Markus

First off thanks Cupa for putting this thread up!


I have 2 concern/issues,
First is that the 1 billion marker for some badges (mainly healing) is effectively unattainable for me. Since I am a completest I really want them all.
I am a blaster and getting 2 million healing pts (doctor badge) with the medicine pool took a long time, (specially with all the defenders out there with their drive by heals) So I think that the 1 Billion number should be lowered some.

2nd concern is Isolator. Will I ever be able to get it? I only play this one toon, and I started him at launch. I really think that loyalty should be rewarded, and that characters who were around before the badge system was implemented should be aloud to obtain them. It may not seem like a big deal to most, but it is to me.

Thanks for listening!

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Nothing in the world is the way it ought to be. - It's harsh, and cruel. - But that's why there's us. Champions. It doesn't matter where we come from, what we've done or suffered, or even if we make a difference. We live as though the world was what it should be, to show it what it can be.

Well I used paint pro 8 for mine so I would assume yes.

WOO-HOO! I did it!

Thanks a ton!

Just FYI, I tested this:
Microfilament Exposure – Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance Reduction: This is helpful in most travel powers. The Travel portion does not affect Teleport, only the endurance reduction part. Travel is 33% and Endurance Reduction is 33%

and Flight speed is still only 30% I don't know why they wont fix it but there it is.

Just started my 1st Warshade, thanks for the guide.

LOL!

Looks like no no one is interested, but you have to remember that this is a game where people make there own heroes. No one cares about yours no matter how good your story is. It's all about them.
However, I would like to read the rest and I have some websites where you can submit it and have it critiqued by real writers if you wish.
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Bible studies? Oh! did you tell them the story of how God was denied his rainbow fruit cereal? Oh, no wait, that was the Trixx rabbit. Sometimes I get them confused because they're both FAKE!

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How effective is Hover with 3 Microfilament Exposures? How fast? Numbers please!

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Bad news, I'm afraid. The Travel portion of Microfilament is the ONLY HO boost which is worse than an SO. A Microfilament gives a 30% speed bonus, versus the 33.3% speed bonus given by an SO. We don't know why that is. Every other HO boost is 1.5 times better than the equivilant SO.

But that means you don't want Microfilament in Hover, most likely. It's still useful to some people in Fly, as Microfilament gives a 30% Speed boost plus 50% END reduction. Which means you won't run out of END with it with Fly.

It is POSSIBLE that this is a bug, and that the Devs will fix this for the better at some point. Or they may have wanted to limit Travel Speed boosts. The ways of the Devs is a mystery ...

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I PM'd Statesman about this and he said:
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The Hammie boosts travel powers by 30%.


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so it looks like its not a bug.

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I am a bit curious. When the AT were created did you work from powers in the power sets or did you think I like Green Lantern and He has these powers so a blaster has these powers. Right now it seems the easist AT to run and solo thru the game is a tank everyone else has to pick and choose their battles. I say read a few more comic books. A spider-man or batman could not live in the city of heroes.

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For the love of Buda, pls don't put Spiderman and Batman in the same sentence. Danm now I did it.

Batman has no powers and is therefor not a SUPERhero, he is just a hero. So naturaly he couldn't make it in a town where everyone else is SUPER. But Spidey can make it anywhere, he's proven it many times.

It was the bricks TF

I think the easiest time I've had of it was with 2 def 1 cont, 1 tank, 2 scrapers and 2 blasters

But in an all blaster group we had to be very careful, but we only had 1 death because As blasters, we al used very similar tactics and new how to be safe.

The one drawback was that blasters need to be carful and that takes time. So while I did the TF in 3 hours with a mixed group it took double that with the all blaster team.

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Here is an example of a real issue with the role of blasters.
Lets take evey AT +35 and do a task force or trial with 8 members.
Group of only Controlers, If they have pets, they ussualy can complete it in record time.
Group of only Defenders, Cuts through TF and Trials like butter.
Group of only Scrappers, Seen it done and can be done.
Group of only Tanks, Takes a while but can complete it. (With Fire tanks they get it done pretty quickly)
Group of only Keldians, Haven't seen it done yet but with thier ability to shapeshift and thier multirole abilities, they should be able to do it.
Group of only Blasters, Never seen it done, EVER! You might be able to do it with a group of device blasters all slotted up smoke grenade but I haven't seen it done.

Has any group of only blaster have been able to do TF or Trials?

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I have done it

we were all different kinds of blasters, some with medecine pp, it was hard but fun we also did TV trial.

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Why does everything always have to be fair. If you dont have the time to farm hami-Os then to bad. Deal with it, dont play. Why lvl the playing field because you dont feel like farming or cant farm. Let the farmers fight each other. If you cant hang then to bad. Its no different then practicing a sport or working hard to become good at something.

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Someone willing to put up with that level of farming should have an edge.

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Why is paying a monthly fee to torture yourself supposed to be an activity worth admiring. Why do unfun activities need to be rewarded in a GAME? Words like "put up with" & "farming" do not indicate fun to me. The only fun people get out of it beyond socialization with their raid group is stroking their ego later on when they get to "pwn n00bs".

To the lawyer, you are about the first pro-HO proponent I give any respect to in 60+ pages of lame "I gots em and you don't" arguments from kids living in mom's basement.

Tell me this though, how many of those 9 HOs can you actually use? How long do you estimate it will take you on your current play schedule to get the other 31 or so you probably want to slot? (I base that 40 number on power slots that people actually care about like primary, secondary, and pool.)

I am an engineer with a wife who is not in the best of health that I spend a lot of time taking care of and not only do I resent the TIME I have to spend to farm hami to compete in PVP but the QUALITY of the entertainment I'm paying for if I were to do so. I don't really see Hami as an open raid either since every Hami raid I have heard of has taken advance planning and scheduling of 20+ people. This is just not what entertainment should be and I say that from the perspective of someone who has done the mega raid thing over at least 10 more MUDs/MMOs than probably anyone reading this post. Raids I can enjoy in some games where there is actually enough varied raid+quest content to make it interesting and NO pvp (such as EQ2, where raids are not that hard to organize, mainly because you can succeed with a much wider variety of tactics than you can vs. Hami, not to mention they have raids for less people.) but in this game it is definitely dividing the playerbase into two seperate camps.

It is a dead horse but I will resurrect it here for the record:

Many, many players who were sick of item-centric MMOs made this their game, and a big part of choosing CoH was getting away from all that garbage. This is going to burn a lot of them.

Don't even kid yourself and think they are "lazy" or "cowards" or "noobs" or whatever label strokes your ego. They just choose not to participate in the same mindless MMO treadmill madness they've seen in 13421434365346 games before this. one. I almost want to start the "Disillusioned MMO Vets" supergroup (Slogan: "The DMV is Hell on Earth" ) and kill Hami everytime he spawns now but:

1. You'd all continue to miss the point.

2. More importantly, the MMO industry would continue to miss the point.

3. It's a boring raid.

4. Organizing people quickly turns into work instead of fun.

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I want to respond to this in pieces.

First, I never said farming should be admired. I don't think ANYTHING in a video game should be admired. I admired my baby son when he learn to grab and play with his daddy's lip last week, I don't care what people do in this game, it earns them no special admiration from me.

Now as to "fun". Well that's the most subjective term in the world. Some people actually enjoy herding. I don't. I'll admit I let my principles lapse a bit on the final push to 50, but I didn't enjoy it.

Second as to my 9 HOs (ten now, I did a raid this evening ). I can use them ALL! I wasn't counting the lame debuff ones I sold for cash. I've done about 15-16 raids. Usually just by staying logged in at the Hive. I play my alt listen to the global chat channel devoted to Justice raids and when the call goes out, I log on my main.

Like some others have stated, I really do enjoy the raids. Not so much for the fight, which is rote. But more because you get to meet new people, you always see a brand new level 50 eager to start getting into the raid. That's really fun to see. People joke and argue and its like a big party. And a lot more fun one than the lame nerfed Paragon Dance Party!

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I am an engineer with a wife who is not in the best of health that I spend a lot of time taking care of and not only do I resent the TIME I have to spend to farm hami to compete in PVP but the QUALITY of the entertainment I'm paying for if I were to do so. I don't really see Hami as an open raid either since every Hami raid I have heard of has taken advance planning and scheduling of 20+ people. This is just not what entertainment should be and I say that from the perspective of someone who has done the mega raid thing over at least 10 more MUDs/MMOs than probably anyone reading this post. Raids I can enjoy in some games where there is actually enough varied raid+quest content to make it interesting and NO pvp (such as EQ2, where raids are not that hard to organize, mainly because you can succeed with a much wider variety of tactics than you can vs. Hami, not to mention they have raids for less people.) but in this game it is definitely dividing the playerbase into two seperate camps.


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My best wishes for your wife's speedy recovery. I'm truly sorry to hear that. I agree with you by the way about dividing the playerbase. I wish they would give HO level enhancers for completion of trial, task forces and story arcs. That would make them available to all. I wish they would let people construct them, but I guess people hate tradeskills even worse than loot farming. I don't support having these enhancers come from only one encounter. But the fact remains that they do. I don't think the fix is to deny their use in PvP to those who can do the raids. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't seem fair to me.

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Many, many players who were sick of item-centric MMOs made this their game, and a big part of choosing CoH was getting away from all that garbage. This is going to burn a lot of them.

Don't even kid yourself and think they are "lazy" or "cowards" or "noobs" or whatever label strokes your ego. They just choose not to participate in the same mindless MMO treadmill madness they've seen in 13421434365346 games before this. one. I almost want to start the "Disillusioned MMO Vets" supergroup (Slogan: "The DMV is Hell on Earth" ) and kill Hami everytime he spawns now but:

1. You'd all continue to miss the point.

2. More importantly, the MMO industry would continue to miss the point.

3. It's a boring raid.

4. Organizing people quickly turns into work instead of fun.

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The thing about MMOs is that the reasons for things like loot and tradeskills and other such nonsense is that you need that stuff to sustain a game. I don't care how much content they add, developers will never get the majority of people to play more than 1-2 characters to the level cap. Thus there has to be something to do when you get there. In ALL MMOs I'm aware of that's farm loot. It's the additional carrot that keeps us playing. It's working for me. After I finished a couple of story arcs there will be nothing more for my main. I can probably level an alt to 50, but after that, I really don't see myself getting another character to 50. Only so many times you can play through the same content.

I know how much it sucks to be a casual gamer who can't keep up with kids who have much more time to play than you. I also play EQ2, EQOA, and WoW. I can't keep up with the kids in those games. They will always be better than I am because of their gear. I accept that. I have real, tangible things in my life to be proud of. As an engineer and husband so do you. I personally admire you much, much more for taking care of your wife. Even if you were the all-server champ of CoH, I would admire you more for taking care of your family.

In these MMOs, people play for a lot of different reason. I play to escape into another world that doesn't include judges and depositions and motions. I think a lot of people play to find some success that's missing in their real life.

Whatever the reason, you have to keep this stuff in perspective. I really wish they had never added PvP to CoH, because it brings out the worse in the player base. But now that they have, I think that people who play a lot and have more and better enhancers have a right to the spoils of their labor.

Remember its not their fault that Hami-Os are in the game. The developers put them there and based on Statesman's post, it seem like he's ok with the edge they give.

Well this reply has run on too long and I think I made my point.

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Good post. I give you 4 stars for it ( I always admire people who can put down on paper what I have in my head) and a bonus for your avitar.

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I just want to say though, that just because You think the raid isn't fun doesn't mean that its not fun.

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Right, what you think is fun and what I think is fun ain't the same. Thats what we've been trying to point out.

Once you admit (40+!) Raids are fun for some but not everyone how do you justify tying PvP achievement to it? Why do you bank CoV's success on it?

HOs are gonna be "killer" in PvP (statesman said so). Doing lots of raids to get lots HOs is fun for some but not for everyone (if i believe you find them fun you should be able to believe i don't).

Put it together and what do you get: A bunch of folks forced into doing something they don't find fun so they can be "killer" in PvP.

That, in a nutshell, is the problem. Same old MMO problem.

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Hmm I dont think its a problem. Now if you don't like fighting Hami, don't do it.
It may mean that some (I think a much smaller percentage than popularly thought) will beat you in PVP. So What? If you get beaten by that much and know someone is using them, don't compete against him again. The end problem solved.
I think that a lot of small guilds of Non-HamiOs will form, and you can compete with them. In fact I think that if nothing is done to change the current situation with HamiO's in the arena. People will very quickly figure it out for them selves. Someone can lie about not having HamiOs. But he can only do it once or twice before everyone knows who he is. Especialy now that we can all see his global handle, (he wont be able to try with different toons.)
For the most part, people will be honest about it and we'll be able to solve these issues easily I think.

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Someone willing to put up with that level of farming should have an edge.

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Why is paying a monthly fee to torture yourself supposed to be an activity worth admiring. Why do unfun activities need to be rewarded in a GAME? Words like "put up with" & "farming" do not indicate fun to me. The only fun people get out of it beyond socialization with their raid group is stroking their ego later on when they get to "pwn n00bs".

To the lawyer, you are about the first pro-HO proponent I give any respect to in 60+ pages of lame "I gots em and you don't" arguments from kids living in mom's basement.

Tell me this though, how many of those 9 HOs can you actually use? How long do you estimate it will take you on your current play schedule to get the other 31 or so you probably want to slot? (I base that 40 number on power slots that people actually care about like primary, secondary, and pool.)

I am an engineer with a wife who is not in the best of health that I spend a lot of time taking care of and not only do I resent the TIME I have to spend to farm hami to compete in PVP but the QUALITY of the entertainment I'm paying for if I were to do so. I don't really see Hami as an open raid either since every Hami raid I have heard of has taken advance planning and scheduling of 20+ people. This is just not what entertainment should be and I say that from the perspective of someone who has done the mega raid thing over at least 10 more MUDs/MMOs than probably anyone reading this post. Raids I can enjoy in some games where there is actually enough varied raid+quest content to make it interesting and NO pvp (such as EQ2, where raids are not that hard to organize, mainly because you can succeed with a much wider variety of tactics than you can vs. Hami, not to mention they have raids for less people.) but in this game it is definitely dividing the playerbase into two seperate camps.

It is a dead horse but I will resurrect it here for the record:

Many, many players who were sick of item-centric MMOs made this their game, and a big part of choosing CoH was getting away from all that garbage. This is going to burn a lot of them.

Don't even kid yourself and think they are "lazy" or "cowards" or "noobs" or whatever label strokes your ego. They just choose not to participate in the same mindless MMO treadmill madness they've seen in 13421434365346 games before this. one. I almost want to start the "Disillusioned MMO Vets" supergroup (Slogan: "The DMV is Hell on Earth" ) and kill Hami everytime he spawns now but:

1. You'd all continue to miss the point.

2. More importantly, the MMO industry would continue to miss the point.

3. It's a boring raid.

4. Organizing people quickly turns into work instead of fun.

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Dude I'm not going to argue your point, 'cause it's your opinion. I just want to say though, that just because You think the raid isn't fun doesn't mean that its not fun.

I have done the raid about 30 times now, and each time I learn more about SG mates, or meat a new friend, and I get to enjoy teaming with 100+ players. I think it rocks. I love all the work it took to finaly learn how to take this guy down, and I love refining the process.
(For the record I live with my GF and have a full time job, so does she, and we run a business on the side.)

bunp

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Anyone complaning about how they don't like it, don't have to do it. But then thay shouldn't complain about others who receive the awards for doing it.

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So, even if your playstyle will ruin or limit our PvP enjoyment -- we shouldn't complain?

That's basically what your choices boil down to -- fight from a severe disadvantage, farm a raid I don't enjoy, skip or limit my PvP experience (and probably skip CoV).

I don't care if you want to spend "extreme amounts of time" on a game until it starts to impact my fun. From everything you've said I have no reason to think it won't impact my fun -- just look at your 4 choices.

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I know I said I wouldn't reply but this is a new thought.

Have you been having fun playing CoH so far? Do you like your toons? The TF's? The cool plot lines and missions? Am I stoping you from doing any of those things by having HamiOs?.......No I am not.

I am not stoping you from having fun. If you want to compete in a PVP match you have to accept that others will be better than you for a variety of reasons.
If you want to do PvP and not face HamiOs you have the choice of playing with your friends, SGs or people you trust.

Otherwise don't join PVP, just play the game the way you were and have fun.

See my play style = zero impact on you.

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OK, I have a couple of questions:

1) Why are there "Private SG Only" raids...especially on Justice server? People are actually asked to leave so others can enjoy themselves more. I guess some $15 dollars a month is worth more than others.

2) If to fully slot your toon with HO requires a few raids, this is before Hami Patch, what other purpose would you have other than to try and dominate PvP. I mean your so close to 50, are these enhancements that much of a help. If you already are 50, and you consider this end game content, then why fully slot your toon with HO's, you have already beat everything with your SOs?
Anyone one that says he fully slotted his toon with HOs cuz that is the only thing left to do at the end of the game is full of it. They would never have done so many raids if HOs were not allowed in the arena.

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I've said it before, I have a really great time donig the Hami event (and I've done 20+). Anyone complaning about how they don't like it, don't have to do it. But then thay shouldn't complain about others who receive the awards for doing it.

I think I'm starting to repeat myself here so this is my last post on this topic, but to some up.
You have a choice.
-Choice to fight someone with HamiO's
-Choice to get HamiO's or not
-Choice to avoid PvP all together
-choice to only do PvP in your SG or with friends.

So anyway I choose to enjoy this game should be of minimal effect to you. (With the exception of Syxxblade who is my RL friend, and who's [censored] I now have to kick both with HamiO's and without on test.)

Enjoy the game, if you're not willing to play an extreme amount of time, don't be mad that there are people who do. It's OK, It's just a game.

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And when you cut through all this Bushido BS that's the problem right there. And a problem that goes against the very core concept and the big selling pont of coh, it's a game for the casual gamer.

It's a game where we were told we can log in for a couple, do some missions, and we'll still be making progress, it's a game where you didn't have to devote every undying hour keeping up with your crafting, your raids, your camping that special mob for your phat lewt, and have a guild from hell behind you to keep up with everyone else.

I bought coh to get away from the very "hardcore" time sink crap that seems to be praised as what keeps a game alive. As I'll wager a lot of people did who were sick of the EQ and WoW loot/craft/raid mentality, and if things keep going as is will I stay?

BZZT WRONG!



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Actually It detracts from you in no way. You can play this game anyway you want. In fact i have several toons that I have no plans for other than going through the material slowly with my brother and having some fun PVP with him.
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If coh goes that route I won't hang around to play EQ in tights, I don't camp, don't raid, don't farm, and if that automatically is going to disqualify me like it did in EQ, daoc, and swg, because I didn't have the resources to keep up (specially with pvp in the latter 2) Then I won't bother playing because there's no damn point. and when cov comes out there will persist in being no point, as HO'ed heroes go tearing through the pvp in that as well. I'll spend the 15 a month elsewhere thanks.

But I didn't put in the work you say, so i should be lesser right? BULL**** That's not work, the only thing your vaunted work shows is you have the patience to sit through a slide show 24/7 to farm and camp one mob for an item that's not even related to the skill level of your toon or you. If that's your idea of fun more power to you, cause it sure as hell aint mine. But again to say that players should be rewarded for the very thing coh again tries to discourage (items, farming, and camping) and it needs more of that rather then less just shows one thing, you've got more time on your hands then me, not that you worked any harder.


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OK I was heavily involved with coming up with the strategies that eventually brought down Hamidon, that took a lot of work, planning and effort, not to mention organizational skills. If you choose not to get accolades or get HO's that doesn't make you lesser, it doesn't make you anything. It's your choice. But don't begrudge someone else who wanted the extra little bits the game had to offer and went for it. It just means they were more interested in some aspects of the game than you and benefited from it. That has no effect on you.

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We both work to get to 50, that's real work, farming and clicking a button every few minutes isn't, that's just stupid. And the fact that i'm being told now that I need to adopt a powergamer mentality for the last 5 levels of my casual game really goes against the grain.

And all it takes is skill to beat the HO user? Again BULL****



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Maybe you should try organizing/participating in these raids before you judge them on hearsay? I have a blast at the raids I have a fun SG with great members, We do try and use many different tactics, and the biggest skill we use is working as a team......but you don't exactly sound like a team player....

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Tell ya what chief, if you think skill is all it takes, take your toon solo, a squishy not a scrapper or tank, walk up to antimatter, and try to solo him.

Now that you've just been royally beaten into the ground 5 seconds later if not outright one shotted, tell me this, how do you think back on the loss, and prepare for a second match with him?


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Actually my 1st combat with him and a team was a loss, then we beat him, Recently I soloed him to a draw, and I am a Blaster. I think that If I can change the terrain a little more, I have a good chance of beating him. (it make take a few tries....)
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answer? You CAN'T. If you're at your max ability (green SO's) and you get whammed down by someone who has more shiny equipment then you (HO are's not work or skill they are equipment period) Then you can't train, you can't prepare, you can't do jack. There's no way to win when by the time my defender finishes her first debuff animation that blaster with 300% damage thanks to HO's and 400% cap with build up has just 2 shotted me.

As with AV's there's no amount of skill that can save you from a one shot, your only choice when someone has a bigger gun, and no amount of training can keep you from dodging the bullet, is to get the same gun he has to level the field. which means being forced to do just as much farming, or you may as well not bother trying again.


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There's a ton of things you can do to lv the playing field, some of the common ones are good use of terrain, and movement powers, and plan ahead with Inspirations.
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Oh and there's no honor in fighting a battle when the outcome is decided before the fight even begins, that's suicide plain and simple.


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Never been one to care for honor or Bushido, (I like Aikido and believe in some of the mandates but I certainly don't follow any one path) But sometimes it is necessary to take the hit to learn something, or lull someone into false confidence. Many tricks can be pulled off if you let yourself lose once or twice 1st
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No thanks, I'll pass if that's what pvp does bcome.

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Lots of negativity in your post. If this game isn't what you like thats cool but be sure to judge it for what it is and not what you heard it might be. I really think there's is room in this game for all types of players. (Even the grumpy ones )

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Ah That is a big difference between us, rank doesn't concern me at all,

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It only concerns me in so far as as I don't want some bozo earning 'bragging rights' because he pulled out a metaphorical howitzer.

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Yes I see your point. But So what?

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So the defeat goes on his record, and his rank drops accordingly.

UNLESS.

wait a minute. maybe this is what the mysterious post earlier on was about.

Maybe not all fights will *be* ranked? Maybe you can choose to just have a 'friendly' before you actually play for points?

That would... well. It would make quite a difference. I don't care overmuch if someone pwnz my stormy self a dozen times over, HOs or not, if the fight isn't actually *counting* for anything.

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Ah That is a big difference between us, rank doesn't concern me at all, I play and dont generaly pay attentention to ranks or ratings, I want to win , but each event is personal and I try and learn from mistakes. But as you say if they could have both ranked and not rank bouts I'm sure it would pls everyone and solve a lot of problems.

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all folks are reporting a decrease in using the travel portion of HOs.

Likely a bug and should be submitted and put in the technical section so the devs can see it.

i have Teleport so I can't test the numbers myself

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Thanks Mal, Ill do that.

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And the Hamidon guy himself has another choice. Find another nonhamidon equipped sucker to fight to continue to rise through the ranks, or try to humiliate the same person again.

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There is no shame in defeat. If you feel humiliated by the loss to a superior opponent that's your problem, not mine or his.

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I'm sorry, but I don't really follow any of this "way of the warrior" mumbo jumbo stuff.

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Nothin to do with Warrior stuff. Has to do with a healthy emotional state.
Mr. Erik the alone......who's quote is: Jerk, Defeatist, Coward<--- My forum badges

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[quoteI'm not going to dissagree with anything you wrote (though in answer to your question, no I dont see anything wrong with profesionals playing amateur sports, but you will notice that very few do because of the lack of challenge) But I will make this comment: Do you realy think you as a self proclaimed amateur, who has spent less than 1/4 of the amount of time I've spent playing, are on equal footing? wouldn't someone who practices something everyday, out match someone who doesn't?
I have an unenhanced toon on test named Markus V8.3 and I would love to test your "equal footing" theory.

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Great, I'll see you on there as Thermion. when you say unenhanced, do you mean no enhancements or SOs?

Oh, and, don't get me wrong. I fully expect to get stomped into the ground. I do hope to put up a good fight, but A) it's a fire tanker and therefore built for AoE PvE, and B) as you've pointed out, you have far more game time than I do. I don't mind losing to someone who's a better player. I mind losing to someone's equipment.

Also, I thought some more about the "I've spent a lot of time making my character the best he can be argument," and I'd like to say that's not entirely true. None of us have worked hard to make our characters the best they can be in the PvP arenas yet. We've been getting stuff that until very soon could only be used in a PvE setting. While some of the skills are similar, there's enough different there that I can see an argument that HOs should not perform in the fundamentally same manner. A similar analogy would be: I know how to drive very well. I have also built the very best NASCAR race car that I could, given the rules, time and money that I had available to me. I would like to compete in Formula One racing. I can take my skills, which will need to be modified a pretty fair amount based on the equipment I'm going to be using and the different rules involved in that style of racing, but I can't take my NASCAR car along. I'll have to use the Formula One cars provided instead.

As with all analogies, it's not entirely 1:1. If it were, it wouldn't be an analogy. But here's the thing: all the time that you've spent in PvE, past mastering the controls of your character, does not necessarily have to count towards your PvP skill or equipment. We're only assuming it does/should because that seems simplest. But the truth of it is that even the hardest PvE player, with 8 slots filled with level 50 characters, has already gotten out of the game something for the time they've put into it: massive PvE skills and HOs that work in PvE as far as the eye can see. Why should across-the-board uberness in one gamestyle automatically mean across-the-board uberness in another? Why should the amount of time you've put into the PvE content automatically mean your domination in the PvP arenas?

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Cool, I can unslot everything if you wish, but as it stands its all SO++.

I see what you're saying about pvp vs pve, but I still think someone who logged in more time has a better chance than someone who hasnt. If for no other reason than I have my binds and controls set perfectly and more practice using them.
But I guess we'll put it to the test right?
(oops bad pun sry)

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And the Hamidon guy himself has another choice. Find another nonhamidon equipped sucker to fight to continue to rise through the ranks, or try to humiliate the same person again.

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There is no shame in defeat. If you feel humiliated by the loss to a superior opponent that's your problem, not mine or his.
And he has the same problem you do. How does he know who has them and who doesn't?