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Caves may make the League more interesting and there was no reason *not* to play them. They can be annoying and disorienting, but the same effect's applied to each team so it all works out.
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Quote:Don't attempt to troll me. I will report you to Mod05. Beware.Can you post up the link for the forum debate please? I would like to read more up on it.
If it honestly isn't clear enough that your concerns aren't legitimate and no one cares, feel free to keep posting in the hopes that someone someday finally will. -
Quote:I just think no more than 3 for each AT would be fine, but 7 is a bit overkill.
More importantly, it would be stupid and less effective than other, more diverse line-ups to bring seven. It was a joke because idiots rage over Psi Blasters. This isn't a pentad. It's just a normal League and restrictions only exist to prevent 0-0 draw teams or broken ****.
Regardless; this was already discussed and voted on and isn't going to change because of some uneducated forum debate.
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"You've zero appreciation for subtlety." -PerilX
Though, the hamburger is hilarious. I also enjoyed Psoma's crudely expanded, round, bulbousy fattness that took Wario to a new level of morbidly obese referred to as "morbidly, morbidly obese".
Looking forward to at least seeing preliminary rosters posted, even those which aren't quite filled; as well as the free agent sign-up to see if this thing's a "go" or not. -
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Quote:Haha, you just got pooped. You're terrible, you die a lot, you think you understand PvP; you don't. It's simple, so it's sad. Maybe try Frogger.You're an insightful ball of joy eh.
As I understand it it's bad form, even for you, to quit out of arena matches once you've run yourself outta inspirations within the first 3 mins. I tend not to take toooo much advice from players like that thanks.
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I don't think it much matters who joins the Vent discussion, as long as they're offering up potentially useful suggestions; just helpful in some way, conducive to a better League.
I won't be able to participate, even though I know the community will be disappointed, so if possible, I'll send BIG MIKE in my place. He's a little abrasive, or so I've heard, but I'm pretty sure it'll work out.
This League'll already be better than the previous FPvPL if we go best two out of three on matches. That way, points can be kept, but one bad match or draw doesn't bother you in the same way it would.
Blind line-up submission just makes things quick; smooth.
Still would like 2 Stalkers as a cap; maybe something similar for Brutes/Tanks as anything over that, in reality, is a draw line-up. -
Come at me, bro.
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Quote:Go back to Denny's.So, I'm showing interest because I have no interest... complain more. It's about all you CAN contribute to this thread or keep killing league, whichever comes more natural.
Again, wish you guys the best of luck.
I contribute BAEG DAEK and swollen, purple love which is accompanied with a rich, creamy sauce of justice that makes fat kids like you mad. -
Quote:Lol, Regens in large team matches. This isn't RV. You need to understand that it's a bit different in the Arena. ^_~Also, 1 veat should be able to hassle 2 stalkers so they could use 4 of those and have room for 4 KM/regins.......
Quote:Team limitations only serve to create a slightly altered optimal team make up. Then everyone runs that. It's not going to breed the new teams everywhere omg what is that environment some people think.
2-3 stalker limitation and call it a day.
Quote:New people? What SH* are you smoking? Cause I want some....
It isn't reasonable to expect people who would like to participate in competitive pvp to shell out the billions it takes to make a competitive build.
Either way, even with those resources available, you've proven that it can just as easily be irrelevant. You're bad, but unfortunately, you can't fix stupid; in this game, the two are the same. =)
Quote:As long as the point of starting a freedom league is attempting to get enough interest to form a new test league...
Wish you the best of luck on the freedom league then.
Look, you seem overly interested in this issue for someone who has nothing to do with it. Stop clogging the thread with your fatness. -
Quote:I'd rather keep the limit to two. Made more sense to me.Id like limit stalkers to 3 and have ties replayed. We shall see what happens there.
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Quote:Why does everyone think limits inspire creativity?Might I suggest one thing.
Not everyone likes to play and or has spec'd out blasters that they feel they could match up with, people will like to participate more if there's room open for originality.
The NFL puts in its own restrictions to make the game enjoyable, there can only be so many eligible receivers downfield, too many receivers who's gonna block?
Personally I like that the league captains were able to self police themselves by allowing only two stalkers per match, beyond that why not set up restrictions for every AT allowed in match. And also the new badness of KM will need to be accounted for.
Tank (2), Blaster (4), Scrapper (2), Defender (3), Controller (3), HEAT (3)
Brute (2), Dom (4), Stalker (2), Corruptor (3), Mastermind (3), VEAT (3)
Just throwing that out there, it can be changed up but I think a max of 4 is a good number to work with. Forced variety would mean more creativity which could lead to better enjoyment and participation.
Just because the devs at this game let their PvP be bad doesn't mean we have to facilitate it's badness.
Even if people went for this, though they won't; all it would do is create a new best/easy general line-up and everyone would run it. This kid has a Corr rather than a Blaster? Oh, we're running Corrs! Wait, wrong primary or secondary.... That idea solves nothing. The baddies will still have to re-roll more often than not and line-ups will have little to no diversity.
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Quote:So test could work and not require people to pay for server transfers and make sure everyone has ios - we just have to stagger matches - if there are 12 teams each match can happen per day (match1 mon - match2 tues..and so on) as long as no more than 4 other people are not on test...omg so easy.
Only 80% of people maybe willing to PvP in some form of a League won't do it on Test, even if it's working flawlessly without a broken copy tool or a server cap of 8. -
That sucks. Now I have to pay to move my Emp off of that bad server.
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Quote:WTF? You never asked me. I'm not on a team!Here in lies the issue we need to vote on how many initial team members. We are assuming 6 without actually discussing it with the capt's and IMO 4 is by far a better choice. That is really the only thing I want to get sorted out right now so I can attempt to organize a team. I currently have 4 and do not plan on asking any more till this is sorted.
Even if people settle on 6, you could still have four, but draft more. I don't think it's an issue. Moving on this too soon could be, if certain captains who may have intended to lead a team are unable or simply change their minds. I was under the impression a few were "might"s and we're just assuming it's locked in.
I'm assuming there will be an "everyone must play" rule to keep **** carebear? -
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I don't care if someone would rather not play with certain people, it's bound to happen; not allowing idiots to be Captains is a good idea, though.
As far as global name changes and **** like that, I also couldn't care less. I changed my global so I'd be allowed in some really fat league, not to get on any particular team. I ended up on a team where I knew, like, one person; til Silit was traded for.
As far as I'm concerned, it's your team vs whoever. If you're too ****** to win a match vs some players, you deserve the loss, so people could do any and all sorts of acct-sharing, "sneaking", etc. I don't give half a ****. It's always happened and will always happen anyway. -
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I agree that four's a good format. A good base of core players to mold your team to.
If your concern isn't numbers, as in captains able to field the original six, but rather stacked teams that remove interest, I can see it as a possibility. Still, I'd rather play with my friends. I'm okay with drafts as supplements, but I'd rather bring an entire pre-constructed team 'cause I'm tired of baby-sitting. Doesn't matter, 'cause that can't happen now.
Still, I'm still thinking six is a good balance, with not too many players but enough so your core can be your friends or just solid.
If circumstance dictates and less would help the growth/success I'm still fine with it, but I think I'd need to see more legitimate concerns. If the interest was only at this level, but another League wasn't currently running; I'd be more inclined to agree now. -
Quote:I thought 6 was a good balance, but I think before debating this too much; let's wait out the bad League and see what happens.why I suggested core of 4 - if you can't get 4 then you should just go to draft - more talent in the pool. 8 is hard to get these days..4 not so much. honestly giving preference to teams to pick because they could not get 4 would not be a good idea...basically if you could not get 3 people you want to be your core, how willing would a first draft pick be to show up?
If the interest is low, it's a good idea. Lowering it now would displace people, potentially, and I'd rather not see that. If 6 works for the captains or would-be captains, I'm all about it, obviously, but reducing it to 4 means people who would like to play together might not be able to.
There are some pretty frequently occurring spite-picks via draft. I know if I entered the draft I'd probably end up on some retards team and hating life. Not that I'm entering it anyway, but the same is true for others. Ideally; I'd like the draft not to be involved, I wanna play with my E-friends so I can pretend I'm cool and be carried but really, I felt 6 was the best balance between making it easy enough for others to start and still leaving less vocal or known players tons of chances to make it onto teams.
Dunno if I made sense, I woke up from a black-out night, like, 20 minutes ago but whatever. I'm black as ****, *****. -
Quote:I'll be a captain, but was wondering....if it can be a smaller format than 14 players per team...i'd prefer to have more teams competing than to have less than a handful of teams. 8v8 is great but 6v6 or even 5v5 is just as fun as long as there are lots of team.
No, it's not just as fun. 8v8s would be the only thing worth doing, and the population supports that format.
Lowering it would create more teams, but it would also force some to reconsider joining, since, as I said.. 8v8s are far more fun.
Also, adding more teams means finding more people willing to captain those teams, and most players lack the initiative.
If they're already volunteering, clearly, as this league is being created and formed by ear, maybe something will change, but ideally, no.