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EnnVee, are those really the costs? In the case of "Shoot The Messenger", this would be "Give the messenger 10 million influence"! Just kidding, but seriously ready to make an Uber base now!

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I will take the 10 million influence for being the messenger =D

and Yep, those are the costs.

Good luck and Godspeed Alex

~Plas

I will check again tonight Rabbit.

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Does anyone know what the new recipe for the AES will be?

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Sigh. I thought I posted this earlier, but I'm not seeing it here, so here's try two:

Autonomous Expert System:
1: Simple Chemical, Polycarbon, Spell Scroll, Source Code
2: Inert Gas, Steel, Spell Ink, Holographic Memory
3: Silver, Titanium Shard, Demonic Threat Report, Chronal Skip

Mystic Orrery:
1: Ancient Artifact, Clockwork Gear, Brass, Psionically Charged Brass
2: Masterwork Weapon, Alchemical Gold, Iron, Enchanted Impervium
3: Nevermelting Ice, Sapphire, Ceramic Armor Plate, Diamond

Advanced Holodisplay:
1: Computer Virus, Heavy Water, Luck Charm, Unearthed Relic, Heads Up Display
2: Circuit Board, Corrosive Gas, Rune, Enscorcelled Weapon, Military Cybernetic
3: Temporal Analyzer, Gold, Fortune, Unquenchable Flame, Photonic Weapon

Mystic Overseer:
1: Spell Scroll, Psionic Ectoplasm, Human Blood Sample, Mutant Blood Sample, Psionically Charged Brass
2: Spell Ink, Blood of the Incarnate, Stabilized Mutant Genome, Mutant DNA Strand, Enchanted Impervium
3: Demonic Threat Report, Thorn Tree Vine, Hydraulic Piston, Pneumatic Piston, Diamond

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I will get them added to the list.

Tomorrow I might color code the list so people realize there are different recipes.

Snow_Globe, I will also convert the file to HTML or an actual table for you to send to Ex to update for legibility.

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Plasma - I am seeing Tier 1 empowerment buffs as needing salvage so there is a cost. For example Tier 1 Arcane Empowerment Station has KB protection:
Luck Charm, Inanimate Carbon Rod
Rune, Scientific Theory
Fortune, Mathematic Proof

So I guess no freebies there.

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The Tier 1 empowerment station costs no salvage to construct. =)

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I believe they are referring to the cost of salvage for the buff, not the empowerment station

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If so Vorac posted the complete list =D

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Plasma - I am seeing Tier 1 empowerment buffs as needing salvage so there is a cost. For example Tier 1 Arcane Empowerment Station has KB protection:
Luck Charm, Inanimate Carbon Rod
Rune, Scientific Theory
Fortune, Mathematic Proof

So I guess no freebies there.

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The Tier 1 empowerment station costs no salvage to construct. =)

It hasnt.

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So magic desks are nerfed too?

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I just logged on my one "over 10" test character to start an SG... and the strangest thing happened with the desk... it would stack on itself. No straight z-axis movement, but I could keep placing it on top of its own bounding box.

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Thats due to the current lack of pathing rules. May be subject to change by end of week.

Thanks Cende.

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What happens if you have more than 30 salvage in a base salvage rack when the capacity is lowered? does all the salvage stay where is now, but once you take it out you can't put it back in? Or does it get lost in limbo?

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Stays where it is until you yank it out.

I asked that same question in beta Steele

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Hehe, sorry, Plasma, didnt see that on my first time through

btw, are we doing a list of Empowerment Buff costs?

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I haven't, but it probably would be a valuable add to this thread.

You want me to harm you don't you Vorac? =D

Also thread now stickied. thank you Lighthouse.

Updated Salvage Conversion Section to answer common brainstorm questions.

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Are "Brainstorms" something you need to carry around in your character's inventory? Is there a limit? Are they a type of salvage themselves, that can be stored external to your character?

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Brainstorms if they have a limit is likely 9999.

They are a 'Special Salvage' type in your inventory

They CAN be shared. They CAN be Stored in Salvage Racks.

New Rent costs have been updated.

Updated with New Item Recipes

Added note regarding Item Recipes having 3 choices

Korith, want me to go back and add a 1,2,3 to each? I dont want to but I can.

Ill hopefully still be able to edit when I get home.


Base Salvage Conversion can be done at any Invention Table....one click at a time.

So for those of you who have 2500 base salvage waiting...have fun. 2500 clicks later.

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Do we know if rent costs are staying the same? That would give me pause before upgrading some of my bases' plots. No need to upgrade the size if a possible SG slowdown will lock me out of my base or make me tear it all back out to afford it again.

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There is a MASSIVE Overhaul to rent costs. I can't provide you 100% numbers until I get home in about an hour. Ill try to update then.

NOTE:

To recoup Base plot costs, you can simply buy the same plot. I will add that to the top.

Just think they count towards Fabricator.

Part V Base Salvage Conversion
(courtesy of Beefcake)

1 Base Salvage ---> 1 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Invention Salvage
1 Base Components ---> 3 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Invention Salvage

Once you have converted all base salvage and components to Brain Storm Idea, you have a choice what invention salvage to convert it to.

Random Invention Salvage
1 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Random Common Invention Salvage
5 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Random Uncommon Invention Salvage
20 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Random Rare Invention Salvage

Arcane Random Invention Salvage
2 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Random Arcane Common Invention Salvage
10 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Random Arcane Uncommon Invention Salvage
40 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Random Arcane Rare Invention Salvage

Tech Random Invention Salvage
2 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Random Tech Common Invention Salvage
10 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Random Tech Uncommon Invention Salvage
40 Brain Storm Idea ---> 1 Random Tech Rare Invention Salvage


Brainstorm Salvage Notes. <ul type="square"> [*] Created at Invention Tables in base or university[*]Max Per Character 9999[*]Can be Shared[*]Can be storage in Salvage Racks in base[*] Are converted ONE AT A TIME[/list]

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Is there a conversion of Base Salvage to Invention salvage like was hinted by Positron? If so where is the conversion done? If no conversion, what happens to existing base salvage if you can't convert and the workbenches and empowerment stations won't use it?

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I knew I forgot an element....gimme a minute.

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TP Pad costs?

Looks like existing built base items stayed at the same cost so no need to rebuild them. That is something good.

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No change, Post updated to reflect.

Part IV Upkeep

New Rent is calculated by certain items you have in base.

Enhancement Storage: 100 Prestige
Inspiration Storage: 100 Prestige
Public Salvage Storage: 100 Prestige
Empowerment Tables: 100 Prestige

For each item you have in your base of the above its 100 prestige.

This means the max rent most bases will have is approximately 2000 (as there is no reason to keep lower level empowerment stations aside from decoration)


Vaults do NOT have a prestige upkeep associated with them, so most will truly only see 1900 rent per cycle.