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-Rachel-

When the Stone Temple Pilots changed their name from Mighty Joe Young they did not magically become a new group of people. They still had played the songs from their Demo.

When Kara's Flowers added a guitarist they renamed themselves Maroon 5. They are still the people they were before.

When Cole was crowned Emperor 25 years ago the remnants of organized crime joined together to become the Syndicate. 15 years ago when being Psychic became a faux pas and Tub Ci faked his death the Syndicate started sucking up psychics. It did not magically become a group of people put together by Cole and his Regime. They did not magically -stop- being criminals for 30 seconds before starting up again making themselves criminals AFTER the fact.

Please, Venture, put me on ignore. Because that's where you're going.

-Rachel-

When you broaden the terms that far you make everything the direct result of everything else that has ever happened.

You're blaming escalation on one half of the people involved and saying "Damn any other argument". Every action has an equal and opposite reaction is true. Mm Hmm. Yup. Which means the Syndicate helped to create itself. The actions of the government did not happen in a vaccuum after all.

However, organized crime existed BEFORE Praetoria existed. Cole's response to their existence may have ESCALATED the conflict, but it didn't -create- the conflict.

Want to go back further? The Syndicate is the fault of the US Government of Praetorian Earth, since that was the inception of the Mafia as we know it, today. Oh! And the various groups which spat on the Hmong.

You can go alllllll the way back the causal chain if you like, Venture. But the Syndicate were criminals before Praetoria was a twinkle in Cole's eye. The regime did not create the Syndicate. It just helped them Coalesce. The Mafia did not become something else after the Prohibition. They were still the Mafia.

-Rachel-

Don't forget Warrant! He dies in one of the power arcs, too!

-Rachel-

So! You accept and admit that Organized crime entering the nation is not created by the government, and accept that the changes the group undergoes in the nation are not the fault of the government at hand?

Then the Syndicate is not a creation of Praetoria. But the remnants of Organized Crime pooling their resources and using the latest "Tool" to make themselves stronger against the police force.

-Rachel-

Read This and tell me how it sounds. It doesn't read as "Psychics trying to avoid being eaten" it reads as "Generic Criminal Group"
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-Rachel-

Correlation does not equate to causation. The "Syndicate" formed because Cole and his people set out a better equipped and more capable squad of officers to police the streets. They were still criminals before that. Everything that happened after that was a matter of escalation. The Seer Program started, psychics who became outlaws used their powers to hide and the Syndicate worked with them, becoming better hidden against the Police force's new tool: Psychic Detection.

The US Government didn't create the Mafia. Criminals banded together because they were stronger together than alone. They were criminals before they banded together, they're still criminals.

The sale of Ice Cream and the number of shark attacks across the globe both increase during summer months. That doesn't mean sharks are attacking people for the ice-cream on their fingers.

-Rachel-

They only recruit people with psychic potential. Not psychics. There is a difference. A person with psychic potential may never realize their ability. A Psychic has psychic ability.


Just as immaterial. They were criminals before that law was put into place. Your statement was wrong in that you described them as -created- by the government. they were not. They were criminals before it was fashionable.

Yipee hurray? He was still the leader of the Tsoo. Meaning he was a Criminal before 15 years ago he faked his death. Meaning the government of Praetoria did not "create" his criminal nature or involvement in the Syndicate. You continue to be appallingly and shockingly wrong in your assertion that the Praetorian Government "Created" the Syndicate.

-Rachel-

You are so incredibly wrong that you've broken reality. Congratulations, you have divided by Wrong.

Unlike you, however, I'll tell you -why- you're wrong. The Syndicate -CONTAINS- Psychics, Venture. Might even have some psychics in charge. But the Syndicate is composed of Tsoo and Mooks and other organized crime gangs bunching together to keep out of prison.

Big difference, between being composed of and containing.

-Rachel-

Sadly, I'm incapable of Catfighting. =-(

My father was a Drill Sergeant and taught me how to fight early on, in case some boy got me alone somewhere... Plus I'm 6'3" tall. >.>

-Rachel-

I've got her on ignore... But everyone freaking QUOTES her... So even on Ignore it's right -theeeeeeeeeere-

-Rachel-

Like how she takes a single line out of a large post with various points and paragraphs of explanation, then tosses off a "Cutesy" one-liner with an infuriating smiley face at the end to show her superiority complex?

Ayep.

-Rachel-

The Civil War started over Capitalism. The North wanted higher tariffs on cotton, wheat, textile/food exports with lower tariffs on machinery or other goods. The south (while larger) was less populated by the north and felt threatened by the democratic superiority of the Northern states. Secession was the alternative. The Abolition of Slavery was a minor issue in the greater scheme of the war.

World War 2 was inspired by Capitalism. After WW1 Germany was in the greatest economic depression it's ever seen. Hitler and his national Socialist Party came into power because people wanted better money-handling methods and practices. However, Hitler's "Socialist" regime was hardly socialism. All it did was give him greater power after he eliminated all other political threats and started consolidating power as the Chancellor of Germany. Greed and Capitalism lead to his rise, since most people couldn't get -jobs- outside of Germany if they had german blood.

Every War Britain has Ever gotten into has been based on Capitalistic greed. Whether it's taking over the Ivory Coast or trying to reclaim the American Colonies due to the large amounts of cash they and the companies under the monarchy were raking in from the goods shipped in.

Yeah... pol pot and Stalin weren't capitalists. But they also weren't Socialists, according to the original meaning and intent of the word.

The best example of true Socialism in action would be the Native Americans and other tribal people throughout history. The Hunters hunt, the Gatherers Gather, everyone works and everyone is better off for it. If someone is sick or injured they are tended while the work goes on around them. In a Capitalist Society the injured or ill just don't earn any cash during the time they're not working.

-Rachel-