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That is part of where "respect for the leader" comes in... If the player doesn't respect the leader, then they are ill-suited to being on that team. Either the impatient person finds another team or settles down.

If they aren't functioning as a part of the team, it is the leader's responsibility to establish order by instruction. If instruction fails, then it is the leader's responsibility to remove them from the equation (ie. remove them from the trial and don't invite them back until they show that they can act as a part of a team).

Have you ever bothered to ask? I'm serious here. Learning a trial is just as much your responsibility as a player as it is the leader's responsibility for leading the trial. One thing I nearly always do is ask if players have any questions before and after a trial. If someone walks away with not knowing how an aspect of the trial works, that is their fault, not mine.

Expecting detailed instructions during a timed phase is unreasonable. Especially basic instructions like use this Temp power on X. Everywhere else in the game has temp powers, and if people can't understand that by level 50, they really shouldn't be playing the game.

On the flip side, that is no excuse for being rude about it. If the player, after being told how to use the temp power then still doesn't understand, then they SHOULD be told to pass it to someone else. After the trial, the person that doesn't know what the temp power is for should then ask the trial leader about it after the trial is over.

Trial leaders are human, but so are you. If you want to do the content, you should at least familiarize yourself as to the basics of the trial. if you don't want to put that tiny bit of effort in, then you have no right to ask a league leader to make up for your deficiency.

The information I was talking about (team size) is, get this, IN THE GAME. You don't have to go to any other source (though it would be nice if you did).

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And people are still dumb enough to try to form an ITF with less than 6 players. I avoid those leaders like the plague. Why? Because experience has shown me that this type of leader will make the ITF a 90+ minute task force with a strong chance of failure.

And what about the official documentation? Is that also "optional"? How about the in-game information (posted above)? At what point do you draw the line as to who is qualified to lead a trial?

If the leader isn't willing or able to read the basic in-game documentation or the official documentation* for the trial, then they shouldn't lead it.

* Official documentation sources:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/game_updates/

BAF:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/g.../baf_guide.php

Lambda:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/g...ctor_guide.php

Keyes:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/g...land_guide.php

Underground:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/g...ound_guide.php

MoM:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/g...yhem_guide.php

TPN:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/g...mpus_guide.php

Dilemma Diabolique:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/g...tegy_guide.php

The only incarnate Trial without an official guide is the Magisterium which is a combination of the previous trials.

There are numerous guides (the guides section, paragonwiki), official documents (both in and out of game), and people you can ask. Ignorance is fixable. However until you are willing to learn you can't fix it.

Here is the thing though: That basic information (league size) is shown as you move your cursor over the trial in the LFG window. Not to mention numerous guides, official guides on the website and paragonwiki. For a leader to be ignorant of the league size shows an amount of willful negligence that borders on the insane. It also shows that the leader isn't willing to put forth minimal effort to understand content that is radically different from the rest of the game.

Task forces and non-incarnate trial are far more tolerant of mistakes than the most basic Incarnate Trial. Treating an Incarnate Trial like the rest of the game is a recipe for disaster. Sure, you might get lucky, but chances are you won't. Worse, you won't know why the trial failed.

I'm talking about mid-trial cutscenes as well here. And the same check that allows the cutscene to be skipped could automatically trigger whatever comes next. That is elementary school programming, and if they couldn't do that, I'd question their capacity for doing the job they are paid for.

I remember them saying what you did in the edit, but that isn't what I'm talking about here.

Example of what I'm saying:
I start an ITF with a timer (30 minutes, 60 minutes, etc), number of deaths, various debuffs, and set "Enable Cutscene" to "Disabled".

During the ITF instead of hearing what Romy is going to do to our lands and seeing him get combined with a Nictus, the WHOLE TEAM doesn't see the cutscene. No one. It wouldn't be played at all. There wouldn't be an issue where one player didn't see the cutscene and seven others did.

Yes, either/both of those help.

Basic stupidity check for trial leaders. If they don't know these, do not join their groups. Instead make your own group and invite them to your own (or find something else to do). This information is available in the LFG window, if they can't be bothered to read the help text for the trial they are launching, the trial will have an extreme chance of failure.

I have to get stronger in my discouragement of people trying to join tougher trials with unsuited toons.

This is a learning process.

• Communication.
• Knowledge of the trial.
• Being observant. Be on the lookout for potential problems, and try to minimize them before they fail the trial.
• Being respected (maybe not liked, but that helps) enough for people to actually listen to your instructions.
• Be firm with people trying to disrupt the trial due to lack of listening to instructions (when they are clear) or purposely griefing the league.

1. Actually the consensus I get is by announcing what type of trial I'm running then letting people decide if they want to join.
2. I do that frequently. I still find new people from time to time.
3. Yes, it does help if you know what you are doing. I generally try to read up on the trial and do a few trials where I'm not the leader to get a feel for the trial before leading.
4. I do a mix of both. For the Underground, I don't even bother giving up front detailed instructions as I figure people will have forgotten them when they are going to be useful.
5. After repeated blatant acts of rebellion on a players part as well as a number of warnings (by not only myself as league leader, but also by other players), I will tend to call for a kick vote. I've done this less than 5 times. At that point I also -stop- leading trials after the current run so that I can calm down. You can only be polite to a point. After that, if a player is causing a disruption, they need to be dealt with in a firm manner.

My response:





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_MaJDK3VNE

Check out this paragonwiki link for possible bind hooks:
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/List_of_Key_Names

Tried 2 regular badge runs of Magi on Triumph tonight with both being hit by this. The second run someone deliberately ignored the league leader's instructions, and they likely won't be invited back to any trial badge runs when we find the person(s). Thankfully someone had a demorecord.

And thus the challenge of this. I've already made 2 different memes and will likely come up with more before the contest. I've thought of a bunch more that I refuse to make (My Little Ponies) and I am likely going to have to throw out a few more concepts that fit the parameters of the contest.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-cake-is-a-lie

You know, his plans never work.

Just remember, there will be cake.

I know. I was just pointing out that resetting wasn't working for me.

I think we can put our differences behind us... for science... you monster.

I'm getting that. Thank you very much for following this up!

My current Plan "B" if all else fails is to view the stream with my laptop and use my IRC client on my desktop. I might do that anyway as it allows me to surf the forums while watching.

Yeah, I looked in the global settings.

Edit:
This seems to have worked. I hope it works for the live stream as well.

Edit 2:
Sigh... Yup, nvidia/flash 10 hardware acceleration issue.

That I haven't tried yet. I'll do that.

(edit: Vista & Win 7 don't allow that setting.)

The BSoD kindly did that for me 3 times.

#1: At some point, it is going to happen anyway.
#2: No.
#3: In a worst-case scenario, I'll abduct the computer I just built for my parents.
#4: I'm not sure I know where that is.
#5: As per the Evil Overlord rule list, I always have a 5 year old advisor. Note: I don't pay them, but keep them around for testing ablative shielding.
#6: I'm sure that would violate the 959 mile restraining order. (I'm in the process of getting my Passport. )

I'm pretty sure the memory isn't an issue as CoH routinely uses all available memory (and more) without the same signs.

Nope, that wasn't it.

Edit:
Much, much older meme.

So, vodka soda?

Wow, you might have found a way to clear out Virtue's Pocket D (a wretched hive of scum and villainy ). But is it 20% cooler?

This, and more info, was in the "Consolidated Issue 23 Badge Info." thread...

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=290403