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Quote:No I was doing per power side by side comparisons to I Strike.Originally Posted by Socorro
Well you can't put a Purple Proc in both Blast & Bolt, can you? In any case, I'm not enough of a math wiz to know who's right. If IS is not useful for high end DPS, is it worth slotting at all, in your opinion (other than as a mule)?
Keep in mind the shorter cast times also mean fitting in more attacks. With Apoc in g bolt using an alternative slotting for g blast, i strike's DPA goes slightly higher than blast. That in and of itself isn't conclusive though, since bolt and blast combined have a shorter cast time than I strike. So not only are bolt and blast beating I Strike on DPA by themselves with purple procs (they each fall behind by about 6 pts when you sub in a toxic damage proc) but you can use them both in the time it takes to use i strike. By the time you finish casting both blasts, r strike is up on a high end build and that beats everything by a longshot.
And yea I guess there's a point in using I Strike as a hold if you have the slots for it and don't mind the animation time. It's also nice for exemping and good burst damage for one shotting LT's in the lower levels. It's just not good for sustained DPS situations, ie AV fights and the like. -
Quote:This is the best chain, period. Why are you looking at DPS of single attacks? Why are you writing pages of useless crap without even giving total DPS numbers for the chains you're posting? Why do you think this:
Gleaming Bolt -> Gleaming Blast -> Radiant Strike
Is better than Bolt?Blast>R Strike? The animation on I Strike is way too long to be used in a high DPS chain. With ED capped damage and a purple proc in each plus t4 interface the DPA is higher on r strike, g bolt and g blast than it is on I Strike. There's no reason to ever use I Strike over any of those 3 attacks if you want high end DPS on your Peacebringer.Quote:Incandescent Strike -> Radiant Strike -> Gleaming Bolt -> Gleaming Blast -> -
"Watch gigantic evil Statesman hop around. Get a warning for stupid AOE. Back off 300 feet. Still get hit by overpowered lightning thing. Move a little slowly due to some choppiness. Go to hospital. Repeat for rest of trial."
This trial is a disgrace imo. If an option to unlock Hybrid iXP with other trials (MoM and TPN at the very least) and flat-out buy it with threads/inf. isn't added very soon, my sub is canceled. This trial is the biggest bucket of fail I've ever seen in my life. -
It's funny how many I'm still getting. My taunt aura is strong.
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Quote:You're a little late to the party here. Have fun trying to farm on a cheapo Ill/Rad, peasant. LOL!Originally Posted by DarkBlaster_NA
THB's egomania aside, I hate to break it to you that a remotely decent built ill/rad not only can do all those things faster, safer, and generally better in most regards, but they also have better group synergy. (This is assuming perma phantom army for damage categories.)
And no, I do not care for your imanginary market.
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Quote:>.>Originally Posted by seebs
Only time I ever tried to affect the market, all I did was dump a few hundred alchemical silvers listed at 1inf.
I still don't know if I believe you. I'm not gonna test my luck. -
Leaving COH is impossible. I've tried so many times. I think the first sign is when I say, "I don't wanna play anymore, but I'm gonna keep my sub up anyways. Y'know. Because I don't wanna miss any reward tokens. I'm totally quitting though."
My record for not playing since I first joined up is 3 and a half days.
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I like Cimerorans on my Warshade for the extra damage, but I went with Storm Elementals on my Archery Blaster because they look cool and I like the -end (it goes well with Drain Psyche, E-Fences and Ion.) There are tons of reasons to take different Lore pets imo, a lot of them give really neat buffs. I have Seers on my Fire Blaster for the psi damage, but they also have a heal and Fortitude. I suggest checking out the info on all of them in game.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Black_Assassin
No. 'Holding your interest' isn't how YOU measure the benefits of powersets.
Just because a set doesn't meet up to your exacting standards, doesn't mean it's bad.
Already posted my perspective on it:
Quote:Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
I don't doubt that the set can perform to a reasonable standard, because everything in the game can. COH is very balanced in that respect, I don't think that anything is ever truly terrible... It's just that some sets are so good/so much better than others in comparison and that's what leads to things like me calling sets like Ice Control "bronze medal" sets. I'm sure that a good player who's experienced with it can do great things with it, but c'mon. We have Illusion, Mind, Plant, etc. -
Quote:Wow, so Ice Control has reached the epic plateau of "playable." Holding your interest isn't how the rest of us measure the benefits of powersets. Sorry about that.Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
I think Ice Control is somewhat less powerful than other control sets, but playable. It could use some buffs. The reason I play it is because you can't find anything like it in other games. I've sent enough electronic enemies to their deaths in 20 years of RP gaming that my standard is "what holds my interest."
I think you commenting on it and taunting other players about it when you have never actually played it is silly, and your constant antagonizing of other players borders on a personality disorder. I'm not sure how you think you come across, but to me, at least, your tone is inappropriate and I think its probably best if you and I just stay away from each other.
If you don't wanna talk to me, don't quote me. I like COH but I don't like the fact that it's turned into happy fun land where everyone holds hands and skips through ranbows in an enchanted forest. I'm not everyone else on the forum, if I don't agree with something you say don't expect me to act like they do. If you can't take being argued with, just don't talk to me. -
Quote:Oed. your post leads me to believe that you are very biased towards Ice. You've referenced your experience with it, and you seem to be naturally fond of it based on your previous posts. This makes me think that you don't think Ice Control sucks- And congratulations on that feat. I'm sure it took a grand amount of doublethink and personal attachment in order to arrive at that conclusion.Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
Do you actually have an end-game Mind Controller, or is this more speculation based on what you see in Mids? Not going to go too far into it here, but for various reasons Mind Control is quite far behind in damage. You can bring that discussion to the Controller boards if you want to explore it in more detail.
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As it happens, so does everyone here. You're welcome to your opinion, but I do think you should at least consider there are people in this thread who have actually played this set before.
I personally have 4 Ice characters at 50.
Trick question. Illusion has a completely different kind of control than any of the control sets. The actual Illusion set's AoE control in a fast moving group is probably around the level of certain Corruptors and Defender sets like Dark Miasma. Phantom Army is great for holding the attention of a couple of enemies or an AV. It's a great power. But it doesn't completely displace Ice Slick or AA and such. I feel like I have to ask again: have you played this set? Have you played any Controller at all? You do at least realize Illusion is not available to Dominators, even though you deflected my statement about Ice Dominators to talk about Controllers again? I'm really not trying to be mean to you, but the level of confidence you invest in your judgments about sets you have no first hand experience with is a little offputting. There's good reason I don't make myself knownon the Tanker boards for making judgments about Super Reflexes or whatever even though I have mids and am pretty good with it.
Yes.
Not at the level of play we're talking about. Mind Dominators can make up for it, but not because the primary has great damage.
That's really not necessary. I'm more a fan of some of the posted builds than others, but in the spirit of fairness I think we need to give everyone a chance to participate without insulting them.
Arbiter Hawk probably had little to do with the selection of the powersets in this thread, and if he had anything to do with it, he clearly chose what were two of the least discussed-as-being-good powersets in the game in an attempt to peak interest in them, via the new BUILD WORKSHOP SECTION OF THE FORUMS, which serves an awesome purpose, since DEV'S post here sometimes!
He's clearly busy developing the new stuff that leaked that we're not allowed to talk about. He'll get to this thread whenever he feels like it and has time to. I bet most of his personal COH time is spent stomping mobs on an Arch/Ment Blaster or a Human Warshade. Arbiter Hawk is way too clever to play Ice Control. -
Quote:This is why I sometimes think I should be in charge of KF's. Because if it was me, I would call popcorn break. And if Speedy didn't solo those hunts and defeat all's by the time everyone got back, there would be... Consequences...Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
We ran the most boring TF ever: Justin Augustine. There were like 20 hunts and 5 door missions. Awesome.
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Quote:Bahaha. Just stick it in Solar Flare and go human form. You can line up the cone and the TAOE from range... Though it's not ideal. You'll still have to skip Seekers for PVE.Originally Posted by Zaloopa
Yep, made him a rogue back in december I think, for kheld fridays.
With that special -KB enhancement from the summer thing maybe I'll consider making a PB again... nah, I'd need the ability to slot at least 2 or 3 of them before I could have fun with a peacebringer.
Also, RIP 2012 Rangers. I am depressed. -
Quote:Zaloooopa! I miss you bud. Is your Warshade a Rogue yet?Originally Posted by Zaloopa
btw, next week should be my last week of work for the spring season, after that I will be able to start coming to these again.
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Update to my COH bro's: Rangers were down 2-0 and came back to tie it up! Third period's starting soon. I'm sorry for missing KF's but this is very important. I'll be on after the game if you guys are still around.
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Stone are you still running a s/l build?
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My favorite Scrapperlock moments are:
1. Whenever I play my Warshade. Too many stories to tell.
2. Going off and soloing mobs of Praetorian robots on my Peacebringer during Tin Mage. This happened recently during Kheldian Fridays, and it felt pretty good.
3. Soloing entire bunkers on Keyes Island with my Arch/Ment, and taking out Warwalkers for temp drops by myself. This has happened more than once, it's my favorite trial to do on my Blaster for all the amazing Scrapperlock opportunities. The last time I did a Keyes on him I tagged and charged 3 terminals single-handedly, all on the same phase. -
Quote:enough for a ST chain- Well>Eye>Blast>Eye is actually the highest DPS you can get on a Warshade build. I pefer to sub Eye for E Drain for the heal but it is slightly less damage. For that build, AOE is coming from Mire, Unchain and fluffies. Dark Detonation isn't great for AOE right now but I do have it in my current build. Come the summer event, it'll be like an awesome ranged Foot Stomp once you stick a -KB proc in there.Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
Hmm, thanks for that.
Only 3 attacks (human form at least) though? Did you have enough recharge where you didn't notice any slow down in the attack chain or did you swap to dwarf to attack or a mixture? -
Here's my old Human/Dwarf s/l softcapped build. You might wanna sub in some cheaper sets, but this worked well for me when I used it. Dwarf was just for mules but I guess you could use it for exemping. The mire is gimpy though.
Edit: It also uses the pre-issue 22 Eclipse slotting, so you'll wanna re-evaluate that.
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One day he's going to tell us what he's running for.
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Quote:It's about convenience more than anything else. You need to understand that the time someone spends PLing you is time that could be spent marketeering, ticket farming, villain/emp merit farming, etc. 300 million for a run is really breaking even for a farmer. Granted I PL my friends for free all the time, but I have no qualms hiring someone to PL one of my alts if it's needed. Waiting for a friend to PL you, they'll generally bring others along for the ride too which means less XP gain. It's also around their schedule, whereas hiring a farmer is around your schedule. Also, infamy really isn't that big of a deal. You can make 300 mil in a half hour or less just doing SSA's for villain merits.Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Seeing powerlevelling being charged for is something I will never understand, it is much easier making an actual friend and getting it done for free surely?
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Quote:AIB doesn't pay a subscription fee. He gets paid $15 a month to play the game.Originally Posted by Laserblitz_Emcc
Ps to Mr AIB
You are my idol
I have done everything you did on my human only WS
But i had to cheat and use every frickin' temp pet and a few warburg nukes
But since i always keep them in stock on my toon at all times,( routinely re earn them soon after using them) i feel there are part of my build/AT
But i never claimed to be a purist
You sir, are pure WS kick A$$
Primal Earth won the war against Praetoria because AIB one-shotted Tyrant with Brawl.
Galaxy City was destroyed because AIB accidentally used Rest in the zone.
Giant Monsters show up gray to AIB.
Before any new content comes out, the Dev's ask AIB to test it. If it takes him more than 10 seconds to solo it, they know it will be challenging for full teams of other players.
The 'I Win' button was created after a GM watched AIB use Gabriel's Hammer.
Blue Steel uses a thread from AIB's blazer as a source to draw out his power.
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Quote:I'm not disputing anything. I'm just explaining myself. This is actually the first civil conversation Reppu and I have had about anything. Chillax yo.Originally Posted by Dz131
Lol THB I don't even know what/who you're trying to dispute there. You're the one that claimed in your own words:
"I have E-Fences to lock down spawns which is a reliable way to keep enemies from scattering too much. Once i23 comes out and I have Hybrid's taunt aura, I expect that I will become even more efficient."
LT's were resisting it, or I was just missing them a lot. Even if the Brute provoke mechanism doesn't work in patron attacks, there's still FS being cycled every 5-6s.Quote:LTs shouldn't be resisting it. Mag 3, isn't it? The bosses, sure.
Also, PokeVoke, which is what you're referring to, isn't a natural AoE. I also do not think it applies to Patron Attacks. I'll double check later.
And I'm really not trying to make excuses, so I'm sorry if it's coming across that way. I had honestly never even tried to clear a full cave before because it just didn't seem efficient to me. Even on my SS/Fire I wouldn't farm that way.
And again: Fences do a wonderful job to lock down runners when I'm not overly worried about killing every single enemy. It's only at this extreme of clear-all where a Brute's extra methods of aggro control really start to make a big impact. -
Quote:He was also using Lore pets to keep things herded- I have Storm Elementals so the KB means that method wouldn't work for me. It's worth mentioning that not only do Brutes get a taunt aura, they also have a version of the tank inherent providing a taunt with every attack used. And yes, Fences help, but they definitely don't always work. You should've seen the bosses and LT's just run through them.Originally Posted by Reppu
You have Electrifying Fences, which is the same method Brutes use to keep things within range if they go with Mu, since even a Taunt Aura is not going to keep everything in range (And it doesn't, you're going to have runners from time to time.)
I am well aware that you have one of the best tools for farming to keep things locked down and to avoid runners, just it does not always work, I agree. Brutes have Taunt and Fences if they went Mu, and many do for this method of lockdown.
Yes fences do help but when you're at the aggro cap they're not going to do a 100% job (or even close to it.) With the way I prefer to farm though, they do plenty good enough.... But in a circumstance that requires defeat-all farming they are not sufficient by themselves.Quote:3. I have E-Fences to lock down spawns which is a reliable way to keep enemies from scattering too much. Once i23 comes out and I have Hybrid's taunt aura, I expect that I will become even more efficient.
That.
So, this is either user-error, or just unfortunate circumstance. Regardless, it is there. And I know how good E-Fences are. I swear by them when able. -
Quote:It's still a cave, but I don't clear the whole thing. Read a couple posts up for my method.Originally Posted by Reppu
531029? Alright, I'll do a little browsing and see what you're doing. I have an Archery/Fire myself, and while it's no Mental, I can probably duplicate your method none the less. Drain Psyche is a powerful survivability tool, but it's not a necessity in farming I've felt.
Regardless, it does sound like Caves are not your forte', which is an amicable thing to admit to. Kudos for you, you've regained a bit of bowing grace. Everyone can use more of that.