Scythus

Then stop referring solely to comics.

She said "movie."

So... you are arguing that it only applies to comics. Okay then, that means it's not a problem here, because City of Heroes is not a comic book, it's a video game.

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That was a Skrull.

Oh right, my mistake.

Yes, because the Circle of Thorns never appear in warehouses, office buildings, or cargo ships.

Seriously, the Circle has as much presence in urban environments as every other enemy group in this game. Being the average equivolent to an evil, secretive cult found throughout comics and pulp fiction, they could be anyone and anywhere when not hanging out in their secret meeting place of Oranbega. That's what makes the Circle so spooky.

And read some Thor. There were whole arcs that involved Asgard and Asgard only. Heroes marching into ancient, subterranean ruins filled with magical forces isn't absent from comics either.

The Circle of Thorns fits in just fine.

Yeah, this is my big pet peeve with comics. Death is meaningless. It's merely a vacation for the character rather than the harsh finality we know it to be. So, stuffed in a refrigerator? They'll be back, don't worry. Hell, even Uncle Ben came back for a day.

The only character I can think of who's perma-dead is the Kree hero, Captain Marvel. Who died from AIDS, btw.

Yes, because there's never any magic or demons in comic books.

Don't forget that the TVTropes page has a fair number of gender-flipped fridging in its examples. So all Smersh has to do is look at it and see how it doesn't apply only to women dying or losing their powers.

Oh... hey... what about the ol' "No More Mutants" thing? A lot of guy mutants got depowered. I seem to recall the Blob trying to hang himself and failing miserably.

...Um....

No.

This. Seriously. This so much.

Well, you got pretty damn liberal with the term.

I mean, Gwen friggin' Stacy? Seriously? If she really counts, Spider-Man has a whole WAREHOUSE of fridges and not all of them are female. The guy angsts over EVERYTHING.

Really? Because Smersh was naming practically every female death as fridging. Even if the death didn't motivate anyone.

It's all silliness, really, and that's why when I write stuff, the Grim Reaper isn't picky in who or how they die.

Did you look at the link in my initial post? Either Men Are the Expendable Gender or only women get Stuffed in the Fridge. It's a rather odd double standard.

Note that trope also highlights Throwaway Countries and Doomed Hometowns as examples, so unless you're saying that these countries and towns are predominantly female, I'm finding "WiR" even more ludicrous.

Troll? No, I'm here to ridicule hypocrisy and promote equal opportunity death which I've begun to refreshingly see in this game.

Hello, see:

Precisely, and the mere fact that TVTropes has called BS on the so-called misogyny of Women in Refrigerators by making the relevant trope gender neutral just kind of proves how bogus of a concern it really is. Seriously, I could think of several points where male characters (like the old mentor) have died to motivate other male characters (Obi-Wan Kenobi, Uncle Ben). Unless they were hiding something from the whole world (or universe, depending on genre), I doubt they count as women.

Oh shush, you've been painting with the broadest brush in this whole thread, counting just about every female death as a "Woman in a Refrigerator." It seems like only men are allowed to die in your universe. Unfortunately, nature laughs at you considering that the death toll in this world remains at a constant 100% and 50% of the species is female.

Concerning the Black Dude Dies First, it's becoming something of a Discredited Trope these days. As the page states:

Really, if there's any trope that matches Miss Liberty's death, it's very much Red Shirt. As Sam said, she really wasn't even a character. Little to no characterization, practically nonexistant presence and existing for no reason other than to be killed off. Seems very Red Shirty to me.

And that highlights a big problem about the hero signature characters in this game: They don't have any characterization. Stealing Sam's words, I know about Fusionette more than I know about any existing member of the Freedom Phalanx or Vindicators. They're completely empty personalities. Hell, characterization is one of the things CoV actually got right: I know just about everything about Lord Recluse and his lieutenants there is to know, because they're characters that're actually fleshed out. Same goes for the Praetorians. But Statesman?

He might as well be a cardboard standie.

I have to admit, this was also my first thought.

No. While fighting Vanessa DeVore unexpectedly was novel, I'd rather not continue looking over my shoulder every time I'm fighting Carnies.

Except some of us consider bios to be an important feature. I personally like clicking on interesting looking characters to check out their bios and I'm always disappointed when there's nothing there. I myself always give my characters a bio. They just don't feel complete without them.