.08 19.04 -5
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Stone Armor
Power - LvL P-Type Res Def AttkTypes Act End N.End Rcg Special
Rock Armor 1 Toggle n/a 22.5 S/L - 1 0.35 0.3045 4 cant run w/ Granite
Stone Skin 2 Passive 5.625 n/a S/L - n/a n/a n/a n/a
Earths Embrace 4 Click 15 n/a Toxic - 1 15 13.05 360 "Self+heal+hp40%,Dur:120s"
Mud Pots 10 Toggle PBAoE .4167BI-Fire, Foe-spd- - - - - - 2 1.13 0.9831 4 Foe Immob Mag0
Rooted - - - - 16 Toggle Res:KB,Slp,Disornt,Hold,EndDrn - - 2 0.35 0.3045 10 Self+heal(base 100%) -jump/fly -run spd
Brimstone Armor 20 Toggle 22.5 n/a Fire/Cold - - - 1 0.35 0.3045 4 cant run w/ Granite
Crystal Armor 28 Toggle n/a 12.5 Energy/Neg 1 0.35 0.3045 4 cant run w/ Granite
Mineral Armor 35 Toggle n/a 12.5 Psi - - - - 1 0.35 0.3045 4 cant run w/ Granite
Granite Armor 38 Toggle 37.5 15 all but psi 1 1.5 1.305 4 Cant run w/ other armors
Cont'd "Res: KB,Hold,Immob,Sleep,Disorient(end drain?). Self(10%each) -Run Spd, -Rcg -Dmg"
*End drain prot is on which powers...other then granite/rooted?
EpS for armors w/o Mud pots old 1.75 new 1.5225
Eps for armors w/ mud pots old 2.88 new 2.5056
Eps for granite w/ root old1.85 new 1.6095
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Resistance's # SL Energy Element Toxic Psi
Base no Gran 5.625 0 22.5 15 0
3Slot(not EE) 8.83125 0 35.325 15* 0
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Defense #'s SL Energy Element Toxic Psi
Base no Gran 22.5 12.5 0 0 12.5
3slot no Gran 35.325 19.625 0 0 19.625
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Granites resists: SL Energy Element Toxic Psi
Granite 2slot w/SS 61.3391 52.5 52.5 52.5 0
Granite 2slot w/SS 67.7141 58.875 58.875 58.875 0
Granite 3slot solo 58.875 58.875 58.875 58.875 0
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Gramite def base: 15 15 15 15 0
Gran 3slot def 23.55 23.55 23.55 23.55 0

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Hello here is the converted info for brute primaries and secondaries(forthcoming, need to do 3 slot system).
Please note that Fire maybe out of order will be editing that once i get into game again, CoH planner still is using wrong lineup for powers...

DISCLAIMER:
Some people just see this and go...."my god thats allot'a numbers.."
and dont get any help from a chart like this so here is a short guide on how to use this info in a way that is more intuitive than number
crunching
BI: Brawl index most know what it is...its the multiplier on dmg based on a players brawl. Brutes are .75 brawl of scrapper btw.
See this thread for more info

Dmg types: im using a percentage listing so .6 means 60% of BI listed dmg is of type, when deciding or comparing sets its important
to remember that many mobs in CoH/CoV have S/L dmg resists, some rather high....

Target-self explainitory

Act: activation times in seconds

DPA: damage per activation,or DPS dmg per second... this number is very important to those doing attack chain analysis, so if your
goal is high damage, you want a high dpa or dps.

End:endurance

DPE: damage per endurance...for those tring to find powers that give the most dmg per endurance this is the number for you,
the higher the better. note most powersets have very simuliar DPE..most of the time. also good number for trying
to find out a chain of attacks you can maintain...
some powers are way off from normal dpe costs and ussually have some side effect that counter balances them(ET self dmg, SM long act times)
Also note that the higher DPE like fire has no nice side effects like knockback,
so consider the power side effects with the numbers plz.

DpCycle is a strange thing its damage per cycle, or damage divided time until next use of power, it isnt a good idea to use this number
to compare with powers inside the same powerset (although i found this number good for making some dps chains).
its more for comparing different sets powers at various lvls.

Rng-range.

Spcl: what special side effects do powers do, note if some are wrong or magnitude isnt listed post if you know the right info plz,
espcially magnitudes those are a pain to find sometimes.

Finally the stuff:
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-Dark Melee- BI Dmg types Target Act DPA End DPE Rcg DpCycle Rng Spcl
Shadow Punch 2.333 .6NE/.4SL - - - - Single 1 2.333 6.5 0.36 3 0.78 5 Foe -10%acc
Smite 3.678 .75NE/.25SL Single 1 3.678 10.0 0.37 6 0.61 5 All dark attks get
Shadow Maul 6.000 .5NE/.5SL - - - - S.Cone 3 2.000 11.0 0.55 8 0.75 8* this acc debuff
Touch of Fear 0 n/a- - Single 1 n/a 12.5 n/a 8 n/a 5 Fear Mag 1-2?/*-20%acc*
Siphon Life 2.778 100%NE Single 1 2.778 22.5 0.12 15 0.19 5 Self+HP*/-acc
Taunt 0.000 0 AoE 3 ** 3 70 Taunts 5 targets
Dark Consumptio 2.222 100%NE PBAoE 1 2.222 1.0 2.22 180 0.01 10* Self+End per foe
Soul Drain 2.664 100%NE PBAoE 3 0.888 22.5 0.12 120 0.02 10* Self+Acc/DMG
Midnight Grasp 6.333 100%NE Single 2 3.167 17.5 0.36 15 0.42 5 Foe immob - acc
Single Target BI avg 4.224 S/T DPA 2.791 DPE 1.76

Fiery Melee* BI Dmgtype Target Activ DPA End DPE Rcg DpCyc Rng Spcl
Scorch- - - - - 3.027 100%Fire - - - Single 2 1.514 6.5 0.47 3 1.01 5 w/ Minor DoT
Fire Sword 4.361 .65Fi/.35SL Single 2 2.181 10.0 0.44 6 0.73 5 w/ Minor DoT
Cremate 5.200 .65Fi/.35SL Single 3 1.733 12.5 0.40 12 0.43 5 No DoT!
Build up - - - - - - - - - - - Self 1 -- 6.0 -- 90 -- n/a Duration 10s
Taunt 0.000 Aoe 3 0.000 ? 3 70 5 target max
Incinerate - - -6.944 100%Fi Single 2 3.472 10.0 0.69 10 0.69 5 Major DoT only
Breath of Fire 4.611 100%Fi Cone 2 2.306 17.5 0.26 16 0.29 10 w/ Minor DoT
Fire Sword Circ 5.006 .57Fi/.43SL PBAoE 5 1.001 26.5 0.19 20 0.25 8* w/ Minor DoT
Grte Fire Swrd 8.166 .65Fi/.35SL Single 3 2.722 18.5 0.44 12 0.68 5 w/ Minor DoT
Single Target BI avg 5.500 S/T DPA 2.478 DPE 2.44

Stone BI DmgType Target Activ DPA End DPE Rcg DpCyc Rng Spcl
Stone Fist 2.778 SM Single 1 2.778 7.5 0.37 4 0.69 5 Minor Disorient
Stone Mallet 4.556 SM Single 2 2.278 13.0 0.35 8 0.57 5 Knockback
Heavy Mallet 6.333 SM Single 2 3.167 23.5 0.27 13 0.49 5 Knockback
Build Up - see aboves
Fault 0.000 Knockback AoE 2 0.000 14.5 0.00 20 0.00 20 &amp; Disorient
Taunt - see aboves
Hurl Boulder 4.556 SM S/Rngd 4 1.139 13.5 0.34 8 0.57 40 Range attk - fly
Tremor 2.778 SM PBAoE 4 0.694 19.5 0.14 14 0.20 8* Knockback
Seismic Smash 9.890 SM Single 2 4.945 26.5 0.37 20 0.49 5 Foe Hold/Disorient
Single Target BI avg 5.623 S/T DPA 2.861 DPE 1.70

SS BI DmgType Target Activ DPA End DPE Rcg DpCyc Rng Spcl
Jab 1.889 SM Single 1 1.889 5.0 0.38 2 0.94 5 Minor Disorient
Punch 2.778 SM Single 1 2.778 7.5 0.37 4 0.69 5 Knockback
Haymaker 4.556 SM Single 2 2.278 12.5 0.36 8 0.57 5 Knockback
Hand Clap 0.000 n/a PBAoE 1 0.000 19.0 0.00 30 0.00 8* Disorient/KB
Knockout Blow 9.889 SM Single 2 4.944 19.0 0.52 25 0.40 5 Major Disorient
Taunt - see aboves
Rage -- Self Buff 1 -- 19.0 -- 240 -- n/a Self +DMG/disorient
Hurl 4.556 SM S/Rngd 4 1.139 13.5 0.34 8 0.57 40 Knockback - fly
Foot Stomp 3.944 SM PBAoE 2 1.972 26.5 0.15 20 0.20 8* Knockback
Single Target BI avg 4.733 note: rage can be perma'd so dont read into SS numbers to much!
S/T DPA 2.606 DPE 1.97

Energy Melee BI Dmg types Target Activ DPA End DPE Rcg DpCyc Rng Spcl
Barrage 1.889 .74SM/.26EN Single 2 0.944 5.0 0.38 2 0.94 5 MAG1 Disorient
Energy Punch 2.778 .70SM/.30EN Single 1 2.778 7.5 0.37 4 0.69 5 MAG2 Disorient
Bone Smasher 4.556 .61SM/.39EN Single 1 4.556 12.0 0.38 8 0.57 5 MAG2 Disorient
Build Up - see aboves
Whirling Hands 2.778 .61SM/.39EN PBAoE 3 0.926 19.0 0.15 14 0.20 8* MAG1 Disorient
Taunt - see aboves
Total Focus 9.889 .28SM/.72EN Single 3 3.296 27.0 0.37 20 0.49 5 MAG4 Disorient
Stun 0.680 N/A Single 2 0.340 14.5 0.05 20 0.03 5 Mag3 Disorient
Energy Transfer 12.667 .34SM/.66EN Single 1 12.667 14.5 0.87 20 0.63 5 MAG2 Disorient
Single Target BI avg 6.356 S/T DPA 4.848 DPE 2.37
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*again need to doublecheck the power's order

If you are looking for more of a critique of powersets look to various build guides as they are forthcoming, im just making this guides to get the numbers out to ppl so they can make up there own minds...or at least have a starting point. im sure well see all sorts of personal guides for brute x/y powersets soon.

well that bites. ok so if the devs dont want to datamine and give us our badges fine

BUT

Dont go basing new requirement/toys/prizes on those badges such as prestige AT's like khelds so on.

in regards to those invincs #'s i doublechecked my own test math and i capped def at 7 minions in melee. That is i was getting hit only 1 in 20 times or every 3rd or so set of attacks from the 7. i used even level brawling melee types, operational engineers. I had -10% def UY running before it was dropped to 5% again and 6 slotted def SO+2 in my invince.

so to break that down:
7 even lvl melee attackers vs invince running 6 SO's = total def 45% (-10% for UY) = 55% def total
55%/7 mobs = 7.99 =8% per

8%/2.33=3.4% base. so yep something like 3.5 on base

Am i missing something??

8% x 14 = 112% def way over 50% def!

i sincerly hope they look this over. ice tanks deserve a chance to be a tank equal to the other tank powersets. i was already aware of the horrendous difference between ice's overall def and invulns but i guess the devs still need some hard evidence to get them to make ice a balanced power.

Question: are you going to retroactively give badges for TF's like moonfire, SS1-4 once they are added in I5? Does the code allow for this or is the information from a person completing those TF's not kept?

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Problem is I outlevelled most of the Hollows and Striga content only doing missions. I made another character just to go through all the hollows stuff and found it difficult to stay within the level restrictions to finish Hollows storylines. Halving the debt in missions means I need to spend more time dying outside of missions.

I'd like to see missions scale to your security level clearance more. I suppose a Flashback system is the alternative to this, but if the missions scaled then the enemies inside would always be around your level so we wouldn't need level restrictions.

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ditto!! Jeez im trying hard not to outlevel my contacts and i couldnt do it for the first arc and hollows....my main toon existed pre-hollows and even now in the 40's i have to be careful about how fast i lvl, as it stands now i gotta dig up a group to do the Quaterfield TF soon or ill have to exmp to do it (yeech!). If i got one level every 5 with street sweeping or god forbid getting xp on someone elses mish, i wouldnt be able get all the arcs and title mish's!

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