Raziel_DX_EU

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SR doesnt cope well against overwhelming odds when elude is not running.

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Understatement of the Year Award goes toooo.... HAMMERFALL congrats bud [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] *gives him the award and lets the scantly clad women jump on him*

Yea, your right.. Elude vs many foes or a controller of sorts, is my best friend (for about 3-5mins). As much as my own Kat/SR copes, he's better in Melee then Ranged, as I use Divine Avalanche on anything close enough to hit, keeping my DEF capping up as much as possible.

Spines.. ranged all ok slows.. mm true.. but if something gets close enough to get past Quills (if they have it) it's game over.

But, I have noticed in PvP (especially yesterday in Siren's) if you're SR, they all make an EXTRA special note to pile on you..

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indeed.. 2(or 3acc) + BU +Aim = byebye

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I'd really wish my SR defenses were uber enough to make a blaster have to pop yellows with BU+AIM to hit me, tbh [img]/uk/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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DX vs Demora [pvp arena] (fire/fire blaster) Build Up was more than enough to get thru [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

anything with enough ToHit and ACC stacked with circumvent it [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

SR is all about "luck", as you know yourself. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] They won't hit all the time, but they'll hit enough to make it hurt.

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Simple solution, like i did on my fire/emp controller..

last cossie slot = Hami Cossie (no more/no less), I don't need 4 cossies on toons, so it's an easy street to go down.

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That's what I did too - and I'll use the 4th slot later for a Halloween costume too [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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makes sense doesn't it =D

Simple solution, like i did on my fire/emp controller..

last cossie slot = Hami Cossie (no more/no less), I don't need 4 cossies on toons, so it's an easy street to go down.

indeed.. 2(or 3acc) + BU +Aim = byebye

then you have the DoT from fire blasters.. you start to add all the numbers up over time.

a decent PvP blaster vs an SR Scrapper can go either way, it'll all come down to who hit's first.

Ofcourse there problem is.. the more you kill a blaster, the more powerful he becomes.. so it's its a "kill or be killed" scenario

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Good news for those who didn't recieve a Hami-O from Sunday's encounter and petitioned it, and whats better, we get to choose which Hami-0 we want! Check your emails folks. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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whoa lol and normally they won't do that.. I wonder what changed they're mind.

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lol glad to hear it, im glad 2 lend a hand whenever you want mate.

Mind if i add ya in my ingame m8s list?

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sure go for it..

my toons are listed below and my global is "@Raziel" so you'll find me sumwhere, no matter what.

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As for using Elude as a herding tool :/ yea.. kinda just as bad as using Lightform or Invincibility.. true they work (to an extent unless you end up -DEF buffed (Radiation Emission anyone?) in which case you only prolong your own death, but once Elude crashes.. the fuse is short [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If ur an SR (not sure with ne others def sets) u either get a resist against def debuff or ur not affected by em nemore. cnt remember which tho. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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You do yes and it scales with level.. at level 50 it's like RES to DEF Debuff::

Toggles: 22%
Passives: 10%

But, with such things as RAD stacked on you.. that won't last long, and eventually the DMG gets through, based on ur DEF debuffed and they're ACC vs SR overall.

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With elude or fort a spines/sr can herd as good as anything in i7

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Well that's great, but it doesn't help you between levels 2 to 12 at the earliest, or 2 to 39 if you're not seeking outside assistance. I wouldn't have thought that using Elude as a herding tool was a particularly effective playstyle either... herd, herd, herd, wow this is great!, herd, herd, end crash, death. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

If you're wanting to herd, I'd recommend /Regen (for survivability), or /Dark (for AoE dustbunny doom). SR can do it, but it's not really built for it.

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Agreed.. even with SR's DEF buffing now and before you could herd.. but these days even with Aid Self, it can get very dangerous, and the AoEs' make you stick out (no pun intended), with Quills, and Spine Burst.

"Spine Burst" animation time can be a serious killer (As I found out a few times on Israfel). But it's a good stalker deterrant in PvP, as I've stood next to a stalker and seen with Quills running:: "miss" "miss", fire off build up, "hit" > "ripper" > "spine burst", and you see that Stalker run [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] -- a Spines is a herding monster.. but the trade off is it can kill you just as easy and as fast.

Tho Globefighter (as he has one) can give you a better idea on his build as he did it, you wanna be very careful with a Spines/SR, true you have a good DEF value now.. but as said.. it can get VERY dangerous in places (especially due to Stalkers using Hide+Stealth to circumvent the +perception, and use its DEF bonus).

As for using Elude as a herding tool :/ yea.. kinda just as bad as using Lightform or Invincibility.. true they work (to an extent unless you end up -DEF buffed (Radiation Emission anyone?) in which case you only prolong your own death, but once Elude crashes.. the fuse is short [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But as fat as Spines/SR vs 1v1 no problems (just try to avoid those Debuffs, they hurt.. a lot..)

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If I can get my nin/nin stalker "Fateful Blade" up to 15 by Saturday I'd like to tag along. What time? Preferably in the am, 8am onwards is cool for me.


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Sure.. SKs and junk are available.

As for the 8AM, that's an idea., see what everyone else thinks as well.

(Possible - Saturday event for SF)

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If you are arranging another respec I'd also be interested to take along my lvl 34 corrupter. I'll keep an eye on this topic [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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As posted above... [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

No no [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

a Respec option is still available, as I still have Mastermind in the wing.

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bah raz cant see anything cuz of teh drink ! :P

that and i stole his eyes ... o.O

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drink ftw

and MEIN EYES!!!!

Current LineUp for 1st Strike Force, as follows:

Myself
Snowy ( <3 )
Phobos
Shannon
Hephestos
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Any more takers?

Well Stalker respec was done.. this morning at 3am I think it was, Kitetsu dragged me and Snowy and Phobos along (MM ftw!)

Went well, other than Kit's spider issue in his room (you big wuss!)

But we can always do another, my MM is always open to another respec option.

As for the SF, I'm still thinking Saturday sometime.. let me know what times are best for people, and we can sort it, as I'd like it so we don't have :: "sorry gotta go mum calling", after 5mins into it.

Also, please let me know what ATs are coming.. so that everyone can prepare themselves.

I'll be using any one of the toons I have available at sum point, to get them the badges as well. (as people decide to change/if needed)

If we run into a lil "backstabbibg" problem, I'll get in DX and me and Globe can go about and "remove" such problems.

(I hope you got Focused Accuracy Globey you'll need to it circumvent the Hide/Stealth Issue.. or it'll be just me seeing them a mile off [img]/uk/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img])

If all goes well, we could make this a regular weekend thing.

Also.. Teamspeak an option?

It'll help with co-ordinating around, even for those without Mics, so they know what's going on, rather than typing out stuff and planting due to it..

OOoo ooo and a Global Room is an idea, for the people on the "RV-AV Run" [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It'll be Sonic Attack I say! Everyone must love the Sonicz!

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I love my Sonic Blaster, he might not be PvP build.. but he can hurt.. and hurt A LOT.

TA is nasty, I've seen Shannon play hers on my team and under the right conditions it can out damage a lot of things.. I'd suggest talking to her about it.

As for:

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Claws/Super Reflexes Scrappers ftw


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Indeed [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Tho again Shannon has one.. and 1v1 with most it's nasty.. well till she met my new Kat/SR refit for PvP ... [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] then she had a few.. melee problems... but otherwise Claw/SR is cool, unless they have RES to lethal dmg -- which iirc most do these days.

Yea [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] when adding all powers in to the equation, then adding, for instance SR toggles/passives Attack chains [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] real easy to add Tactics into that.. ermm NOT.

Unless you wanna PvP at level 30 (in siren's) with about 1 attack and all SR you need with Leadership [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ... Easier just to take sum BFs, than to mess about with the build, tho you can get away with it, if you miss out 2 passives.. but tbh.. I wudn't even think about it myself personally, and I do fine, without a Heal Self or Tactics..

Later one "yes" you can add Leadership.. but to keep an attack chain running on more than just one attack and Brawl.. meh.. I'll take my chances, and put my trust in my DEF and sum BFs.

Regens I dunno. I guess it depends on the Primary..

Invulns.. dunno.. never made an invuln scrapper.. Dark.. well doeesn't need it iirc.

No doubt I'll be dragged along

(I am being actually LOL)

So consider the Controller and my lovely Imps as Empathy/Hold Backup.. already have the AVs.. but meh.. tis all good fun.

Ahhhh.. me understand.. too early in morning for me..

Hey I got a good idea..

*goes back bed*

Sorted [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

so far i think i have ooooo...5/6 people so far.. I'll be posting the names and suggested time/date for it soonish.

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iirc it's like an outside kill.. if you are too far away from that which did the final damage you don't recieve the reward.. and I believe from what I've seen, and people have said, that Hamidon works the same way.

So being on "cowards hill" or anywhere far enough away = no Hami-O

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Again, this is not the case. As I posted on the other topic: I was stood directly outside of the Hami jelly with many other players, we were in range, and we'd ensured that we had dealt damage during the pre-hold phase.

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aye ive jsut read that post.. but if it means dong 50% dmg to get it.. how on earth doesnt each team do 50% dmg to hami to ensure return.. considering his HP levels.. you'd have to have 1 main damager on team at all times inside the jelly it seems.

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I don't think it's the strategy at all, especially not if there's a topic about the exact same issue on the US forums, with a redname acknowledging a bug and stating they're working on a fix. No, the raid went smoothly and everything was organised well, it's just thanks to some bug/glitch a good chunk of us didn't get credit for it come the end. Erratic too if what Xanthus said about someone brawling once getting rewarded, and others who dealt more damage getting nothing.

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iirc it's like an outside kill.. if you are too far away from that which did the final damage you don't recieve the reward.. and I believe from what I've seen, and people have said, that Hamidon works the same way.

So being on "cowards hill" or anywhere far enough away = no Hami-O

Granted, that sometimes when you hit summat "kill steal for instance", and run off you get a rewards.. but usually you're still with in a certain distance of that "target".

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And AFAIK, it's always been like that. Why do all US get Hami-Os.. why.. because they're ALL in the JELLY.

Blame the crap servers.. not the Hamidon. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

So I'm guessing, Hamidon has it's own set of rules/ranges/etc.. I mean come on.. Hamidon is the Unqiue GM in the game.. he's entitled to his own set of rules.

what ever is easier.. can be planned for [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

That's easy enough.

New plan: the 1st Strike Force for this weekend, so that it fits with most peoples times.

More time then to plan and get people for it, as well as more time in the day for people.

If anyone is interested, I'd like to arrange a Respec and 1st SF Team on "CoV - Union"

I won't go into details about them as I'm sure most people know whats entailed of them.

If anyone is interested, posty away, and we can arrange something.

Idea of time to do them: depends on you.
My idea: Respec (2moz sometime, based on people).
SF: when it's best available for people to do, considering I've never done the CoV SFs, I'm also open to advice on them.

(now to stop talking like the Rikti)

Addition: I'll be using my Mastermind 41-Robotics/Traps for SF and my level 27-Stalker EM/Ninjistu for Respec, incase anyone needed to know.