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You posted your experience. He posted his.

Finding a team is no harder -now- than it was before. If Bill (a player native to Pinnacle) can flip over to your home server and build a team -faster- than you that lasts -longer- than your team: It's not your server that has issues.

He asked if your teaming criteria might be too high. His was rather average.

If other people are not having trouble finding a team but you are: Perhaps the trouble isn't the teaming. Perhaps the problem rests on your own shoulders.

I knew a girl who used to stand under Atlas statue for 3 hours, not sending tells, not asking for a team, doing nothing. If she didn't get invited to a team then she'd log off and be upset all day. Does this mean that 'Teaming is Dead'? No. It means that she wasn't looking at all. Perhaps you're looking too hard or not hard enough?

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Pfft, he won't read it, or answer. He's too busy saying it's difficult, despite the fact I put one together in no time on a character I haven't played in months.

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So... You read Bill's post, then dismissed it out of hand and went on with the discussion as if his post had no meaning or worth?

Tactful. Fail.

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If you mean me, Bill has been ignored since before his last post, thank god.

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Then he wont' see this. See, I took up his challenge, and proved him wrong. Therefore -

Translation of the quoted post:

"Waaaah, I can't make a team, nobody loves me, what do you mean you can in minutes, you're a meanie, waaaaah!"

If he doesn't want constructive posts... he shouldn't post. Because all I'm hearing from him at this point is a spoiled little brat who, when proven *wrong,* just wants to stick his fingers in his ears and scream, making sure he learns nothing and annoys everyone.

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Okay, now that I have ignored most of the people that are not referring to the topic, maybe I can make some sense of this. So back to the topic. I have noticed that it is harder to find a team compared to 4 months ago, and pvp has gone down.Why is that?

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So you refuse to answer the question, "What makes it so much harder for you?"

I put my money where my mouth was. Went onto Freedom. Formed a team in a matter of minutes. Rolled with said team, adding people as needed. Finished most of a mission arc.

It is not harder to find a team than it is 4 months or 4 years ago.

Answer the questions I posted.

So, just logged off. Ran almost all of Darrin Wade's arc, with a team varying in size from 3-5 people, 22-25. All of which would fit perfectly fine on any "level 22" team. Took less effort than it has to write this post. Three people, including me, levelled.

I don't see the difficulty. It sure wasn't "tough" in the slightest. It wasn't "tougher" than it has been, certainly. If you look at my reg date, I started about a week earlier than that, and have been here since. I've made my share of teams in that time to compare this to. (And congrats, this is one of the few times I refer to or give a rat's rear about my reg date, because at least in this case, it's relevant.)

So again - I don't know what your difficulty is, unless you're putting such extreme restrictions on yourself that you'll, frankly, never be satisfied.

Do you require everyone to be the exact same level?
Do you require an 8 person team?
Do you require one of each AT, or any specific ATs/powersets?
What is so much more difficult for you when it comes to forming teams? This is not "snark," this is an honest question. What are you doing, looking for, or expecting when you form teams that's making this "more difficult?" To use your own words:

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Also, gj, you did the same exact thing as me.


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Yes, I did. And I got a team. And kept a team going throughout the majority of a mission arc, and it was certainly not difficult.

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Forum Cartel's sappin his team!

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Obviously his team isnt lvl 22 on the count of I see the same ppl in my /search and they are either A already on team or B not lft

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Let's see. One 22 that just levelled. Me, 25, who started the team (closest to 22 I had.) Another 23. And just snagged another 23 brute.

All people who would have worked on a team "around 22."

Edit: And just snagged a mastermind.

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Brute u snagged could be from the team I just left to go pvp after about 3 fair missions. Also, gj, you did the same exact thing as me. Also, if one of your tms is "lil" something, asked here to join, she said no thank you. Sure more people sign on and off as time passes, doesnt prove anything my friend. Once again, didnt say it was impossible, said it was tougher, freedom used to be full of people lft all day every day, however when I zone in there tends to be a silence. then a few ppl lf ae teams/farms

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What's the brute's name?

And no, none of them are "lil" anything.

"Tougher?" if this is "tougher," crap, I'd be on a team before I logged in.

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Forum Cartel's sappin his team!

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Obviously his team isnt lvl 22 on the count of I see the same ppl in my /search and they are either A already on team or B not lft

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Let's see. One 22 that just levelled. Me, 25, who started the team (closest to 22 I had.) Another 23. And just snagged another 23 brute.

All people who would have worked on a team "around 22."

Edit: And just snagged a mastermind. One brute dropped. Rolling on with a team of 4.

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Currently on a team of 5 with a lousy healer because there are like 2 healers around my level lft right now...And i sent a tell to every single 1. Go ahead, make a lvl 22 team right now, Red Side.

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This is a problem I find that is very much prevalent blueside and almost non-existent redside. You don't "need" a healer, or any archetype for that matter. Let me give an example: I ran a Moonfire TF with my Warshade a few days ago with: 3 scrappers, a blaster, and 3 Defenders. The defenders were Trick Arrow, Sonic Resonance, and Cold Domination. That means we had absolutely no heal and no Tanker. We still completed the TF in a reasonable amount of time (between an hour and a half and two hours, not entirely sure) with only four deaths throughout the whole TF.

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I have everyone on my team that would come...4 people total right now, trying to get more.

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Yes, I saw you broadcasting.

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As if any of you even understand what is being said here. I said I couldn't find a team on one specific occasion

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... and then tried being disparaging when someone *cough* went on the exact same server, within minutes of your post, and found plenty of folks willing and waiting to team. Were it not against (or at least very grey in) the forum rules, I'd have happily posted the character names of those people so you could /tell them and ask to team.

I saw no lack of "LFT" broadcasts, as well, in Cap as I went about my business either. Again, jumping from Marshall Brass to the PVP zone liason to do the talk to mission and back, I saw enough unique (as in non repeated) LFT broadcasts to have formed a near-full team if I'd so chosen to.

What your issue is, opportunity for snarky remark about that aside, I couldn't say.

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Dude, when I made the post I wasn't lft, it was addressing my experiences since coming back as compared to four months ago...man how can I put this in layman's terms for you people? You in particular do not seem to understand that it is no specific instance or day, it is that generally it is tougher to find a team. Plain and simple. As simple as I can put it.

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"Dude," I can find a team at any point, any time.

And no, to head off any chance of this being brought up, it's not because I'm a "forum name." Fewer than 10% of the population is on the server, and I don't name every character some variant of my forum name - it's not even my global *on either account.* Nor do I advertise who my characters are. Yet through two separate means (the search tab and just LFT broadcasts that came in,) I could've thrown two near-full teams together.

YOU, on the most heavily populated server, the same one I hopped on, couldn't.

I could do the same thing right now and you'd probably call it "not valid because it's a weekend" or some nonsense like that.

The issue is not the population or how difficult it is in general to find a team.

Edit: I'm half suspecting your definition of "Find a team" is "Fill up a full 8 person team before I get started or it doesn't count."

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Currently on a team of 5 with a lousy healer because there are like 2 healers around my level lft right now...And i sent a tell to every single 1. Go ahead, make a lvl 22 team right now, Red Side.

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Boom. 3 person team, myself (corruptor,) Dominator, brute. Solid team core. Total time - perhaps 3 minutes, waiting on replies from five people while we start the mission.

All names on each server are unique.

In order to have - as I do - Memphis Bill as a tank, and Memphis Bill as a Brute, they have to be on different servers. (Either that or use various capitalization tricks - like Memphis BiIl - or alter the name slightly.)

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As if any of you even understand what is being said here. I said I couldn't find a team on one specific occasion

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... and then tried being disparaging when someone *cough* went on the exact same server, within minutes of your post, and found plenty of folks willing and waiting to team. Were it not against (or at least very grey in) the forum rules, I'd have happily posted the character names of those people so you could /tell them and ask to team.

I saw no lack of "LFT" broadcasts, as well, in Cap as I went about my business either. Again, jumping from Marshall Brass to the PVP zone liason to do the talk to mission and back, I saw enough unique (as in non repeated) LFT broadcasts to have formed a near-full team if I'd so chosen to.

What your issue is, opportunity for snarky remark about that aside, I couldn't say.

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Dude, when I made the post I wasn't lft, it was addressing my experiences since coming back as compared to four months ago...man how can I put this in layman's terms for you people? You in particular do not seem to understand that it is no specific instance or day, it is that generally it is tougher to find a team. Plain and simple. As simple as I can put it.

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"Dude," I can find a team at any point, any time.

And no, to head off any chance of this being brought up, it's not because I'm a "forum name." Fewer than 10% of the population is on the server, and I don't name every character some variant of my forum name - it's not even my global *on either account.* Nor do I advertise who my characters are. Yet through two separate means (the search tab and just LFT broadcasts that came in,) I could've thrown two near-full teams together.

YOU, on the most heavily populated server, the same one I hopped on, couldn't.

I could do the same thing right now and you'd probably call it "not valid because it's a weekend" or some nonsense like that.

The issue is not the population or how difficult it is in general to find a team.

Edit: I'm half suspecting your definition of "Find a team" is "Fill up a full 8 person team before I get started or it doesn't count."

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How about setting up the initial powers of the travel pool as a first level option? You can choose -not- to have a power from your secondary at level 1 to instead have a travel power?

Sure, Tankers and Defenders would be a -lot- harder to solo without a starting attack outside of brawl... But I think it'd be neat?

-Rachel-

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Stalkers. >.>

And I'd *hate* to get stuck with the "pure whatever" defender that can't even attack to defend *itself* on a team, TBH. Or the tank, really... Bringing that up... ow. That'd just be badly broken.

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You can make a highly functional build without stamina.

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Ok, let's take this ball and run with it. What build is "highly functional" without Stamina? On what AT? And don't say regen; tell us something new. After all, the canon argument is that no one needs Stamina; one of the real thigh-slappers I remember was that people who picked up Fitness are "greedy."

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Also, right now I've got an early-20s Dark/Dark scrapper who, while I expected to need Fitness on... doesn't need it (or at least "not yet.")

Swift- for fast, non END using, non Sprint in-mission movement.
Using only the shields I need. (No death shroud right now TBH.)
Only IO is a KB resist that dropped... which keeps me from needing Acro.

Could she use it later? Possibly. But I'm not playing slowly, nor am I gasping for breath after every fight.

Similarly, as I recall, my Ice/Psy dom doesn't need it. Don't believe I have it on my Mind/Fire or Emp/Rad, either.

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As if any of you even understand what is being said here. I said I couldn't find a team on one specific occasion

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... and then tried being disparaging when someone *cough* went on the exact same server, within minutes of your post, and found plenty of folks willing and waiting to team. Were it not against (or at least very grey in) the forum rules, I'd have happily posted the character names of those people so you could /tell them and ask to team.

I saw no lack of "LFT" broadcasts, as well, in Cap as I went about my business either. Again, jumping from Marshall Brass to the PVP zone liason to do the talk to mission and back, I saw enough unique (as in non repeated) LFT broadcasts to have formed a near-full team if I'd so chosen to.

What your issue is, opportunity for snarky remark about that aside, I couldn't say.

Wow, nice.

If I had money...

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OK, I'll wait to join the cool kids club

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Just beware of the side effects.

* All of your posts suddenly have an "agenda" and nothing you say can be considered as-is. You always have a hidden meaning or a secret reason for you saying such a thing. Once you hit cartel status it's impossible to simply contribute to a conversation because from that point on you're secretly working to further your agenda.

* You're with the rest of the cartel, meaning you always agree with us no matter what. Even when you don't agree with us, those posts are considered non-canon and are ignored/avoided/unmentioned. When you do agree with us, though, it's pointed out that "you're just agreeing with the other cartel members." In the case of disagreeing with Arcanaville, you're actually just being a devil's advocate and helping Arc's power grow.

* You become in charge of the devs. Any questions, comments, or complaints made by "regular" users are ignored because the devs are tripping over themselves and eachother to find OUR posts so they can do what WE say they should be doing. This also applies to to things like Dev Choice and "getting into beta" and whatever else suits the argument at the time.

These are all just bonuses for having X number of posts, of course!

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All of my posts are actually in code.

The cut-and-paste codes are like repeating an outside entity's name... Keep copying them. You'll see what breaks through shortly. And I'll have unlimited power!

If I'm not eaten, that is. A future as an infinitely powerful being, or a future as on hors d'ouvre. I'd say it's worth the risk.

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*nitpick*

Everything is not buyable from the market. The potential to get almost everything from the market is there, yes (including things that don't exist,) but to have everything buyable from the market in fact, the market would have to be "stocked" regularly. By comparison, all standard SOs are buyable without reservation - you just have to go to the vendor and buy them. They're available any time the game is up.

Everything is, however, available via playing. It may not be a playstyle you like (such as PVP enhancements,) but that option *is* there. All the stock on the market is from someone playing, after all. And I'd much rather have someplace I can put a drop (of any sort) that I can't or don't want to use which allows someone who DOES want it a chance of getting it, than to have some marked "unsellable," where my only option is trade or vendor.

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Fair enough. Still, whenever someone talks about about tweaking out a build or something they usually put it in terms of cost, so it's assumed that these things are going to be readily available.

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Granted. And it tends to irk me when I see builds put out these days. "What's a decent build for..." "Well, just purple it out this way!" OK, but that doesn't help me get from 20-30. If a build needs, or seems to need, IOs to be workable... there's something wrong with that build, IMHO.

<sidetrack> I really wish people would give "Standard SO" or "Standard IO" builds first, with what to expect, *then* go into "And if you want to go crazy, here's an IO-d out uberbuild." </sidetrack.>

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I guess the merit system also adds a little extra fluff. You run some content, you get merits, you spend the merits on the more expensive things you're looking to get. I guess you could also use it as an extra means of earning inf if you hate farms (I hate farms). And then I guess now they have the AE tickets though I guess those are used more for salvage and stuff like that correct?

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And there's where you get what you were mentioning, with some rewards not available

You have no control (well, little) over what you roll using AE tickets - but it's a nice way to get salvage. Yes, you could luck into the IO you wanted, as well - I've gotten several KB resists and Def/Res pieces for a few characters that could use them. You have a bit more control with Merits, though again some (purples, and I'm not sure but I want to say PVP recipes) are not available. Little more time, little more work, but you can pick what you want if you have the merits.

They, and playing and the market, are all just alternate ways of getting the same stuff.

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I guess I've just played WoW too long. I'm use to having to run a raid 20 times before I get my epic dagger that ups my DPS by 400. It would seem weird to me if I were ever able to just buy said dagger I guess is my point..

My apologies for mentioning WoW >_<

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Heh, no worries. I don't know how WOW does things - I know, from friends, they have some sort of market or something. I'm assuming the dagger is bound to whoever gets it - which, frankly, I'd find *really* irritating (I know I would, since I find it irritating in Guild Wars as well - one of the reasons I rarely play it.) Still, alternate ways of getting equipment, drops, and useful items is, to me, a good thing.

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OK, I'll wait to join the cool kids club

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Go down to forum games and farm posts! >.>

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Personally, and I know this is probably just copy paste from what other MMOs have done, but I think the main reason there isn't much of an endgame is because endgame in other MMOs is driven by items that can only be achieved via completing certain content. CoH lacks this due to everything being buyable from the market. I know this probably isn't an original idea, but I think they should introduce a line of enhancements that can't be bought. Kinda like when you finish a TF and you get a choice of rewards and you can choose enhancements and recipes etc. Make those recipes and enhancements unsellable, so people actually have to go through content in order to get the best stuff instead of just having to farm for days and days to get the influence to just buy what they need.

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*nitpick*

Everything is not buyable from the market. The potential to get almost everything from the market is there, yes (including things that don't exist,) but to have everything buyable from the market in fact, the market would have to be "stocked" regularly. By comparison, all standard SOs are buyable without reservation - you just have to go to the vendor and buy them. They're available any time the game is up.

Everything is, however, available via playing. It may not be a playstyle you like (such as PVP enhancements,) but that option *is* there. All the stock on the market is from someone playing, after all. And I'd much rather have someplace I can put a drop (of any sort) that I can't or don't want to use which allows someone who DOES want it a chance of getting it, than to have some marked "unsellable," where my only option is trade or vendor.

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So it isn't just me? The same people which you referred to as "forumistas" are following me around agreeing with one another regardless of how idiotic it is? Hmmm.

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Yes. In fact, the entire Forum Cartel has made it their goal to drive you from the game by contradicting everything you say on the forums. And also cutting your brake lines.

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Hey that reminds me, I can't make the Forumites meeting this Thursday. If I could get a copy of the agenda Friday morning, I'd appreciate it.

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Has anyone else noticed that every time it's TonyV's turn to bring the food and beverages to the Forumites meeting he calls in with an excuse for not showing up?



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Y'all complained when I had some good German food catered. I do know a Greek caterer, though.

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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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It's funny that just by glancing at a post, if I see things like "Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiight" and "LOTS OF SENTENCES IN ALL CAPS" and sprinklings of things like "Sure thing," and "You bet," I immediately know it's a B_I post.

Does anyone else read B_I's posts with a valley girl voice?

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Yeah, but they come out the same no matter what. "Like, you're so totally ignoring this usah!" *hair flip*

Eh... Possibly. I think it'd be "I came up with a concept that could use it" first for me though. (Don't get me wrong, I've got a couple of /Thermal corrs as well and enjoy the set.) It's just not one I'm chomping at the bit to play as a defender.

Of course, given the (earlier-stated) "sets to appropriate ATs" goal for Proliferation, you'll see it eventually.

Hmmmm....

First thought was that it might be a bit low for that first end crash, but Hasten as I recall does that as well... so not really an issue.

I'd rename Quickfoot (IO set) and Acrobatics (Leaping pool) obviously, but that's minor.

Think I'd have to see numbers, but I could see trying to shoehorn this into my Bane (who relies on Mental Training, swift, hurdle, and sprint to get around.) >.>

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As an option, I really don't see why people think it's a bad idea and feel the need to down the OP. Oh wait...this is the suggestion forum, that's what they do here.

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You want a downside? Ok, Here ya go.

Because there are badges and rewards you get while running missions in test mode before publishing them, and an unkillable mode would allow them to exploit and farm them with no risk involved.


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... so have kills not count when in that mode. *shrug*

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"Elitist?"

If it's one or two things, I'll mention them but not have it affect the rating at all (and let them know that.) ef its' threwowt teh ark, yew hed buttur belif eym rayteng et daun. (Barring those that are done intentionally, which tend to be noted or obvious - like Freakshow.)

That's why I called it a concern instead of an objection to the idea.