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Originally Posted by Great_White_555

The way I see it, if it's consistently giving you more than average drops then the RNG is broken. Maybe we need to get an Admin. in here to fix the problem that is obviously occurring so that this stops and the drops become random for you just like everyone else.

Just my thoughts.

Originally Posted by Smersh

The only MMO with any sort of appreciable pricing power is the 800 pound gorilla. Until and unless they change their pricing for monthly subscription games, you won't see an industry-wide change in subscription fees for MMOs.

Originally Posted by Smersh

The only MMO with any sort of appreciable pricing power is the 800 pound gorilla. Until and unless they change their pricing for monthly subscription games, you won't see an industry-wide change in subscription fees for MMOs.

Originally Posted by Smersh

You're stating your preferences as fact without evidence to back it up.

You should feel free to do that, but until you can show evidence that it doesn't work, I'm pretty much free to call you on it.

Originally Posted by frosticus-11

Ok, working under the assumption that they are in a full F2P system as opposed to a hybrid one, if a rep presented the data that showed some typical player profiles and the cost was almost identical to what you pay now and you fit into one of those profiles - would such a clever consumer still see right through that and leave?



I can only assure you that the best companies are anything but complacent and satisfied with the status quo...

There would only be mom and pop stores if that were the case. National and global entities emerge because motivated people ask things like "what can we do to capture more of the market?"

That isn't to say there is anything wrong with running a smaller operation but your premise that business ONLY seeks new answers when they are failing is quite incorrect.

Smart businesses and smart business people don't turn away people that they can extract profit from. Especially if they have a highly customizable product.

Originally Posted by Electric-Knight

Thanks! Was just checking to see exactly what you meant.

Yeah, it's all just opinions, of course, but she's always seemed beautiful to me. She seems a bit too striking to call common, but no arguments here, as it's just opinions.

I can say that she has a sort of, almost awkward, rugged/oddness about her, but I don't think it detracts from her beauty (and likely adds to it).

Regardless, I totally agree with you that the big difference in that picture seems to be the smile.
I don't think that the uproar over the costume and initial photos led to the pilot being turned down (you never really know), but I do think they sure mishandled all of that!
A shot of her in that costume, smiling... Just might have made more people go... "Ahhh, look, it's Wonder Woman".
Something nice about seeing her smiling in that outfit.
Seems like a lot of failure all around this project.

Originally Posted by Smersh

Your predictive skills are amazing.

Can I have some winning lottery numbers while you're at it?

Originally Posted by Electric-Knight

Explain.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

I wouldn't say that.


And this contradicts the above.


The idea of the F2P model is that the playerbase as a whole pays more, so the company makes more. But the average player pays the same or less as the typical MMO subscriber for the same level of content. That makes the model individually attractive to individual players, and attractive on the whole for the company.

The trick is an execution trick: to ensure that the relative value you get at the different price points is attractive enough to attract players and convince a high enough percentage of them to pay. While its not an easy balancing act, the target is certainly not extremely difficult to hit because many games seem to hit it successfully.

Originally Posted by Rodion

When trial accounts were first offered they had almost no restrictions. They quickly became a source of serious problems in the game, and their capabilities had to be drastically curtailed to prevent scams. Now trial accounts can do almost nothing.

Of necessity, F2P accounts would have to have the same level of restrictions, to avoid all the problems that unlimited trial accounts gave us.

To prevent abuse and inflicting a massive influx of nitwits and exploit hounds on the paying playerbase there would have to be some kind of wall between the F2P players and "real" players.

But characters on such accounts are essentially unplayable for more than a few hours. You can't get a real feeling for the game on a trial sub.

People tend to devalue things that cost nothing. They value expensive things, even when those things have no intrinsic value. Designer clothes and shoes are often shoddier than sturdy apparel that costs 10 times less. Yet everyone wants the fancy brand-name stuff.

People also despise things that misrepresent themselves. If a game claims to be F2P, yet you get nickel- and dimed to death for everything you need, you wind up feeling cheated. You won't ever get invested in the game and you'll quickly leave.

Also, giving something to new people for free (and letting in the rabble) would alienate many of the most devoted players. The last thing the devs can afford to do is tick off their paying playerbase.

When you come right down to it, if people can't afford to play a computer game, then they shouldn't play the game.

I would heartily endorse a better trial experience, but we've seen how hard that is to do.

Originally Posted by BrandX

You know, if this leaked photo gets enough positive reception, maybe it'll work int he favor of a new Wonder Woman TV series (or movie) but obviously different script than the recently cancelled one.

Originally Posted by MajorTractor

The only thing that influences how many shards you get is the number of kills your team gets. You want more shards? Kill more dudes.

In this way, if you are clearing missions, the LGTF is probably best because of the massive numbers of mobs, but which TF you do it on is irrelevant. A RANDOM roll is made for each eligible person on the team independent of each other for each kill the team makes. The only way to make drops for shards more likely is to be on a task force. Pick your favorite TF and go to town.

The reason people get higher and lower number of shards on different TF's is because of the different ways they can be run. People in this thread talk about getting 8-10 shards on ITF. With my group of global friends and the way we do high speed runs, I'm luck to get 3 shards on an ITF.

Originally Posted by Frosty_Surprise

Last night's results:

All teammates are level 50s. I got 9 shards, which falls in my average amount for an ITF of 8-12 shards. No purple drops.

So, as you can see, random is random. LGTF is not a shard farm.

Originally Posted by BrandX

Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say it doesn't look impressive. As it could of looked different on film.

That said, it looks just as good at the very least as the Linda Carter WW outfit.

Originally Posted by Wanted_NA

If this was directed to me, I'm running Win XP so this isn't an issue for me.




Yeah, I'm aware of this. That was how I first installed the test server. But NCSoft launcher refused to update it after I upgraded from the old launcher, so I tried a clean install, which also didn't work.



I'm sorry, not sure I understand. The download actually happens. The Launcher will download the full client. But once it reaches 100%, instead of installing the game then, it will simply revert to 0% and start downloading all over again. And this just keeps happening endlessly.

Originally Posted by VoodooGirl

...no, this is the Internet.

Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker

CoH will never have power customization, either. The Devs said so many, many times.

That being said (tongue firmly in cheek), I don't favor going F2P if there isn't a clear advantage to doing so, for example drawing in new subscribers. Case in point: I subbed to another game in 2008. 18 months later, due to frustrations with the lack of soloability in main story content, I left. Less then a year ago, they switched to F2P. I started playing again, realized they'd rectified the majority of my issues with it, and I've been resubbed since late last year.

I have no qualms about playing (and subscribing to) a game that's "free". My problem is that I have no desire to see the game flooded with leeches... and in my experience, they make up a significant fraction of the people who keep asking for it.

Originally Posted by TonyV

In case you missed it (and I'm not being accusatory or facetious; I don't keep up with all dev/rep posts myself), they are addressing this very problem in a very non-hypothetical way as we speak. I'll let Second Measure chime in from another thread...



This is the kind of constructive concern that I like seeing posted, something tangible that NCsoft/Paragon Studios could actually address. Unfortunately, with the "I'm leaving the game..." comment on a hypothetical change, you're coming off as pushing an agenda instead of having a good faith discussion. If the lag issue was solved even with higher populations of F2Pers, do you still maintain that you'd leave? If so, why?

At any rate, since this is hypothetical, I'm probably going to stop posting in this thread. As interesting as it is, I do have a bunch of other stuff I need to work on.

Originally Posted by Ironblade

Are you actually keeping track in a SPREADSHEET, so you can apply MATH? A couple of posts a week are meaningless because you're depending on MEMORY of what the patterns (if any) are. You need STATISTICS. You can post a run twice a week for ETERNITY and it means nothing - unless someone is keeping track of the numbers.

Oh, and without keeping track of the NUMBER of enemies defeated, the posts are worthless anyway. The drops are based on enemy defeats so the number of enemies is the single most important piece of information (after the number of drops).

Originally Posted by Ironblade

Are you actually keeping track in a SPREADSHEET, so you can apply MATH? A couple of posts a week are meaningless because you're depending on MEMORY of what the patterns (if any) are. You need STATISTICS. You can post a run twice a week for ETERNITY and it means nothing - unless someone is keeping track of the numbers.

Oh, and without keeping track of the NUMBER of enemies defeated, the posts are worthless anyway. The drops are based on enemy defeats so the number of enemies is the single most important piece of information (after the number of drops).