UberGuy

Personally, I don't accept that the "temp" inherent powers make "true" travel powers obsolete. Both Super Jump and Super Speed are significantly faster (and SJ jumps significantly higher) than Ninja or Beast Run. That might not matter to everyone, but it's certainly a compromise I don't accept in my builds. Also, I really don't like having to using a temp jet/raptor pack to get more significant vertical movement on my jumpers - if I wanted that, I would pick the Flight pool. (I don't do Super Speed / CJ as a primary way of getting around - I only have Super Speed as a supplemental travel power, because of its stealth aspect.)

And of course, none of that gets into the ability to slot useful things in travel powers, which you can't do with the inherent or temp powers.

Responding more directly to the idea of the OP, I don't think travel powers should to be inherent. We already got a pretty big "gimme" with inherent Fitness, and without an expansion in what powers (and slots) we have (which definitely has some power creep considerations), there's not much left for us to take.

So basically I see the idea of inherent travel powers as a fix for a non-existent problem that risks some negative side effects.

One of the parts of Remus' thesis that weirds me out is the notion that most of us skipped powers from our primary and/or secondary powersets, and therefore when we got inherent Fitness, what we must have done was put those primary or secondary powers we skipped back in. Looking over my own builds, that's not what happened in the majority of cases, or if it happened, it happened only for some of the three powers I regained, and usually only powers that could take just the base slot.

Usually, I find the majority of my primary/secondary powers to be among the most desirable powers available to me, and my builds include most of them, usually with only one or two that I do not take. Those powers I do not take fall into two broad categories.

• Powers I would have liked to had but wanted something else more
• Powers that I would still want something else more even if I got more powers

Powers in the first category were often non-critical passives, like those in Invulnerability. My build didn't have the En/Neg and Fire/Cold resist passives. After they were buffed a while back, they became more desirable than they had been when I originally skipped them. Yet even though they are became more desirable than they used to be, they were still not so desirable that they would have bumped any other powers I had picked for my build pre-inherent-Fitness. But once Fitness was moved out of the list, those two Invulnerability passives percolated up into my build. Maneuvers made my third power pick, and I granted it a 2nd slot in my respec.

Most of my characters gained no primary or secondary powers. One, a BS/Regen Scrapper, didn't even have Fitness, and quite honestly, with the builds' toggle count and rate of spamming Sweeping Strike, it struggled a bit for endurance under full load. Clearly, that character's build didn't really change after inherent Fitness. But I have three Regen characters. None of the other two gained any primary or secondary powers. Both gained some Leadership toggles, and one got Vengeance. Both of the other two Regens (a Stalker and a Scrapper) picked up Soul Mastery. My SM/FA Brute picked up two Leadership toggles and Vengeance. I also have four level 50 Corruptors and Defenders. None picked up primary or secondary powers - anything I had skipped from their primary or secondary powersets I skipped because I think it's a crappy power. All fliers, they instead all picked up Combat Jumping (for the immobilization protection, the +defense, and the LotG slotting). Two picked up an Epic Pool power they had not previously had. Two picked up Super Speed not so much for the stealth, but for the horizontal movement speed. (They are fliers.)

The one case where I picked up only primary/secondary powers was my Night Widow. She had lots of one-slot-wonder powers that were good to take but that she didn't had room for before Fitness was inherent. She picked up Placate, Vengeance and Assault, all from her secondary. But Widows (and SoAs in general) do have more power pick options than most ATs, so her example of reduced diversity is probably less than it might otherwise be.

So most cases, I lost no diversity in the sense that I usually only juggled pool and epic powers, not primary/secondary powers. At worst, I probably usually came out a wash, because I suspect many people with similar characters also had most of the same primary/secondary powers I did, and when respeccing for inherent fitness probably picked similar pool power choices to my own. But I think there's a chance those people and I became slightly more diverse, because I think a few people respeccing for inherent fitness probably did not make all the same pool and epic power choices I did.

Yeah, I don't want to belabor it too much, but the game doesn't support the "truly natural" character that well in lore or execution, because our "natural" ranged characters are shooting bows or swinging their fists at dimension-shattering demigods, 50' tall robots firing rockets back. We can point to stories (in comics and elsewhere) where that is explained as luck, skill, etc., but beyond a point, if you keep doing it, the truth is that you're superhuman.

That the game only really supports those kinda of battles at high levels perhaps deserves its own complaint department, but that horse is pretty far out the barn door at this point.

No, you're not the only one, but I do think the problem stems (perhaps) from a misinterpretation of "Natural" in this game's context. While people with no truly metahuman powers qualify as "natural", so do people who can do unexplainable, superhuman things, like throw fireballs or fly. The trite examples usually stem from Asian influences - people who have tapped some inner chi (often martial artists) but also things like Hindu mystics or even Arab mystics. The human (but still ridiculously powerful) characters from Dragonball Z or the main characters of "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" (who could fight on open water) come to mind for the martial arts side. There's an in-lore example: Soldiers of Arachnos. While I admit that Bane Spiders seem more tech than natural (especially Crabs), the Widow side of things is pretty acceptable as "natural", and they have ridiculously superhuman capabilities. Even the most non-Psi-wielding of Night Widows play like some kind of Primal Earth Jedi/Sith, sans the lightsaber of course.

And then there's always the notion, long ago specifically mentioned by Statesman (a.k.a. Jack Emmert) that aliens (from space or other dimensions) with superhuman powers would fall under the "Natural" origin classification. See: Peacebringers.

So if you really, really want a Batman-style hero, I agree your choices are limited. But if what you want is "Natrual" as the game world seems to interpret it, there's a lot of leeway.

It may not actually be related, but the RSS feeds for the Dev and Community Digests have also gone kaput.

I had to log in, but the actual power name is "Elusive Mind". But yeah, and it makes sense the crafting table is too. I don't have that on anyone.