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I see how it is. If you don't post for a while, people stop praising you!

Well I'll show you! I'll show you all!

...later.

Tee. Heehee.

Hibernate's overpowered?

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but I do take objection to your "I'm a positive person and I'm not complaining because I can log in, maybe you should stop being so defeatist! " condescension.

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Actually, I wasn't being condescending. I was responding to this:
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Honestly, though, why should we accept shoddy products just because others are also producing them? I can't play my Illusion/Kinetics Controller right now because he crashes constantly. The global channels are bugged. Bases kick you out at random intervals. Invincibility was bugged, offering triple DEF, and sets were balanced around this ability which was subsequently fixed with no commensurate fix to the sets. I don't need my enjoyment "destroyed" in order to point out this process is not assuring quality.

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There are plenty of people playing the game that are still enjoying it just fine, even with the problems you described. However, since I don't like to speak for other people, I try to use only my own experience as an example. If that came across in a way I did not intend, then I apologize. I try to state my opinion and have respect for others with an opposing view point at the same time. It doesn't always broadcast that way.

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It sounded condescending and dismissive, like many of the "I'm okay, so all is okay" posts.

Cheerfully withdrawn!

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Sometimes even the gods dance with mortals.

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I'm good like that.

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Shall we foxtrot now?

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Honestly, though, why should we accept shoddy products just because others are also producing them? I can't play my Illusion/Kinetics Controller right now because he crashes constantly. The global channels are bugged. Bases kick you out at random intervals. Invincibility was bugged, offering triple DEF, and sets were balanced around this ability which was subsequently fixed with no commensurate fix to the sets.

I don't need my enjoyment "destroyed" in order to point out this process is not assuring quality.

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And yet I'm still able to log into every one of my many many characters and have a great time playing this game. You seem to be the one with the defeatist attitude, or at least a very negative one. I tend to keep a rather positive one, myself.

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Are you sure “defeatist” means what you think it does? I’m determined to hold the QA team to account for letting things slip through far too often. You’re resigned to accepting things as they are. How am I defeatist for not being able to play a character due to a bug?

And, you know, your statement would make me very happy if my enjoyment of the game was derived from you being alright, but sadly, selfishly, I only garner enjoyment from playing it myself.

Seriously: Do you hear yourself? “I can log in, so what’s the problem?” Who gives a rat’s sewer-drenched tail about you? Go tell the people in this thread that they’re being defeatist because you can log in and have a great time. See if you get as polite a response as I’ve offered.

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Also, pointing out that the test server population caught bugs that made it through QA doesn't surprise me when you think about the active test population. Might make for a good argument if we had any idea how many bugs are caught by the QA teams. Then you'd have enough information to make a valid ratio. Until then you're just numbering yourself among the many that remember all the mistakes and seemingly log them just to chuck them out in threads that make it convenient.

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It doesn’t matter what population difference there is. Simple things like whether a power is applying the appropriate debuff or not aren’t reliant upon large-scale testing.

We aren’t talking little text error, or maybe something lasting for 3.5 seconds instead of 3. A proper QA suite should have tools set up to help them notice things like, say, glaring decimal errors (50 instead of 5) or, y’know, if you’re fighting +7s and doing just dandy, common sense dictating that something's up.

In the end, though, I don’t care what you think. There’s plenty of evidence that something’s rotten in the state of Denmark, whether you want to admit to having seen the ghost of dead king’s walking around or not.

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I didn't say everything regarding their process was peachy happy sunshine la-la land, nor did I say that the things wrong should be left unfixed. I just don't think that you and others whining about their internal processes makes one tiny bit of difference. The process will change or stay the same, regardless of whether you like it or not. To think otherwise is to allow yourself a few more notches on the importance totem then you're really worthy of. There's a big difference between being resigned to accepting things as they are and being patient enough to wait for the fixes to come down the pipe.

Seriously: Do you hear yourself? My point of view is invalid because you do not agree with it, yet yours is somehow visionary to the point that it garners more importance.

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I never said your point of view was invalid. I never really *said* anything about it. I will now, though: It's shortsighted, and completely selfish. Understand now, I'm not talking about whether or not you think Cryptic's QA is hunky-dory, or if they're doing a terrible job. I'm talking about your, "Well, I can log in, so what's your problem?" statement.

You're welcome to think that the QA department is whatever, just as I'm welcome to take them to task over it where I can, but I do take objection to your "I'm a positive person and I'm not complaining because I can log in, maybe you should stop being so defeatist! " condescension.

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I'll dance a forum ballet with you all day if you really want to, although, if you truly don't care what I think it's a bit odd you take the time to respond to me at all.

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Sometimes even the gods dance with mortals.

You're welome, Pep. Feel free to stick Pep's crush du jour into the heart-shaped bubble!

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That's a very defeatist attitude, and wholly ignores the fact that major bugs have repeatedly "squeaked" through QA, only to be caught almost immediately by the playerbase on Test, then often to once again "squeak" through to live.

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This happens because bugs reported only on the forums are prioritized below all bugs found by QA - apparently this is required by NCSoft and was noted in a Dev post recently (I think it was Positron's, yep, found it). They basically have to work on their lunch hour or on a weekend to fix anything players find, it seems...

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So, again, the question is: Are the Cryptic coders just so painfully bad that QA is overworked, or is QA just not invested in the game enough?

Or maybe they just don't have enough staff.

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Honestly, though, why should we accept shoddy products just because others are also producing them? I can't play my Illusion/Kinetics Controller right now because he crashes constantly. The global channels are bugged. Bases kick you out at random intervals. Invincibility was bugged, offering triple DEF, and sets were balanced around this ability which was subsequently fixed with no commensurate fix to the sets.

I don't need my enjoyment "destroyed" in order to point out this process is not assuring quality.

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And yet I'm still able to log into every one of my many many characters and have a great time playing this game. You seem to be the one with the defeatist attitude, or at least a very negative one. I tend to keep a rather positive one, myself.

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Are you sure “defeatist” means what you think it does? I’m determined to hold the QA team to account for letting things slip through far too often. You’re resigned to accepting things as they are. How am I defeatist for not being able to play a character due to a bug?

And, you know, your statement would make me very happy if my enjoyment of the game was derived from you being alright, but sadly, selfishly, I only garner enjoyment from playing it myself.

Seriously: Do you hear yourself? “I can log in, so what’s the problem?” Who gives a rat’s sewer-drenched tail about you? Go tell the people in this thread that they’re being defeatist because you can log in and have a great time. See if you get as polite a response as I’ve offered.

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Also, pointing out that the test server population caught bugs that made it through QA doesn't surprise me when you think about the active test population. Might make for a good argument if we had any idea how many bugs are caught by the QA teams. Then you'd have enough information to make a valid ratio. Until then you're just numbering yourself among the many that remember all the mistakes and seemingly log them just to chuck them out in threads that make it convenient.

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It doesn’t matter what population difference there is. Simple things like whether a power is applying the appropriate debuff or not aren’t reliant upon large-scale testing.

We aren’t talking little text error, or maybe something lasting for 3.5 seconds instead of 3. A proper QA suite should have tools set up to help them notice things like, say, glaring decimal errors (50 instead of 5) or, y’know, if you’re fighting +7s and doing just dandy, common sense dictating that something's up.

In the end, though, I don’t care what you think. There’s plenty of evidence that something’s rotten in the state of Denmark, whether you want to admit to having seen the ghost of dead king’s walking around or not.

Not my fault! I just post here. These mooks are the ones dirtying it up!

Also, I forgot to post this yesterday: Pep Rally Swoons!

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No, it isn't. Maybe it's doing better than some other MMOs, but either the QA team here is crap, or the Cryptic coders are so woefully slapdash as to make the QA department overworked. The list of very major and very easily caught bugs that they've overlooked is surprising.

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I've played a lot of different games and the bug list here doesn't seem to be any larger then they are elsewhere, at least in my experience. There will always be bugs, both big and small, no matter how good their QA departments are at either Cryptic or NCSoft, and who knows what exactly needs to be done to correct the seemingly easily caught ones that squeak their way through. If it's not destroying your ability to enjoy the game, I'd vote for patience.

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That's a very defeatist attitude, and wholly ignores the fact that major bugs have repeatedly "squeaked" through QA, only to be caught almost immediately by the playerbase on Test, then often to once again "squeak" through to live.

(At this juncture, it's standard operating to bring up the +7 enemy debacle on the internal test server, the -50% Unyielding DEF, and then move onto the slew of other issues, some of which the Devs have apologised for, and then vowed to do better with in future...)

Honestly, though, why should we accept shoddy products just because others are also producing them? I can't play my Illusion/Kinetics Controller right now because he crashes constantly. The global channels are bugged. Bases kick you out at random intervals. Invincibility was bugged, offering triple DEF, and sets were balanced around this ability which was subsequently fixed with no conmensurate fix to the sets.

I don't need my enjoyment "destroyed" in order to point out this process is not assuring quality.

Note to Castle: proceed to QA department. Facilitate communication. Terminate hostilities.

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Whoa. Those Stalkers I've seen with that patron are going to be TICKED when that happens and no respeccing out of it. yeesh!

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Unless they're like.. eight years old, I really don't have an ounce of pity for anyone who takes that spin on this. Someone had to have been nuts to think that the current behavior was intended or balanced. That it would be corrected was so totally obvious to me it's just not funny.

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Even an eight-year-old should know better than to want to play checkers vs. an opponent who only gets three pieces.

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To other posts after yours, the QA team may have some issues and made some bad mistakes since launch, but it's still head and shoulders above other major companies. That doesn't mean some of their more painful messups are ok, but it should still be considered when general slams are going to be issued.

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No, it isn't. Maybe it's doing better than some other MMOs, but either the QA team here is crap, or the Cryptic coders are so woefully slapdash as to make the QA department overworked. The list of very major and very easily caught bugs that they've overlooked is surprising.

And, yes, a hold that essentially has no counter qualifies in my book as a pretty major bug.

Good luck with everything, Pep. For your enjoyment: Pep swoons!

Feel free to add a picture of today's favourite crush in the bubble!

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But what would surprise me is if it was a bug for Ghost Widow and that we should be able to BF out of hers and they fix it so we can. That'll shock the hell out of me. 'Cause, see, then it wouldn't be har... uhh... I mean fun enough.

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Since the bug is in the animation, not the power, any fix will affect Ghost Widow's power, as well as the patron power version.

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Colour me shocked.

And my faith somewhat restored.

Thank-you, Castle.

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Colour me shocked.

And my lack of faith in Cryptic's QA process still irredeemably shattered.

Seriously, somebody fire them and be done with it.

Mostly about how awesome I am, with a side order of how flexible TA apparently is.

Hmm. I'd prefer it if you didn't blow yourself in my thread, please...

See? That'll teach you to go on vacation. You missed Star and my sketches!

I did it today when I should've been working!

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oOOooo yellow for the background is a good thought!!! I'll try to find a yellow crayon that scans well. I was trying something new with the background (I used regular sketch paper for it so I couldn't do my usual watercolor background) and it just didn't come out right

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Now, what did I tell you about forearms? It's a great drawing and all, but her forearms came out looking like she had some massively poofy metal like cuffs covering her forearms...

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I hate you.

I ALSO hate those big metal arms!!!! *shakes fist* Whenever I would see those in the character creator I'd always think "Who in the hell would use THOSE?" Well apparently half the people on the art forums!!! Die giant football arms! DIE!!!

[/ QUOTE ]Giant football arms are classic anime styles!

Hmm. Forgot the scarf!

Oh well: Dragonberry!

DB art coming soon in my thread!

Okay, I wasn't sure what Dragonberry's costume looks like, so she's kinda nude...

Coming soon!

I did it a little while back, when I was doing Starchasm's drawing, actually. I was doing some tweaks to the lineart when my old thread got disappeared.

I figured you probably had enough pictures of Thor fighting and such, so I thought I'd do one of him at the moment where he was gifted with the powers of Thor.

Feel free to add it to the grand gallery.

Zoinks. I forgot to post this one way back: Thor's Assassin in Avatar of Thor