Shadey_NA
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There are just too many da** possibilities with this set.
This guy started out after I played against a stone tank in cage matches with both my Cold/Dark and Sonic/Sonic. I was able to do good things with both builds and thought the Cold/Sonic would be an awesome combo.
So, I guess the question becomes how good is sleep in pvp? I'm not a pvp player per se so I won't be spending lots of time trolling BB but wouldn't mind finding an awesome combo I can take into a match from time to time.
Another would be do i have a better shot at AVs with Siren's Song or assault in my pocket? -
Quote:I've been able to do some fairly impressive defending with my TA character. I can't tell you how much is due to what powers (ie. freezing rain as opposed to PGA) but i can say that with a TA/Ice, you can even step in as your teams alpha absorber.Originally Posted by DrMike2000
Its pretty much unique in being unresistable, yes. But calling it reliable or high value is misleading.
The base value is woefully small. Even with Power Boost (15 sec every 80 seconds with a good build), it has slightly more effect than everyone eating a small purple pill, ie not a lot.
Even if you only ever run Task Forces, you'll spend over 90% of the PvE game fighting enemies who are Boss class or less, and against them, Flash Arrow does somewhere between 20% (against even-con) and 40% (against +4s) of the To Hit Debuff of Radiation Infection.
I've played a duo of Trick Archers with slotted Manouvers and Flash Arrows, and had enormous trouble keeping my team alive for a Defender duo.
That said, I really like what Flash Arrow does even if it doen't seem like a lot on paper. -
Quote:Basically, I was building toward being able to multi sleet while having not terrible defenses.Originally Posted by Rigel_Kent
On my stormies, I use Thunder Clap to mez any leftover minions after Freezing Rain's done. Siren's Song would probably do the same for you, except LTs too.
You sure you don't have room for Siren's Song in your solo build? You won't need your three single target shields. Infrigidate, Snow Storm, Shout, Howl and Shockwave are nice but not essential. No need for Vengeance, Recall Friend, or most of Medicine pool, if you've got those.
I guess the question we should be answering is, whether you should skip Siren's Song, or whether you should skip some other power you're on the fence on? Which other power are you on the fence on?
I've been going back and forth between assault and siren's song for a level 49 choice. Assault add lots of damage when you consider the -res. I can only think of accidental multi group aggro for siren's other than using it for another (small) aoe.
Here's the general idea for where I'm going with this build (and yes, I will have a team friendly other build for TFs and the like).
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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cold sonic: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Fitness
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate -- ShldBrk-DefDeb(A), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(3), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(3), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(5), ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), ShldBrk-%Dam(7)
Level 1: Shriek -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(36), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 2: Snow Storm -- TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(A), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(7)
Level 4: Scream -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(50), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 6: Howl -- Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(37), Ragnrk-Knock%(37), Ragnrk-Dmg(37), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(39)
Level 8: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(9), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(9), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 12: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(13), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(13), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(15), ImpArm-ResDam(17)
Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Tough -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(48)
Level 18: Benumb -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(19), Acc-I(21), Range-I(21), EndRdx-I(23)
Level 20: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(25), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 22: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(31), Zephyr-ResKB(31)
Level 24: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 26: Sleet -- ShldBrk-DefDeb(A), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(27), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(27), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(29), ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29), ShldBrk-%Dam(31)
Level 28: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 30: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(39)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(34), P'Shift-End%(34)
Level 35: Shout -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(43), Apoc-Dam%(45), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Range-I(46)
Level 38: Amplify -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(40), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(40), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(40), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(42), GSFC-Build%(43)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 44: Force of Nature -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 47: Temp Invulnerability -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResDam(48), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
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After playing a Cold/Dark and a Sonic/Sonic to 50, I've decided to make a Cold/Sonic. I've been working through a solo build for him and it seems that siren's song will not be particularly viable. I'm just wondering what the more experienced Cold/Sonic fenders think of this.
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Quote:That is an interesting concept. Do you have enough IOs and defense to last in any kind of big battle?Originally Posted by AWRocketman
I have a stamina-less DM/FA brute that is fun to play. With some focus on +recovery IOs (easy to get with just two IOs in many sets), you can easily skip stamina which allows you some interesting combos.
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Quote:Now that's something I didn't know. Kinda makes me sad. Had all those visions of huge damage numbers going up.Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
The chief reason Burn soured on my Stone/Fire was simply that Fury only gives it a damage boost for the first 2 seconds or so, after that the +Damage from Fury wears off it and it drops to standard damage.
So any figure in Mids which is taking Fury into account is simply wrong for how the power actually works in the game. -
Yeah, I figured to do a immob/soul drain/burn/aoe/laugh/kill off de boss dance with groups.
Will I need immob for things like AVs if i use burn or will they be immune for the most part?
Here's a build I was working on in mids for a Dark/Fire so you can see what i'm kinda workin towards.
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.621
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Shadowfire: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 2: Blazing Aura -- Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Armgdn-Dmg(5), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(7), Armgdn-Dam%(9), EndRdx-I(9)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(15)
Level 6: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), HO:Golgi(50), HO:Golgi(50)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel(19), LkGmblr-Rchg+(23), LkGmblr-Def(23)
Level 12: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(13), S'fstPrt-ResKB(13)
Level 14: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(17), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(25)
Level 22: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(25), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(34)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(34), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(27), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(33), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 28: Burn -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(31), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(31), Erad-Acc/Rchg(31)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 41: Gloom -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(43), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Soul Tentacles -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(45), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(45), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(45), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(46), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(46)
Level 47: Dark Consumption -- P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod(50)
Level 49: Dark Obliteration -- HO:Nucle(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 4: Ninja Run -
I was planning on making a SS or DM /fire brute and have been checking the forums for advice (as usual) and there seems to be a fair amount of brutish ppl who have soured a little on Burn. I know the radius is small, but the amount of damage that can be applied seems to make it a good choice combined with any of the aoe immob powers in the epics.
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I appreciate the responses.
PrincessDarkstar: Yeah, i know the mire's are pretty end heavy, but I was thinking of using it just before a boom when i would have ample bodies to recharge with. The idea was to spend the most tanking time in human form actually as it would get the best overall defense/resist when Eclipse was up and switch to lobster when mezzed to break it.
Justaris: I think you have a good point with Unchained Essence. Would probably make better sense to take a taunt power for use while playing tank/troller. The Stygian Circle comes up in good time at ~16 seconds so I figured that should be fine.
This build really just started out as a mids exercise to see what kind of defenses I could get into human form (which is why the order is borked). When I looked at the build afterward all I could think was Tanktroller.
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I was playing around with Mids and came up with a strange defensive build for my warshade. Thought I would see if you guys had any input on it beyond it would be so expensive as to be realistic.
And yes, i have some of the powers out of the order I would place them in on live.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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shades war defense: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ebon Eye -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(5)
Level 2: Gravimetric Snare -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(A), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(43), Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(46), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(50), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(50), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(50)
Level 4: Orbiting Death -- Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Armgdn-Dmg(5)
Level 6: Shadow Blast -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 8: Starless Step -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(9), Zephyr-ResKB(9)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(13), Zephyr-ResKB(13)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Shadow Cloak -- SW-Def(A), SW-Def/EndRdx(15), SW-Def/Rchg(15)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(19), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(21), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(21), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 20: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod(43), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(43)
Level 22: Black Dwarf -- GA-ResDam(A), GA-RechEnd(25)
Level 24: Stygian Circle -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- RzDz-Acc/Rchg(A), RzDz-EndRdx/Stun(27), RzDz-Acc/EndRdx(27), RzDz-Stun/Rng(31), RzDz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(33), RzDz-Immob%(33)
Level 28: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(29), Zephyr-ResKB(29)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Acc(33), BldM'dt-Dmg(34), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(34), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(34), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 35: Unchain Essence -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 38: Eclipse -- GA-3defTpProc(A), GA-Res/Rech/End(39), GA-RechEnd(39), GA-RechRes(39), GA-ResDam(40), GA-End/Res(40)
Level 41: Quasar -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(42)
Level 44: Sunless Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-%Dam(45), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(45), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(45), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- SW-ResDam/Re TP(A), SW-Def(48), SW-Def/EndRdx(48), SW-Def/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Stygian Return -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(3), Zephyr-ResKB(3)
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(11), Zephyr-ResKB(11)
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Level 22: Black Dwarf Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 22: Black Dwarf Smite -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 22: Black Dwarf Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(7), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(7), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Oblit-%Dam(23)
Level 22: Black Dwarf Drain -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 22: Black Dwarf Step -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Empty(A)
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