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It's definitely Tech Sleek.

And this is my goal that I'm working towards with my Grav/Earth. A viable (cheap) option for those who don't want Perma, but want to feel a little uber. If it works, I'll post all about. But first I need to get a computer that won't die when FRAPS or Hero Stats is running!!! Xmas here I come.

Ding..the BEST advice I ever got in the early days was to play my dom like a blapper. Once I figured that out, I was addicted (and successful).

I would add that when did the "Kadabra Kill" mission with an MM buddy. The pets kept Singy occupied and I Perma-held Kadabra Kill (power boost ftw). He never fired a single attack other than his Pet Summon. It was surprisingly easy to hold him from range, then once he was good and held go in for the the kill. I would say theres no shame in getting help for a Hero class enemy, heck Doms are squishy. Also, if you have power boost and solo alot...do not skip it. Longer duration, overlapping holds are life savers.

Min's pretty spot on here....though you can get by on this set relying heavily on Power Boost + Seeds of Confusion. If you do go energy take power boost and take whirling hands. You want to make sure you do some AoE damage.

These days a Plant/Anything Dom is pretty sweet. Plant/Fire, Plant/Thorn, Plant/Earth, or Plant/Ice would be my top recommendations to a newbie though. If you go plant whatever you do don't skip "Seeds of Confusion" at level 8. That's one of the earliest and most effective soft-control powers you'll ever get in this game. Whenever I see Plant toons without seeds, I cry a little on the inside.....

Wow I didn't know that bout Singularity's accuracy. On my 50 Grav/Rad, Singy's not slotted for accuracy. But He has tactics and Rad debuffs to back him up, so I probably never noticed. Might be a completely diffrent story on a Dom..good information thanks!

Because you're choosing not to see it. He's pointing out that Seismic Smash's hold is stacking with the primary hold. This has really interesting potential. It's not "just" that three doms are taking down AV's (sans debuffs, tankage, etc...)...its that Seismic Smash is allowing them to stack holds quickly.

Slotting intangibility enhancements in Singularity is a left-over from the days when it used to spam Dimension Shift. DS has since been removed from Singy's attack chain. You can still slot intangibility but it doesn't do anything.

Here are some slotting recommendations from an older controller guide (Still good advice IMHO):

I'm already seeing this pattern on my lvl 22 Grav/Earth ( I was inspired to start one by your posts Min...). He's not an AoE powerhouse by any means. My Fire/Psi, Grav/Psi, and Plant/Thorn doms already had reliable AoE controls/or damage by this lvl. He is indeed good at #2 and #3. I've been mainly teamed and even been leader of a few teams now. Oddly enough I'm finding that he works well with Stalkers of all things. I apply control to boss, stalker takes out boss, stalkers aoe, fear kicks in, I apply control to next dangerous target. I have to pick and choose my targets much more strategically than I do with my other doms. I'm still unsure how I feel about that, but it has given me a bit of insight as to what Grav "is" and what it "isn't". It's an odd set for sure one with very good strengths balanced out by glaring weaknesses.

I dunno MIN..I'm reading your posts and I'm not seeing an underperfoming toon here. It doesn't do what other doms do but isn't there room for that?

Not all blaster combo's do the same job nor brutes, corruptors, etc... Your Grav/Earth sounds like a single-target boss killer. That also capable of handling EB's. Thats not half bad!

Thanks for these posts..they are tons of fun to read BTW...

I think people expect the epics to be "Awesome out of the box". When the fact is you have to stick them out to get the rewards. The good news is that HEAT's get good around 20 and VEATS get awesome at lvl 24. I can get 20 levels just through regular play a few hours a week, so it doesn't bug me. I like both epics and they feel epic to me. I have a Warshade and a "Huntsman" build bane. Both are loads of fun to play and neither one is IO'd out. It's all perspective I guess.

It sounds like we're all actually agreeing with each other here.. I also apologize if my recent post came across a little more peeved than I intended. Recent posts from both you and DC are making a case for /Earth as very potent secondary. Yes, it's a lot of melee and ST damage. However, for those of us who aren't afraid of "Squishy Melee" its looking pretty good.

I'm actually working on a Grav/Earth that I'd like to perma. The stacking hold potential , especially in the late levels is looking good. If I can solo an AV with it, I'll let you know.

I was ignoring the snark..but its gaining momentum unwatched. I'd like to point out that was a team of only THREE doms taking on a Hero level woodsman and his conned purple pets. If it was a full team of eight, I'd see the point of the additional comments....however again it was THREE Doms, no corrupter or brute in site. Not even a MM....

I am impressed. If you're not than I say try it yourself with three Dominators and tell me how it went...

Hmm that's what I thought. grav/earth might end up being the ST powerhouse of the dom sets. High ST damage and High ST hold mag...of course you sacrifice AoE control and damage for it. But I guess thats the trade off.

I've been reading this thread and enjoying it! One thing that's starting to impress me, is the ST hold potential Grav/Earth might have. I'm anxious to see how you do solo now with Singy at your side! Seismic Smash, ST-Hold, Singularity, Powerboost, and Domination is going to be some very impressive hold magnitude. Very impressive....I can't wait to read more!

Gravity takes a beating on the boards...(and its probably not undeserved) but one you get Singly the ability to lockdown mobs is just sick....

OOOOOH.....8 man grav/earth dom team... ..that might be too much awesome for the servers. They would explode

Hence one of the reasons I want to write an arc concerning them!

OMG that's exactly what I needed. I bow to your powers of search-fu, they are greater than mine!

Yah that might not be bad. In the pre-i0/pre-dom buff days I played regularly with a sg mate Who's Fire/Fire was freaking amazing. Took down mobs really fast with kin support. Now with the buffing and availble IO's I'd imagine you could make a pretty sick Fire/Fire.../Earth looks interesting, but I just can't seem to get into it.