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that goes down to the Char as well.. id like to think if sombody was playing a char who had the power to knoe secert identitys then they would also know the risks and responsability that goes with it.. anyway we get away from topic

and hang on.. who are the roleplay police?

everybody has an opionion and a voice both of them they are allowed to use. let them have there say, you have yours and things get sorted out?
everybody logs off happy.

The "role play police" as you put it have no right.. This is why i said please don't take these guys to the GG and start shouting off against the supers.

what were doing is not effecting them and not doing anything to effect there play style or game.
what we wil get is an IC thread as well using the notice board that ves has put in the base.. sadly the base is in kings row and IC ves hasnt found it yet LOL

Hey Volt. "In one way, it lets people know if you're in some way different to how it appears, but in another way it gives people OOC knowledge on your character that they can bring up if they haven't explicitly been told it (i.e, someone claiming they know you're real name is Michael, when it's the first time you've spoken to them)."

but what about if a Char can know.. sometimes that leads to some great r.p as you havent just had a /tell asking you.. it dose really make you stop and think Oh this guy is somthing.. be it plot device/mind reader/hero corps spy or Harlequin

Its a shame.. Bios should/could be used to tell a story that can give a player all they need to know, sadly they get abused. OR less experianced roleplayers get it wrong.

i could see what you were trying to to, thats why i read your post.. then walked away, went and played with the dog and had some food, got over the feeling of smashing your head into your screen :P and only then posted what i hope was a worth wile post and not seen as an attack in anyway

as you said, other things were getting in the way. you will never know what was going on behind the scenes of that guild, it was a horrible time for me as a player and guild leader and every night i was just going to say f*** it and walk away. Guess thats the problem with a game like this, you put so much into it but it takes so much more.. hmm much like most women i know

Your IC and OOC events were annoying and petty.. but as you say much can change, and i am far from perfect. i hope you will take what you learnt the hard way and pass it on to new blood as i have learnt to keep my mouth shut and walk away, thinking before i speak.

Bet you still play like a noob tho :P

heh i wouldnt even now how, the thing with keeping it public is anybody and everybody can see what were doing and might think it looks fun and join u sor might think i reckon i got a plot for thoses guys?

no do we have a meet up tonight? we have a bit to talk over after finding that cyber geek sat night

Big thanks to @bigmike for getting involved

FFM my old friend..
A good question and good topic. A well thought out post, tho Ironic that its you who has brought this up don't you think?

what you call fudge, is often called flange, or was were I grew up. as for Canon Vs Fudge.. the thing with one spreading into the other is that it can be good fun, if everybody is on the same page. But if one person feels there losing out to it then they will call it, and find a soap box. Its amazing the times you see players doing one thing one moment but the second some thing happens to them the call goes out "Godmodder" or they suddenly jump from a big fudge pie to Canon in a time it takes to right /ignore

The other thing with public r.p meets like the GG is it can get very "my stick is bigger than yours" with somebody doing some thing then some body doing some thing to better it or to get more attention, with the fudge flying all over the place
it can get very annoying for those who prefer a more canon approach

Sometimes you have to just bite your tongue and go with it. Like when there is a PB who seems to be 10 times more powerful than any other PB you have ever met, Or there is a damn blaster, energy devices no less trying to pass of as a great physic who can remove illness and in stoke fears in anybody’s mind, wile hearing every thought that has been greated around him as he dips his hand into a portal that seems to be in his pocket and pulls out sugar snacks for any women that walks past.

Dante, your first post was great and I wish I could get my thoughts down as well as you. I agree very very much with the the local/public r.p systems being different

and if I had to some my post up in a short and sweet version I think id just say this..


Canon has its place at an event like the GG, giving a basic set of ground rules and boundaries. A bit of fudge to make things fun but not steal the show.

For real fudge, game bending mind twisting stuff.. (hat don't get me wrong is great fun)should be kept to smaller numbers with all players aware of what’s going on


as an example of what I mean.. I have this, its a real event that happened Shadow Ghost,FFM I hope you don't mind me using this.. there is no malice in my words and I think it sums up what im trying to say

The Sg I used to run the Cirque De La Lune's back story was clostly tied to the Carnival of shadows. Most of our guild plots and char development was based around them.. because of this we had added a bit of fudge/flange along the way. For example we said that when the carnival takes a victim they are gone and the only way to release the hold the carnival has is to kill the husk, releasing the sprit to rest in peace.

Now to mehis sort of fudge is fine AS it was kept within the Sg only and not talked about in front of players who might have a different view it was a private bit of role-play for the SG only.

If we had tried to pass that idea off as being canon or raised it at the GG this would of forced players to agree with us or argue there for effecting there game and that’s not how I play..

The problem we had was when Ghost and FFM joined the Cirque I as a guild leader should of spoken to them about this OOC and informed them of the story we had going.. I failed to do this and in turn it lead to Ghost playing Canon and saying some thing like "ive looked into it and your wrong.. here is the proof" BOOM before you can say send in the clowns canon has mixed with fudge and its all very sticky.

So.. if Canon is used as a basic back drop for public/open r.p and serious fudge is kept for private things with everybody aware that what’s going on in that group stays with in that group as to not effect anybody else it can all work rather well

((woo i new i came back at a good time!))

hey fell free

Efranof.. the only reason we met there, was becuae we met at the new spawn place for a ooc chat and then jumped into the r.p

the main reason for being in galaxy is thats were are missions start :P but yeah as a roleplay zone kings row would be better?

ves might even of made us a base by now :P

if we meet in the same place tonight, as planned. its easy for new players to get too and we can start the contact there?

if you remember casey said he had a guy who agreeed with what they were doing and would help them out. the same person that the medi-coms and the walkie talkies came from.

after a few hours play tonight we wil be in kings row anyway.

guys i can't even begin to re-cap whats just happend..
That was some great roleplay! at one point i almost grabbed a big stick and went of to fight "the man"
Thank you!
well worth comming back to CoH for.

Rise Against..
Casey
Jayce
Rekkah
Carl Hooke
Rail Fist Reggie
Hammerhead
Kinsey

Active, loud and proud.

so far it seems everybody is having the same ideas i did. so i hope you will liek what ive done.. tho feel free to add anything ideas

got a rough draft being made now with the name Rise Against.
stuff like that we can talk about later? with the founding members

heh just assult rifles :P

well if we all roll togther at level one, might start things better? i have enough 50's and have enough players to play in real teams with.. this one is just for fun n r.p goodness

how about an 8-30 meet up ooc at the backally guy? just to see who turns up and see what we got?

AH SOD IT! play what you want a team of tanks if we have too, who cares! infact if were loaded with thanks then we can all take more attacks n worry less about aggro controle

yeah i was thinking basic names or nicknames

yeah!!!!

but.. not enough for me to say you can't play one.

Just be ready for your excuse about the tenticles and the self heal that comes with the set? :P

im not going to police and say what we can and cant have just given my ideas with a hope they will be stuck too

its like the mask thing, first thing id expect to be asked is if your not doing anything wrong why you lot cover your faces.. to me the answer is simple. to protect our familys from getting the come backs of our actions

Just had an idea for a new SG

Except with out the super..
The police are useless and corrupt, The supers are now to busy with the war effot and protecting thoses high class areas, like Founders falls.

Its time for a new kind of hero, A real hero. One that defends his city the only way he knows how. Knives and Knuckles.

I'm thinking a street gang, From kings Row or the Hollows. Mostly just normal guys n girls doing what they can.. The only way they know how.. Hearing about muggers targeting old women makes them sick, women being attacked or shop keepers being lent on for protection money gets them angry, but there not to fond on the police ether, and would not think twice about breaking some bones to get the job done.
Not anti super, just refusing to rely on them. Proud and loud.

Most natural types tho there could be room for the odd tech geek or hacker, even a mutant in there some place.

Weapons like bats, fists, fist daggers or knuckle claws, oh and the odd gun.. street style clothing with sg mode being a same colour top with a logo on it and bandana/mask

Oh and can i be team tank please?

Thats just a very rough draft, to see who is intertested, and get some ideas from others. What you think?

ah thanks Z!

sorry i think i was in shock for aggreing with you..
your line.. " Such a reaction would be preferable, " and then going on to say that this tends not to be the case, what i should of said

Yeah thats the idea, but we know thast not often the case, and i doubt that has changed since ive been away

was it Night Stalker? can't remeber nice bloke tho!

and i do remeber way back.. There were two toons at the GG very very closely based on Batman. They got on Very well and the roleplay was good between them froma by standers point of veiw.

Because nether said I am batman! and slight twists on there back story. it worked well

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Well that is diffrent. That would get the same reaction as a player saying "i can do this, this, and this! Why? because im uber and like to think im better than you" ( yes i've left that vauge becuase knowing my luck i'll give an example that has happend and start a new fight)

Simply ignore them. The
IC reason by not beleiving them or somthing else that means you can just not get involved.

Nice idea FFM but i doubt that much has changed since i went away.

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Same here, it's definately not worth starting a row over.

I do have ONE question though, directed at the players of historical characters. What would you do if another player turned up, playing exactly the same character? Bear in mind that, as they pay their subs too, they have equal rights to portray a public domain historical figure as you do.

In fact, I'm kinda curious as to what anyone would do, if faced with 2 characters claiming to be the same person. I think I'd be inclined ignore both and save myself the aggravation.

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There are a few ways you can get round stuff like that, ok so there a bit flangey but thats offten the nature of things in an roleplay game with no ruling body..

For example, and the first thing that pops into my head..

Say Mr Smith had just watched braveheart when it was shown on TV last saturday. He then thought wow wouldnt that be cool i'll play William Wallice!

and then say on the same night Mr Clark had just watched braveheart when it was shown on TV last saturday. He then thought wow wouldnt that be cool i'll play William Wallice!

both turn up at the GG the next night.. Now there has to be some way this guy has come back from the dead.. twice.. be it parle worlds, fault in the fabic of time? it don't matter. The thing is there is always a way around it in a setting like this one. It could lead to some interesting r.p

If done well i think i'd love to see it.

As a player on the outside looking in id be inclind to pass it off as nether were infact who they said they were, and ether copies from another time or place or in a more down to earth char's eyes.. just dressed up to look like sombody they read about in a book, to give them an edge against thugs?

or sumin like that anyway

As long as everybody else ether rolls with it or leaves it well alone and nobody trys to say you can't do that! then it shouldnt effect anything to much, there for everybody logs off happy at the end of the night?

woo! still getting the love!