Solun_the_Hunter

I just think it is one of the hardest things to die on.

Even people who are bad at the game can survive on a Tanker and that's why many play as one.

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I just came back after 1 1/2 years and pvp is so much worse with all the nerfs, everything I have is getting owned by corruptors stalkers and doms.

ok.....
My ice/stone melee used to own but now it can't even kill a corruptor. I stood toe to toe with a sonic thermal and it killed me so fast, the damage I was doing was so poor.

If not a tank what FOTM pvp class is good now? this new pvp system is so horrible =[

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fire/ss

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Elf needs to work on his manners, you guys are a perfect example of why PvP is dead, who would want to put up with your childish B@@@ S@@@. You can own us all, good for you, glad it makes you feel manly.

If you want more people to PvP, you need to start treating others with a little respect!

Go ahead with the insults, i wont bore myself with coming back to this thread.

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Wow.......lol.

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A /Poison can beat a /Storm if Envenom hit with Powerbuild up.

Usually if you take tactics and have your pets slotted for a good amount of ACC you can overcome the -ToHit.

Yes storm is strong, but no it is not invincible.

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Who cares how accurate your pets are if they are all over the place from tornado's/lightning storms/hurricane pushing?

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Only mastermind to give my necro/storm trouble so far was another necro/storm. I've fought a fair number of darks, poisons, and traps, although admittedly most of them weren't that great. Hurricane really messes pets up though if the MM doesn't have some kinda of aoe -defense though... so much so that I usually don't even have to heal my pets anymore.

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Ok that's what I figured. I didn't believe what these other guys were saying about "ANY SECONDARY AND PRIMARY IS OK LOL". That just isn't how pvp works.

Positronbot, you say you do fine with /dark and I'm sure you do. You are a good player I'm sure and you have more IOs on that /dark than I could ever imagine. And yet you got trounced by a /storm TROLLER. Not even a /storm MM who would have even more damage and offense than a troller.

So /storm trumps the other secondaries.

And I know damn well that every primary doesn't do fine against every other primary. Ninjas would get mowed down by bots or thugs, even though they are great against single targets, probably the best there is.


My guess would be thugs/storm or bots/storm would beat any other MM. Just not sure whether thugs or bots would be top.


I can't believe some of you are actually going to sit and say that anything works with anything against anything...


We are talking equal skill levels and sets here, just pure what pet/secondary trumps what, and YES SOME TRUMP OTHERS.

That is reality.

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In a sense, no thats not how pvp works. You're right. But also, a great pvp player can beat a mediocre pvp player even with a lesser build. I definitely think /storm is one of the better 1v1 secondaries for MM, as I said earlier. But it IS beatable by other MM with proper strategy. The first time I played the /storm troller, he beat me 5-0, second time, 2-0 (and no, I didnt just RUN more ). I learned from my mistakes and found ways to over come some of his -acc. Also, a trollers -acc from hurricane is greater than a MM. To say that a /storm MM would be much harder to beat than a /storm troller isn't quite true.

Also, to say Ninjas would get mowed down by bots or thugs is definitely inaccurate. Like I said, its how you play the set. I would be hard pressed to agree that one build is gonna trump another. Anything doesn't work against anything, but played well you can make a lot of MM sets very good at pvp.

ive also since played other storm trollers and defenders (i know, dont count) and have beat each one. I do think a ninja/storm or thug/storm or merc/storm would be a great pvp build though.

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Hmm. I believe what you say but I just find it hard to imagine that a non-storm MM can beat a /storm MM.

But like I said though I'm only talking about equal skills here. Of course a good /dark would beat a bad /storm.

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Only mastermind to give my necro/storm trouble so far was another necro/storm. I've fought a fair number of darks, poisons, and traps, although admittedly most of them weren't that great. Hurricane really messes pets up though if the MM doesn't have some kinda of aoe -defense though... so much so that I usually don't even have to heal my pets anymore.

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Ok that's what I figured. I didn't believe what these other guys were saying about "ANY SECONDARY AND PRIMARY IS OK LOL". That just isn't how pvp works.

Positronbot, you say you do fine with /dark and I'm sure you do. You are a good player I'm sure and you have more IOs on that /dark than I could ever imagine. And yet you got trounced by a /storm TROLLER. Not even a /storm MM who would have even more damage and offense than a troller.

So /storm trumps the other secondaries.

And I know damn well that every primary doesn't do fine against every other primary. Ninjas would get mowed down by bots or thugs, even though they are great against single targets, probably the best there is.


My guess would be thugs/storm or bots/storm would beat any other MM. Just not sure whether thugs or bots would be top.


I can't believe some of you are actually going to sit and say that anything works with anything against anything...


We are talking equal skill levels and sets here, just pure what pet/secondary trumps what, and YES SOME TRUMP OTHERS.

That is reality.

I have a question for everyone keeping up with the thread.


What MM would be the best against all other MM's?

It seems like people like poisons pains and darks but can any of them keep up with the disruption from a /storm?

Seems like /storm MM would beat any other secondary MM if skill levels were equal just due to disruption?

Thoughts?

What primary usually tops other primaries in direct battle? Thugs or Bots?