RocketBoy

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A 2d artist draws a picture from scratch. Then paints over parts of the image to create a new version. That's lazy.

A 3d artist uses someone else's mesh, somebody else's props, maybe textures and/or default lighting and that's ...not lazy?

I don't see that big of a difference. And for my part, I'm a little more comfortable with the 2d guy because at least I know he's responsible for everything I'm seeing.

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A 3D artist using meshes, light settings and props which are all separate items and not a finshed product in and of themselves is not the same thing as painting over parts of a finished 2D image.

I would think the 3D equivialant would be the same thing. Taking a finished work and changing a few parts and calling it something else. That's what this guy did. He even said as much in his original description.

Seems to me, whether it is a foul ball or not pivots on disclosure. If the work is presented as original and it is not, well, for me, it's a foul ball. If the person says, this is what I did, then what the hell, people can decide for themselves. The fact that it was his original work counts for something.

Lastly, I couldn't disagree more with your last part. Just like the 3D guy, your not sure if he's responsible for everything your seeing. His line work? His color? Stock photos used? Pre-made photo shop brushes? Just like the 3D guy, it depends on the artist and what tools he brings to the project.

1 is a finished product being changed, the other is base items and or settings which by themselves are nothing being used to make two different images.

My take anyway.

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Oh well, Comrade Hero is probably more interested in Russian girls, so I will proceed with Rough 2.

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Neither Comrade Hero or Graviton Girl show their age - both for different reasons and causes.

Mutual respect is more applicable to these two rather than mutual attraction.

And Comrade Hero is a friend to all People! *wink*

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[Rocket Boy turns back to wall and begins to talk about heavy construction equipment....]

Man, that's nice. Excellent!

Like it. The background is pretty awesome.

PM sent.

LOL, too funny. Good stuff.

Very nice. I really like em.

WB. Love your style. Reminds me of an underground (do they still call them that or is "zine" the new/old term) comic I used to read.

I really like rough 2b.

I would not want to ask any artist to take part who as not voluntered. IMO, I really feel like the focus needs to stay on the notion that these commissions are another artist's obligations and the people here are just doing something to support the commisssioners, but I don't think we, they or anyone involved in this can be obligated to cover everyone as a replacement for a piece for the guy who skipped.

I don't know, I hope that came off right. I just hate to ask people to offer their time and craft (many have spent years building) for free.

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No TA. We have to protect your young innocent eyes.


*also: Post 9000!!!!!!!!!!*

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lol

Like i said, I'll never post those pieces! I think you are someone who knows just how not innocent these eyes are!


Gratz on 9k slacker!

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Ahh, the double top secret collection....

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It's not so much him saying I can't post it on HF, but the fact that he told me what I can and cannot do with a piece of work I hired him to do. Now, I will admit, I am not going to post his work on sites that don't allow the content, but I will post it for others to see where it is appropriate. But I'll do so where I want to on my terms because I bought it. Am I wrong for getting upset over this and wanting it in my personal collection/gallery?

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Always good to check the usage rights. Limiting use is one of the reasons commissions are so cheap on DA. I've noticed several aritist I've commissioned have two price tiers. One where you basically totally own it and the other more of a private use, not for profit type deal. This isn't the same guy who's awol on commissions is it? Just PM me the answer if you feel so inclined....

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No, it's not the folks at MMOART. Trust me, I'd let everyone know if it was. It was an artist named Dmitrys.

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I know of him. I have some of his stuff faved. You ever read the guy's journal? I dig the guy's artwork but he's a bit of a strange duck.... and I know ducks.

Very nice.

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It's not so much him saying I can't post it on HF, but the fact that he told me what I can and cannot do with a piece of work I hired him to do. Now, I will admit, I am not going to post his work on sites that don't allow the content, but I will post it for others to see where it is appropriate. But I'll do so where I want to on my terms because I bought it. Am I wrong for getting upset over this and wanting it in my personal collection/gallery?

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Always good to check the usage rights. Limiting use is one of the reasons commissions are so cheap on DA. I've noticed several aritist I've commissioned have two price tiers. One where you basically totally own it and the other more of a private use, not for profit type deal. This isn't the same guy who's awol on commissions is it? Just PM me the answer if you feel so inclined....

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Also, I'm terrified of a place called "Hentai Foundry".

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Well, where do you think your cast iron hentais come from? Sheesh.

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Actually I go to Hentai-Mart. All forgein stuff but you can't beat their prices....

Are they having a fit over it being posted at all or just on certain sites?

Life lesson I guess to not do anywork or commissions that may test your nerves later on.

[thinks back to work he's done....]

I like. What's a kiriban?

These are probably a little beyond my skill set,

Jackie Spines & Lady Cieslak
Torell 2
Junkyard King
Thor's Assassin -- Moment of Weakness
Lord of Vahalla

Of what's left and has previews, I think are doable. Just note me if anyone wants one done.

Nice.

I wish I had this tutorial when my trial period of flash was still active....

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday! Gratz on the art!

Yes. I can't recall if you need to be a subscriber or beta tester but yes.

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I never tire of Bokuman art. She looks great.

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Yep, he was one of my earliest commissions.

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Juggy's got a tight butt!

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I'm secure in my manhood so I can objectively say that I agree....