SlammySlam

Thank you! Yea Pain looks usefull but also the fun factor is gone. for me anyway. Storm has that LOOK i jjust love.

Yea in looking i see Electric isnt the best way to go.

I do like the look of Fire/Storm but i wonder how that compares to Bots/Storm Fire and storm are such a TIGHT build very vew bad powers and worse you will never have any power left to use any of the cool abilities. the reason i said bots was to me it frees me up to be able to use my storm abilities since im not having to manage the bots to much.
but Fire/Storm gets both RoF and Freezing rain or whatever the storm one is called. the 2 together could be a lot of fun.
another downside i found for fire storm is AGRO. your crap thin and the agro could kill ya. Where as with a bots storm ya get some more health withthe bodyguard and less agro.
those r just some of my thoughts.

Also as for storm and bots working well. i looked at it this was. My guy is a Storm Demon all whicked and supernatural looking. But I am a smart demon and have tortured scientists in to creating bots for me to use. Since if my pets were human they would fly all over. the Robots are heavy enough to withstand my Whether pattern. i kn9ow its a stretch but it works./

i been reading that Fire Storm cor is a much more powerful combo then electric. and that does sound nice. but again i wonder when grouping and farming wouldn't the MM still own hands down?
I can imagine there is a big benefit to cor that they have less to manage but..... with bots even if you run out of end you still keep shooting.

Thank you.. thats some good info. trying to balance that Utility vs damage is the tough part.. STORM is already rather utilityish so damage would proly be more useful. i looked and dont seem to think ICE would make a good combo with storm ether. its snowstorm would be nice but it does not look like a good build but i could be wrong.. what is damage of ELECT vs ICE i had just hoped Electric would be helpful to regain some End since the build is so draining

I know they are totally different classes but has anyone played both? I am curious which would be a better combo. Obviously different tactic but seems like the MM would have more consistent Damage since your pets would continue shooting even when you are casting and trying to manage mobs, debuffing. Any thoughts on this?

I know they are totally different classes but has anyone played both? I am curious which would be a better combo. Obviously different tactic but seems like the MM would have more consistent Damage since your pets would continue shooting even when you are casting and trying to manage mobs, debuffing. Any thoughts on this?

Anyone have any thoughts. To me Electric / Storm would FEEL more right and wouldn't it be easier on your end. i see how FR and RoF would be wicked combo.

I really like your guide. I have just been wondering how Bots would do in place of the thugs. Seems you would get a bit more defense and not have to micro manage the bruser as much. and if Grouping most of the time and farming it seems it would work fairly well
The only thing that has kept me from playing a storm was that i worried about getting groups but from the sound of it!!! The first time i saw Thunder Storm was in the tutorial where you see villains and heroes fighting behind the fence. I was in love!

Wow great help thank you. i know for SOLO storm is nice but in group i am sure Pain is a stronger build. wish the forums were updated. or even the wiki. i would love to compare Storm to Pain. to bad storm just looks so cool.

as for Thugs. that seems a good way to go if it was not for there tank. with storm i like the idea of all my pets staying with me at ranged where with thugs i would need the tank to run in to the thick.

ONE big question though.
Thugs get Knock Down
Bots get Knock back.
Is this truly important in farming and grouping? i know KP pisses some people off but is it a difference worth noting? and also which is more effective (if no one cared)

I wish Demon would be a Ranged class but its not to likely. All the ranges thus far are guns and i would love to make a Demon Storm but from what people been saying that is not likely.

It seems all of the guides are quite old and i can not find any for Bots/Storm.

I hear a lot of people saying that Thugs is the best of the 2, Last Night i was even told my a vet that had used every mm primary to 50 that the smaller bots at high lvl are useless. This confused me i had always thought bots were a stronger choice then thuds since they have good defense and the healer bots.
Anyway could someone give me a run down of there experience? i Love the STORM secondary and want to be able to choose well between Bots and Thugs.

Any help is Appreciated thank you
SS