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Tremere, the farmers will choose the TF or SF mission (note: singular mission) that best suits their needs and just farm that, resetting as needed.

This change is a flat-out boon to farmers. I don't farm AT ALL and even I can see it.

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So, once again I ask... which TF?

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To echo what others are saying not only does this help the RMT farmers by making it easier for them to farm,

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How does this help RMT Farmers?

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As repeated several times in the thread, it gives them access to a mission they can reset indefinitely, while only padding once.

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Which mission... more accurately, which TF?

You mean STF? The one full of Arachnos?

You mean Shard? The ones full of CoT, Rularu & Nem

Yeah... most Farmers are going to avoid those.



Most ppl avoid those enemy types to begin with. Why would they want to fight an 8man spawned map full of those & bosses ontop of it. Most farmers complain about being mezzed by Family, heaven help them against Death Mages, Wisp Overlords, Fortunata Seers, Warhulks... yeah, I dont see Farmers being too excited about this.

Now thats not to say some of us wont enjoy it , but the farmer looking to maximize his influence / hour... not so much.

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Our SG is getting ready to do the Quarterfield TF starting in a few days,
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Now I'll feel like I can't drop without seriously hurting the team. I'll probably have to say I can't do the TF.


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So, why not arrange to complete the TF over a few days?

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We are doing it over a few days. That said, when my son wakes up in the night with nightmares, or my daughter wets the bed. Or when I have to suddenly run to the drug store for XYZ I have to leave for a chunk of time. There is a reality to being a gamer with a family. The family comes first. If I don't feel like I can react to these minor household emergencies (which when you have a 4 and a 6 year old your house is full of) then i can't do it.

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So, in reality you wouldnt have been able to contribute 100% to your team to begin with?!?

I'm missing something here I'm sure

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To echo what others are saying not only does this help the RMT farmers by making it easier for them to farm,

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How does this help RMT Farmers?

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Our SG is getting ready to do the Quarterfield TF starting in a few days,
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Now I'll feel like I can't drop without seriously hurting the team. I'll probably have to say I can't do the TF.


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So, why not arrange to complete the TF over a few days?

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Hmm I don´t like this.

Like others, I have had too many TF´s go bad when 1-2 DC.

Now its just doomed from the start.

Guess its a good time to end the sub, and play WOW until Conan gets released.

Was gonna stop anyways when thats out.

Not a smart move NC soft.

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YaY for DOOM & GLOOM!!!

Not just from you swartz, but from all the others!!

Seems to me that all the Doom & Gloom over ED turned out to be for nothing since in the end ED didnt destroy this game. So, give it time & see how this change plays out... you might be surprised.

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llotg's are already going for 75 mill redside. 75 mill. you think the average player can afford that? hell, lighthouse, i've been known to farm a bit (not gonna lie), and i can't afford those.

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here's a hint... then don't!!!

The prices are set by the buyers NOT the sellers. If noone is buying at a given listed price... then guess what... eventually the prices will drop

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Sorry Devs, you didn't think this one through.

Minimum TF size for the Shadowshard TF's is EIGHT. So if *anyone* drops, your still stuck with their spawns. On the longest TF's in the game.

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I'm in agreement that the requirements for the Shard TFs (and perhaps a few other oddballs) need to be addressed & and in all likelihood probably will be shortly

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The only TF being farmed like this was the Cap au Diable TF, and it was the *only* thing keeping the Villain market afloat. Without it, the prices for Class C recipes are going to SKYROCKET.

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And how is that any different from the thread after thread PRIOR to this change, that stated that the Red Side Market was already dried up.


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In truth, you actually made farming EASIER for RMT farmers. All they need to do is start a Shadowshard TF, and than they have an *unlimited* amount of 8 man spawns at their disposal.

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WOOOOOOT!!! No more "will you anchor for me" requests!!! SWEET!!! However...

1. Most Farmers spawn maps for 6 & not 8 due to the abundance of Bosses
2. Most farmers use SJ (Inertial Redux) as their only mode of transportation... good luck with that in the Shard.
3. Most farmers prefer to NOT hop from mish door to mish door, because it wastes valuable farming time.
4. Most farmers prefer the large outdoor maps, not too many of those on the Shard TFs
5. They could log out of the game and then log back in to reset a map... but how is that any different than what they do already? This changes very little in that regard

If you are going to complain about something, pick a valid example... your "you actually made farming EASIER for RMT farmers" is complete BS.


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Please revert this change. In no way does this fix any percieved problems with Task Forces, and in fact makes a good deal of Task Forces(the ones that were *already* considered un-fun) significantly more difficult.

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Um Wrong... the softloading of the Villian Respec, LRTF, STF alone warrants this change.

And its not like the NPCS don’t indicate that you need 'X' Number of players to run a TF


I'm loving this change

No, I havent read all the posts, but I suspect this hasnt been brought up yet...

Whats the verdict on this?

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Can you top this single bonus in double exp weekend? I soloed Ghost Widow and nearly got 1.5 bubbles in a single kill.

Check out the combat log

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You do realize that if your build recieves the next rounds of nerfs, you will probably be the scapegoat for why it happened because of this post.

Just thought you might want this bit of information.

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You do realize I've done this so far with Stone Armor/Super Strength (Tanker) and Fire/Fire Brute? Next is probably going to be a Corruptor. If they start nerfing, they may as well do another global nerf cause I can do this with any character.

Or they could buff AV's.

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Or the Devs can do what the really need to do & nerf the Shivan Temp power.

Grats to the Shivan for another fine display!!!

LMAO...

aparently this is soooo hard that they give you till Tuesday and they STILL dont think anyone will complete the Recluse Strike Force... LMAO

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Pets (and in particular, Imps) are screwing up the curve and keeping us from getting decent damage though.

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Allow me to dismiss this myth right now.

I have my lvl 40 Fire / Eng Dominator. And yes Imps deal very nice damage. However, there is one thing most of you are overlooking. Something that I hope the devs take into account. Dominator's are NOT at their fullest potential till they have Domination qued. Imps dealing massive damage means less damage my Dom can dish out. Ultimately it means longer I have to go before my Domnination bar is charged to full. I suppose in a sick & twisted way its a trade off, but still. Nice to know that as soon as I summon my imps I just shot myself in the foot as far as charging my Domination bar goes.

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Also, the whole 'expected to be in melee combat without any mez defense, shields, and low HP' thing is still a little odd.

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My thoughts exactly.

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Maybe Dominators just need a 3x PvP damage boost when the target is under the effect of a Break Free. We can call this new inherent "How Dare You?!"

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LMAO BEST IDEA EVER!!!!! Devs give Dominators 3x dmg when a person is under the effects of BFs. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.... roflmao


6.7% dmg increase.... to Freakin melee attacks? you gotta be kidding me? Right? Please tell me thats a typo, or maybe there is a part 2 comming.

Beef_Cake,

My comment wasn't directed at you perse. You just happen to be the most recent to post such a comment. My post is more or less addressed to everyone who feels this implementation is too much.

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But would be nice is if the spawn timer were reduced some because as it stands now, you will be lucky to get 1-2 kills a day. And to kill 100 of them is a long way away from getting this badge. So you are looking at 2 months or more depending if you get exactly 2 kills a day.


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I see NO problem with the spawn rate as it currently stands. It took me 2+ months to redo all the levels when I rerolled. So, this is perfect compensation. When are you all going to realize this? The way its designed right this minute is to factor in all the pain & suffering that those of us who choose reroll had to go through. Period. End of discussion. I (being one of the adamant anti-isolator crowd) and very pleased with this implementation. Deal.

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It has become apparent that Deathless, the 4th debt badge, is required for the High Pain Threshhold accolade.

Please don't do this. Some of us actually try NOT to die in this game

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Guess I should post on the offical thread as well.

My sediments exactly. Please do not make Deathless a requirement for this accolade. If anything, make it the 1st or 2nd debt badge, but please not the 4th

I too pride myself on not dieing. After all I grew up on arcade games where everytime you died you have to put a quarter into the machine to continue. Its a habit Ive adopted and I strive to play all games the same way. Thus I avoid debt as much as possible. Always have and always will.

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Well if you had run around blowing up everything and destroying everything I think you would have gotten a AV version of some hero.
I dont think you ever get a Boss hero except maby in the low levels but then again Im not sure.

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Well allow me to add my 2 cents. I just ran my first Mayhem Mission (sorry, had been working on the 4th debt badge for the past few days )

Anyways I was running it with my MM on Relentless and destroying everything in site. Had completed 2 side quests and was about to enter my 3rd. Time at this point was down to 16min. Upon clicking the 3rd side quest door, the mission locked up and CoV crashed. After the game verified image and reloaded and then rezoned. I was down to 5 min. So I hauled to the bank thinking I may still have a chance. After blowing the vault door and grabbing the loot, Overhaul comes. She conned as a +3 Boss. Remember, I'm on Relentless but this time around I hadnt touched a single thing. NOTHING. Not even a single box. Just ran straight to the vault (even bypassed the guards in the lobby).

So I think there may be some merit to the Boss / EB / AV depending on how much of a rucus you create. Either that or I got damn lucky with just a boss on Relentless

So,

Demonic, it appears that its not an Accolade that most of us are familar with from CoH side. It has no clickable power. It doesnt show up in the power listings like accolade powers do. It mentions that it provides protection from all damage, yet how does one activate it? Did I miss something or is this a new kind of accolade that we are going to need to figure out how to get it to work? Does anyone with this Accolade have the clickable power for it?

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I personally feel that my dom rocks in PVE, and when I fail, I can usually identify a specific mistake that caused the failure


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I dont disagree. My Fire / Eng dom ROCKS in PvE... SOLO. As we have stated many times over on the Dominator Forums: the general CoV crowd frowns upon teaming with a Dominator. Mainly cause they are ill informed of what we are capable of. We have sort of a bad rep on Live.

The fact is the vast majority of any combination of Primary / Secondary from any CoV AT will outperform all but the best Dominators (players not FOTMs, lmao like a dom set would be FOTM).... UNTILL Domination is up and running. Then (and only then) do we as an AT truely shine and ppl take notice. However, most of us have gotten to the point where we sit on a fully charged Domination bar. This isnt helping us one bit. Why? Simple, ppl arent seeing what we are truely capable of. Now if Domination recharged quicker AND it was easier to charge the bar.... then less Dominators would sit on a full bar and would be more inclined to actually use thier Inherent. Eventually ppl would start to take notice of what we are capable of.

Ofcourse the other option is to keep Domination as is and just boost the AT as a whole, as others have stated.

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Something needs to be done, dominator population is low and sinking. Even with the changes dominators are still little more than fodder in pvp.

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I fully expect to get flamed for saying this (because I have been saying the same thing and getting flamed for it for 3-4 months now) but doms really need to present a united front to the devs in saying that we need changes. As long as the dom board presents a happy world where everything is wonderful and naysayers get flamed till their toenails are curling, we are not likely to be high on the priority list for buffs.

FivefifteenA

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And yet you STILL dont get it. We dont need a complete overhaul like you think. What we need is some tweaks. VIABLE Tweaks. No reducing the recharge time on Domination IS NOT a viable tweak. Thats the problem. Period.

Increased Damage
Increased charging of Dom bar (maybe 4pts per attack in PvE)
Increased control duration
Increased mag or perhaps the controllers 2nd inherent (the ability to crit on a hold)

Any of these would have been viable solutions for PvE... we got none.

Complete overhaul of the AT, nope.. wrong way to go about it. Viable tweaks... Yes!!!

Shame we are still waiting for them

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But still, we're a support AT! Somehow.

Oh wait...I see what s/he means now. We support the team by contributing a little bit of damage, quite unlike every other AT in the Isles.

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Not quite... the answer lies in one word... " Vengeance "

Corruptor: (to team) Ok guys I got this kick [censored] buff that boosts damage, accuracy, AND defense.... its fully slotted out and will turn us all into gods while its active. Only down side is that it requires a sacrifice to trigger.

(rest of team takes one step back leaving the dominator in the front)

Dominator: Oh not again!!! <beep> That!!!

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Oh and to clarify. I do not mean on another character created after badges went live. I do not mean deleting and re-creating as this is another form of being a new character. One created after Issue 2. This has been my point over and over again. And this is where we disagree.

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I beg to differ, we do agree. I dont think any toon created after the 1yr anv deserves that badge, nor any toon after the halloween event, nor any toon created post any event. Isolator is only different in that its placement was in the tutorial. So how do you overcome that, simple... create a new toon. No toon post the 1yr anv will ever have that badge, just like no toon created pre-I2 will have isolator.

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Asking someone to sacrifice the time the put into a character and start over is unreasonable and unacceptable.

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So all you have is one lvl 50 and thats it? Not a single other toon (CoH side that is)? Because starting another toon and working towards 50 is no different... now or then By your own philosophy once you have one 50 then any new toon you create should instantly become 50 as well otherwise it'd be unreasonable & unacceptable

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Not sure what hole you pulled that logic out of. So you are assuming that I have one level 50. I like the way twist someone's statement to fit your needs.

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I didnt twist anything... acording to you..
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Asking someone to sacrifice the time the put into a character and start over is unreasonable and unacceptable.

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Anytime you start a new character you are sacrificing time.. the time to lvl up to 50 through content you have already experienced... With ONE cavet.... you get to expereince whatever has been newly added since you last lvld a toon to 50. Case in point, it would have been Isolator badge. Deal. I didnt twist anything... just using your own logic. If you are willing to lvl a new toon to 50 (as you state since you say you have more than one 50) then why not lvl a toon to 50 starting at I2? Or did I miss something?

People, people, people.... you all had a choice to make at I2... earn Isolator or not... Burnin Up you choose not to. Why punish those who did?

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Asking someone to sacrifice the time the put into a character and start over is unreasonable and unacceptable.

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So all you have is one lvl 50 and thats it? Not a single other toon (CoH side that is)? Because starting another toon and working towards 50 is no different... now or then By your own philosophy once you have one 50 then any new toon you create should instantly become 50 as well otherwise it'd be unreasonable & unacceptable