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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay View Post
    Relative to other Contacts, Dean isn't that sleazy.
    Remember, she knows that he will hit on women. Thus he is scum.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Hero 1 said it at Hero Con - Tyrant's promotion system is based on the ability of an underling to defeat their boss.
    That way, he'll always have the strongest or most devious people as his officers, and they'll always be trying to improve themselves to protect themselves from their underlings trying to take their position, and also giving themselves a chance to replace their own boss too.
    Of course, you're missing that even the lowest ranking 'cop' in that world has still shown he has decided to uphold Tyrant's way of life. Thus, one doesn't really need to be in a very high position to have more power than the sheep who enjoy Tyrant's ideal, yet do nothing to support it. I expect this will be like '20s movies police, rampant corruption at all ranks, with only a few good apples that actually care about the people, more than their badge.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Well, there's the possibility that you'll get to beat up some of your bosses, as that's the way Tyrant likes his promotion system to work - like the Praetroian Police officer you're running errands for for the first few levels could be the end boss of a later arc where you have to prove your increased power to a new superior - so while you'd still be taking orders, you might still feel you were making progress through the ranks.
    Who said they have to beat up on the people above them anyway? Those people are offering the Villain-in-training a venue for his violence and a steady supply of victims. It's like killing the Goose to get to the Golden Eggs inside.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja View Post
    As soon as Six descends from orbit, there'll be hell to pay.
    Descends from...wha?
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    As the Incarnate conent is contained in the zone events in the four new Praetorian zones, I think it's quite likely you won't have too much interaction with Arachnos or Longbow.

    You might also be pleased to know that the Going Rogue system won't use contacts - so you'll be saved from further abuse and humiliation at the hands of Arachnos contacts
    On our way to being Heroes.


    Yay.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Sure - you can show me your archvillain badge just as soon as you're done polishing Recluse's boots

    But more seriously, you can't really complain that you're treated like a servant, then say you're an archvillain too - you have to be either one or the other
    She's got a badge that says she's an Arch Villain. I've got a badge that says my character is the Origin of Power. Given the reaction of our masters, the contacts I'd say neither one of them is really true.
  7. Would also like to comment that this:

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    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    With the option to double cross Recluse
    Is unlikely. I know we talk about beating Recluse up as a Villain. Do you know what we get as a reward for doing so? We get to fulfill the very plan that he broke us out of the Zig for. [sarcasm]What an honor.[/sarcasm]

    Seriously, the reason he breaks his new Servants out of the Zig is because one of his Fortunata saw that someone among them is strong enough to take down Statesman. Finding which one is the right one is something he calls Operation: Destiny.

    Unsurprisingly to anyone, if a character is able to take down one Incarnate, he can take down another. Thus you become a threat to Recluse's reign and the world's safety. You them beat up future Recluse to show that you're not one to be messed with. As a result Recluse says he's going to stop Operation: Destiny, since it's too late to stop the war that would result because of it. And then he offers you the chance to go beat up Statesman, the very point of Operation: Destiny to begin with.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    I wasn't being serious

    BAB has already said that emote interaction between avatars is almost impossible.
    Better to quell stuff like that before the rumors start. Devs already catch enough flak without letting comments like that bite them.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Is there a new high five emote?
    Text option when dealing with the contact.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    With the option to doublecross Recluse

    Also, you are a villain in CoV - you might even be a supervillain - but you're just never an archvillain - so you really are exaggerating when you say you're not a villain in CoV
    No, you really are just a servant, lackey or other word for minion. Even at 50, you're still bottom of the totem pole. And like you said, it's not going to change any time soon.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    That might be something to do with Statesman being a veteran hero and Recluse being a power crazed dictator - one of those two types is more likely to have an impact on the area where they live
    Still doesn't change the fact that Heroes will be given free will on the Incarnate system, and Villains - no, Servants, because you don't actually get to be a Villain in that game - will be ordered about as usual.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by gec72 View Post
    edit: really, some of these contacts shouldn't even be villainous at all. Their arcs should be them giving you information they don't want you to have, but you do things to force it out of them.
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    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Stuff like that could possibly break the T rating.
    Not necessarily. All you need is a mission where you click a computer desk to download potential blackmail material, or an escort mission where the hostage has the same last name as the contact.
  13. Have yet to see my clone in that mission, actually.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    As Recluse and Statesman are the two main Incarnates in the game lore, it seems quite possible that the Incarnate System might use them as a hook.
    And yet Heroes don't have Statesman shoved into every aspect of their lives. Heck it was several years before he was even seen in the game outside of a single instanced mission.

    Something tells me Heroes will be able to explore the Incarnate idea of their own free will, without interaction from Statesman.
  15. That'd be my guess. The jig is up, after all.
  16. Has the background of Pocket D been similarly reclassified?
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Words frequently associated with villains

    Also, from what I've heard, he's a little less big on the dignity, decency and respect if you're not male - like he actually tries hitting on you
    Villains who are a threat usually get this treatment from those weaker than themselves. Minions of Thugs are the ones that usually don't.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Something like the Incarnate System could invovle you being sent by Recluse to investigate whatever it is that's going to be the source of it, and then double crossing him to get the power for yourself, making you an incarnate, and so you'd then be his equal in power.
    Or you could be sent to Praetoria to investigate the new dimension because Recluse trusts you as an equal, and thinks only someone with your power would be capabale of the mission.
    Or, more in line with the current mode of thinking, he's going to order you to Praetoria, because he doesn't expect you to survive and would rather save his Wolf Spiders for something important.
  19. To be honest, the new arcs really aren't anything special. They boil down just like any other to 'go here, kill this, click that'. And yet the new Villain arc is widely considered the best thing ever done in the game. Why? If I were to guess it's because D-Mac actually sees your character as a power and a real threat in the isles. He actually treats the character with respect, dignity, and decency. If it can be done here, why can't it be done anywhere else?

    EDIT: Removed redundancy.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    I'm pretty sure CoV lets you progress past the purse snatching phase of villainy
    No, not really.

    Lemme go back to your Scrubs reference from a few pages back. You mentioned thinking that Villains were JD to Recluse's Dr. Cox. To make it more accurate, let's imagine that there's someone that JD treats exactly like Dr. Cox treats him. Now let's further imagine that this person treats someone else similarly. We'll call that person at the bottom there Paul Chalmers, or PC for short. Now PX actually has the medical knowledge, credentials and expertise to outshine Dr. Cox, and in fact does so on a regular basis. And yet they still get crapped on by people who get crapped on. And why?

    Well, that's a question we PCs have been trying to answer for a while now.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    No - I think it's cool players can be villains as well as heroes - but they can't really expect the same treatment from the game, because the midnset of villains means their chosen path is going to be rougher than the heroic path.
    Essentially; "Don't expect to be anything more than a purse snatcher, because you as a player Villain have no power, and can't even stand up to a level 1 minion."

    No dice. We've not been asking to be revered like Heroes, but feared as someoen of the power we display in game. Just like Heroes, there's no NPC that can stand up to us. Yet none of them consider us more threatening than the dead ficus.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    If you go from Villain to Rogue, and get access to Paragon City, doing evil there will tip you back to being a full villain, and you'd be locked out of the blue side until you did enough good deeds to become a Rogue again
    Essentially, if you want to be treated decently by the game, you need to leave Villainy behind. Thus, City of Villains was a complete waste of time, effort and money and should be shut down.

    That about sum it up?
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    I am listening - and "could" just leads to "well why can't I then?"
    Because we don't need to. And often, ruling the world is actually more limiting to what Villains want than anything else.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    But that's back to the same problem - the game says you're actually the true power in Arachnos, but it won't let you actualy do anything to follow that up.
    You're not listening. We don't have to actually do anything. It would just be nice if the NPCs would recognize that we COULD, and thus don't continually try to piss us off.
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    So doesn't the failure of Arachnos make your success at killing, kidnapping, robbing a destroying look even better? Like you're the only competent villain in town?
    Most Villains aren't in it for the publicity, either. Sure you get some like the Joker, who intentionally try to get one over on the Bat from day one, but most Villains actually try to keep their actions quiet and off the radar at first. It's only AFTER the Hero has messed every thing up that they start on the revenge ploys. And even then, some times it can take several trips to jail before it starts getting to them.

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    I wouldn't really care - villains are the ego maniacs - real heroes just do what needs to be done, regardless of any praise they get
    Well, I must say I didn't actually expect you to be OK with a game insulting players.