TrueGentleman

Still?! When is the Paragon Collective going to devote sufficient emergent AI coding resources to fix the numerous bugs that have plagued this archetype ever since it was released with the Exurb of Morally Ambiguous Metahumans expansion? Once again, it only goes to show that devs hate ultravioletside.

TrueGentlemen, heed my warning! I alone have escaped the coming temporal collapse that will occur unless you all cease your cross-timeline posting immediately! (Did I say immediately? It looks like it should have been five minutes ago. I'll just leave the way I came in.)

Good lord, what are you doing on these forums, TrueGentleman Indigo Whiskey? I haven't seen you since the Crisis on Infinite Internets!

Greetings, Zwillinger 2113 (your futureselves say hello). It looks as though this post appeared on the 2011 boards because of a temporal leak. I suggest you check your time-filter settings on your browser before the chrono-mods notice and wipe out it out with an alternate timeline.

I object! I've been playing CoH6 via SSH timetunnel on the hive AI required to play future games, and there are no confirmed plans for a sequel (at least not until somebody figures out how to avert the coming IED {Indeterminate Extinction Date} of 2112).

Besides, the Paragon development gestalt relocated to a pocket universe, so we're not getting any information from them until the fifth Stephen Hawking clone finishes his new theory about how to extract information from the black hole gateway.

Also, most contemporary ISPs block Google's future-caching feature because of the risk of chronological paradoxes. After all, nobody wants another global dinosaur war to break out because some geneticist was able to copy plans for a DIY saurian gene-splicing machine from Xikipedia.

Goodness gracious, this is baby-time frolics. CoH doesn't even have a language barrier between its devs and the playing community.

Didn't you forget the at the end of that joke? Or do you still stand by your thread's wholly unsupported title ("City of Heroes 2 Coming Soon") and original post ("City of Heroes 2 to launch next year, and CoH goes free-to-play with GR2.")

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof, as the professional sceptics like to say.

And that's all she wrote.

Wait, no, this is all she wrote: Why "Wonder Woman" can't get off the ground:
So instead of superheroines we can look forward to shows about Playboy bunnies, airline stewardesses, and bartenders? Suffering Sappho indeed.

Wonder Woman never had a completely flawless legacy in the comics, yet there's obviously much potential to the character, who's sufficiently mutable to survive in contemporary culture, unlike her contemporaries such as Phantom Lady, Lady Luck, and the Woman in Red.

The Crosby TV movie shows up from time to time, but it's not an abomination like Legends of the Superheroes so much as incredibly dull. One could argue, though, that the Crosby version's significant departures from the original concept of the original character echo in Kelley's "updating" of the character, e.g. she's a multi-millionaire corporate CEO but not like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne, she loves girl-power pop singles but not Ally McBeal's soundtrack. Kelley's approach to adaptation (at least in the excoriated first draft) preferred introducing mundane cliches over integrating the unusual elements that make Wonder Woman iconic into something that would appeal to a contemporary audience.

Tell that to Lindsey Lohan.

Whenever you agree with anything here, it's a sign of trouble...

Be that as it may, the other thread is clearly labelled as speculation and as such, presents no problem. This one, however, advertises a purely hypothetical sequel and does not back its extraordinary claims with anything approaching evidence.

Ordinarily, the only response for the honor of the forums would be pistols at dawn, but the OP is new and not a seasoned veteran of sometimes idiosyncratic customs of discussion here, such as yourself.

So you're not going to go back over the devs' statements and other sources to provide supporting evidence, or even "hints", for the so-called City of Heroes 2 sequel or why you are of the opinion that it's "coming soon"? Because that's the sole basis of meaningful conversation here.

This is far from the first time on the forums the possibility of a sequel to CoH has come up - such as the CoH2 domain registration or its trademarking, which happened years ago - and then been argued down (so even the bragging rights have been reserved long ago).

Whatever Paragon Studios is working on, they're keeping it to themselves, and any predictions ought to be backed up by more than just, say, tarot cards, astrology, haruspicy, or a vaudevillian mentalist act.

No harm done. If you're willing to draw such conclusions about want ads, what then of reading into fellow forumites' motives?

The truth is out there, is it? The chief caveat for truth-seekers is that it's easy to mistake one's own footprints for the quarry's trail. Your snark may turn out be a boojum.

There's no dispute about the existence of the existence of new job postings, only the unsupported inferences about them.

Yet from another perspective, that's "too emotionally invested in the new and shiny to see that MMOs as old or older than CoH continue without the need of sequels".


But to reiterate, if you want to contribute to a thread about a sequel to CoH, it behoves you to produce reliable and concrete information and not just hypotheticals and gossip, especially when the devs are always so noncomittally tight-lipped when asked, e.g.

And that's two Lewis Carroll references in one post, so until there's something substantial, I'll wait to contribute again.

By all means, please do. The only real drawback to the devs' communicativeness is that there's a lot to sift through. (For the record, we're looking for rumors about an expansion release, i.e. something comparable in scope to CoV or GR, and not a standard issue, correct?)

Take care with the accusations of trolling, especially when you're stirring the forum pot with only self-generated rumors.

As for registering the domain cityofheroes2.com, it's standard practice for a company to register alternate domain names simply in order to protect trademarks. And registering it back in 2007 coincides with NCSoft's purchase of CoH, so that can be explained by basic due diligence.

[citation needed]

Seriously, you're the only hit on Google search of these forums for a sequel specifically called "Going Rogue 2".

The logistical nightmare this would entail doesn't bear contemplating, especially not so soon after recent ordeal of the basic NA/EU server merge (and despite running over time, that was well executed by industry standards).

And neither of those implies City of Heroes 2.

One other factor to consider: Although CoH was the first superhero MMORPG, the field has expanded to include two competitors with established IP (however one regards their actual success) and a third is on its way (a collaboration between a name-brand publisher and a startup studio). Even if NCSoft is OK with taking on additional competition with a new MMO in that genre, they're better off starting fresh, given the iron law that sequels never do as well as originals.

That's an interesting scenario, but in terms of subscription numbers, this would unquestionably split the community or, in a best case scenario, cause a massive migration from CoH (although the idea of people porting their characters or even retaining their precious aliases is remote). For the for the entirely hypothetical CoH/CoH2, an Asheron's Call/Asheron's Call 2 predicament - in which the sequel cannot budge the original and winds up getting cancelled after draining company resources - is entirely possible.

I'm coming around to the possibility that Kelley made some actual enemies at NBC, given the way anonymous sources are talking to the press about the apparent rejection (E! is the latest to claim their own for this news). There's a rumor that as bad as the test audience screenings went for the pilot, the one for the executives was worse.

Maybe they think being owned by Comcast will be enough.

Meanwhile, chiming in on NBC's all-but-done decision to pass, Deadline claims (again, from anonymous sources) that Kelley will shop the series to cable instead. Why do I have a feeling that the likely bidders will be Lifetime and Oxygen instead of SyFy?

The original posters had the resolve to keep the famous last scene out of the picture, but the DVD release had no such scruples. That encapsulates the difference between contemporary marketing and the old school. It's as though the entertainment industry has become so uncertain of its audience that leading with the most important element is the accepted tactic, even at the expense of surprise and suspense in watching the actual movie.

As for the current Doctor Who season, while I probably ought to have stayed away from the teaser trailer, there's no way I'm watching any video clips in any form now that things are under way. TheHawkes's comment has only strengthened my resolve.

The Hollywood Reporter has also picked up this story, citing multiple (anonymous) sources, so add that industry paper to EW and Variety in the "no" camp. The key factor emerging is that the pilot's scores among test audiences were dismal. How bad does a show have to be to get rejected by NBC?

I considered that, but I don't know of any devs with moustaches of sufficient length for a properly nefarious twirl.

Now that's simply just not helpful. The devs have at least shown some restraint and not rubbed their hands/stroked their goatees in the manner of stage villains whenever questioned about the secret existence of the much-rumored CoH2.