Slapshot623

Thanks for the response Local Man, i haven't had time to make your changes yet (just got home from work) but ill try posting the links again for you. Also in your controller experience should I build for the perma mes protection or the ranged def softcap?

Psionic mastery

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...8FFE0F93D30C58

Mace mastery

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...12FD2FB6291187

So I've got two builds on mids for my plant/storm and was wondering which would be better overall.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.953
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Level 50 Technology Controller
Primary Power Set: Plant Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Strangler -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(5), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(7)
Level 1: Gale -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Roots -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(7), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Posi-Dmg/Rng(19), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 6: Recall Friend -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 8: Seeds of Confusion -- CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(A), CoPers-Conf%(9), CoPers-Conf(9), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(11), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(11), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(15)
Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(13), RedFtn-Def(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(17), RedFtn-EndRdx(19), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(21)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A), Zephyr-ResKB(43)
Level 16: Freezing Rain -- RechRdx-I(A), Achilles-ResDeb%(40), ImpSwft-Dam%(43)
Level 18: Vines -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(27), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(33)
Level 20: Hurricane -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(23), DarkWD-Rchg/EndRdx(23), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(25)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(25)
Level 26: Carrion Creepers -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(40), TotHntr-Dam%(43), Posi-Dmg/Rng(46), Posi-Acc/Dmg(46)
Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(29), RedFtn-EndRdx(31), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 30: O2 Boost -- Tr'ge-Heal/Rchg(A)
Level 32: Fly Trap -- BldM'dt-Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Acc(33), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(34), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(34), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(34), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33)
Level 35: Tornado -- BldM'dt-Acc(A), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(36), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(36), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(37), BldM'dt-Dmg(36), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(39), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 44: Mind Over Body -- ImpSkn-Status(A), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx(45), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-ResDam/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Psionic Tornado -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(3)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(3)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.953
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Level 50 Technology Controller
Primary Power Set: Plant Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Strangler -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(5), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(7)
Level 1: Gale -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Roots -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(21), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Posi-Dmg/Rng(17), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 6: Recall Friend -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 8: Seeds of Confusion -- CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(A), CoPers-Conf%(9), CoPers-Conf(9), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(11), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(11), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(15)
Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(13), RedFtn-Def(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(17), RedFtn-EndRdx(19), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(21)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A)
Level 16: Freezing Rain -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Vines -- UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(A), UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(27), UbrkCons-Hold(31), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(33), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 20: Hurricane -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(23), DarkWD-Rchg/EndRdx(23), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(25)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(25)
Level 26: Carrion Creepers -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(40), Posi-Dmg/Rng(46), Posi-Acc/Dmg(46)
Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(29), RedFtn-EndRdx(31), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 30: O2 Boost -- Tr'ge-Heal/Rchg(A)
Level 32: Fly Trap -- BldM'dt-Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Acc(33), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(34), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(34), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(34), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33)
Level 35: Tornado -- BldM'dt-Acc(A), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(36), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(36), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(37), BldM'dt-Dmg(36), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(39), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(40), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def(42), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(42), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RedFtn-EndRdx(43), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Disruptor Blast -- Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Ragnrk-Dmg(45), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Summon Tarantula -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(48), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(48), C'Arms-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(50), C'Arms-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(3)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(3)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run



The choice to me is between almost perma mes protection or better def and an almost perma extra pet.

Thanks for the replies guys, I'll try to post my build (hope it works, new to mids). I just came back to coh after a long break, I haven't played since before IOs so feel free to give me some pointers. Since the fissure+thunder clap doesnt work I have no problem changing my APP if anyone out there has a better suggestion. Thanks again everyone.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.953
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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(3), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(3), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Gale -- ExStrk-Dam%(A)
Level 2: Chilblain -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 4: Super Jump -- ULeap-Jump(A)
Level 6: Snow Storm -- ImpSwft-Dam%(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def(11), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(11), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(13), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(13), RedFtn-EndRdx(15)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Arctic Air -- CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(A), CoPers-Conf(15), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(17), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(17), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(19), CoPers-Conf%(19)
Level 16: Freezing Rain -- Posi-Dam%(A)
Level 18: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Tough -- GA-3defTpProc(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(21), S'fstPrt-ResKB(21)
Level 22: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def(23), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(23), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(25), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25), RedFtn-EndRdx(27)
Level 24: Hurricane -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DarkWD-Rchg/EndRdx(27), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(29), DarkWD-ToHitDeb(29)
Level 26: Glacier -- Lock-%Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(31), Lock-Rchg/Hold(31), Lock-Acc/Hold(31), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(33), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(33)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(A), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(34), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(34), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(36)
Level 35: Tornado -- BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(36), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(37), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), BldM'dt-Acc(37), BldM'dt-Dmg(40)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(39), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(40), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Fissure -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(42), Posi-Dmg/Rng(42), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg(43), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 44: Rock Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(45), RedFtn-Def(45), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(45), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), RedFtn-EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Seismic Smash -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(48), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(48), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Earth's Embrace -- Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
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Level 2: Swift -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(7)
Level 2: Hurdle -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(7)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run

Hey all, long time reader, first time poster. I'm at work so I can't post my build right now, my ice/storm/stone only has room for thunder clap or tornado and I was wondering what the other stormies out there think would be better. Should I take clap to stack disorients with fissure or nado to debuff, keep in mind i don't have frostbite in my build so I can't plant the baddies and use nado as an aoe. One last thing, I have 45 s/l def and 45 ranged def, is that enough protection. Thanks in advance for the responses I can post my build later when I get home if necessary.