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Quote:They were banned.Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
Mod12 contacted your privates?..
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Quote:Then what I said wouldn't apply to you, now would it?Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Perhaps you don't understand what I'm doing.
No. Not perhaps.
I'm not bashing them for (finally) listening to their players (after the players fought back in the media and monetarily).
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Quote:Except:Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Wrong.
When someone can issue a command in-game to return your RealID, you're boned.
And, since the GMs direct a majority of tech support questions to the forums, forum use CANNOT be treated as "optional"
1) The in-game command would be one of those things that would have needed to be changed.
2) They could have bypassed the second complaint by not requiring you to go to the forums for additional tech support. Which, to be honest, isn't something that should be happening in the first place to begin with.
But when it comes down to it, it doesen't change my original point: Blizzard planned to make a move people didn't like. People complained. Blizzard LISTENED. You don't have to "trust them", or continue to buy their products. But to continue to bash the hell out of them for *LISTENING* to the playerbase is idiotic. -
Quote:I'm not calling them "Valiant Heroes". I'm saying that it's not fair to continue to bash them for actually listening to their playerbase, rather then just essentially telling them to [censored] off.Originally Posted by Quincy_Archer
No but I wouldn't be calling them valiant heroes who did the right thing either.
If you had asked someone to not touch something and then they decided "screw you I'm going to pick it up and run around with it." You probably wouldn't be happy. If they put it back after you and everyone else yelled at them it wouldn't be forgiven because the original disrespect is still there.
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Quote:And yet in all the times I've played WoW, I never once bothered to use their forums. Plus, that would have been one of the legitimate concerns that I consider would have needed to be addressed.Originally Posted by RaiderRich2001
Have you paid attention to this thread at all? Blizzard directs technical support issues to their forums.
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Quote:Except it's not a violation when you have the ability to chose. In this case, you could have chosen NOT to use their forums, and thus it wouldn't be displayed. Now, as for friends of friends being able to see your real ID? Yeah, THAT needs to be changed.Originally Posted by RaiderRich2001
When it comes to a violation of people's privacy, they never should have considered it at all.
And they still haven't completely taken everything their doing back, just the posting of real names in the forums. There's still ways to get someone's name via addons involving Real ID.
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Quote:And with that, I agree, and was one of the legitimate concerns mentioned in another post.Originally Posted by Dark One
Also, there is the matter of friends of friends seeing the RealID names. Unless that has also been changed or I am completely misreading that. If a friend of a friend, who you may or may not know, has the opportunity to find out the RL names of others, then there is also another problem.
The only ones that should be able to see your real name are those you chose to let see it. Not friend of friend of friend, etc. -
Quote:Except that in principle, it wasn't a bad idea. Were there some legitimate concerns that needed to be addressed? Yes. But the idea itself wasn't a bad idea. And even if it WAS a truly bad idea, would you have prefer they just told their fanbase "[censored] it, quit your crying, and deal with it"? Or would you have prefered they listen, like they did?Originally Posted by Quincy_Archer
It was more of analogy. My point being that this being a catch 22 is like there being an honest con man. They are getting flak both ways because it was a bad choice to begin with.
Kowtowing to pressure, a good person does not make. Especially if you were in the wrong from the getgo. -
Quote:Except you would have STILL had controll over your name and identity, BY NOT POSTING ON THEIR FORUMS. Keep in mind, forums are no way essential to a game. Look at CoH/V: It's widely been known that only around 1% of the playerbase is active on the forums.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
My control over my personal privacy is more important to me than my money. Also, my bank deposits are insured by the FDIC.
To be clear, I don't oppose the use of real identities on the internet as an absolute. I participate in many mailing lists and public forums under my real name, and I am really googleable. But those are all voluntary choices, and for every one I opt into, there are many more I decide to avoid.
If Blizzard had made real names and identities mandatory from the start, I would have avoided the game like the plague but I wouldn't consider them an evil company for doing it. Its your choice to play WoW or not. And it still is. But when a company reverses their privacy stance and shows absolutely no sign whatsoever that this is a controversial decision or that it will have a negative impact on their customers, that tells me whoever made this decision really doesn't care about customer privacy at all. They are a legal-eagle that only cares about what the letter of the law lets them get away with, and not the values their customers might hold dear.
What angers me most when something like this happens is that its usually some ivory tower person that thinks they are personally untouchable. It never occurs to them that the only reason why people like them can get away with what they do is because there are a lot of other people that aren't willing to play the game with the same utter lack of ethics.
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Quote:You can't honestly compare Blizzard wanting people to use their real names on a forum to robbing a bank.Originally Posted by Quincy_Archer
Only if you put yourself in the situation.
Like if you rob a bank you are still the bad guy if you return the money after the cops surround your house and the news crews come out. Especially if your original intention was to keep the money.
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Quote:Sooo... If they go through with this, then they are a horrible company for not listening to their playerbase and instituting a change that nobody likes.Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Uhm. WHY?
Seriously. They went and pulled a massive, PUBLIC cranio-rectal insertion maneuver.
They then got bitchsmacked by a very vocal portion of their userbase and lost a not-isignificant number of subscriptions over this.
They also got handed a large, slimy poop sandwich by several large media outlets about it too.
So, under threat of collapsing their paying playerbase, they caved.
Why exactly should they get kudos for this?
They shot themselves in the foot, then resolved not to do that again with their other foot. At least just yet...
That's NOT something deserving of an "attaboy".
If they don't, then they are a horrible company for "caving to their playerbase".
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Quote:"Inovation" does not necessarily mean "better".Originally Posted by Brillig
You know, I had this reflex Pavlovian thing about 'must have D3', but the more I see trailers and such for it... it doesn't seem that exciting. It seems like D2 with better graphics, and I'm wondering, haven't they figured out anything inovative to do in ten years?
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Dear Moderator 12,
I would like to suggest that you use this as an avatar:
Sincerely,
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Quote:In the case of the boy, I have to wonder... would he have acted the way he did had he NOT had anonymity in the first place?Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
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Quote:Hell, Marcian can't get ENOUGH CoX. Why, just the other day, Marcian was going on about he/she/it just LOVES the CoX! Heck, Marcian just can't resist checking out CoX and logging on and off alllll night long!Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Why not? X is a variable, and you aren't sure what one likes most. It's almost gender neutral and the most useful. I love CoX.
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Y'know, we really need to make some avatars for TheOcho and Moderator12. Also, Moderator12, can I call you Mod12, or Moddie? Or how about late for dinner?
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Quote:...What do you mean, Jimmy went to go live on a farm? WHY DO ALL MY FRIENDS KEEP GOING TO LIVE ON FARMS?!Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Probably not the time to tell him Jimmy moved last week...
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Quote:When you become Real ID friends with someone, they get to see your first and last name. As in, the first and last name you signed up with. Plus, they will be able to see the first and last name of any other player you are real ID friends with.Originally Posted by Solos
I thought the Real ID thing was like your global name here? Is it not the y from x@y in the SC2 names?
Quote:Similar to other social-networking platforms, when you click on one of your Real ID friends, you will be able to see the names of his or her other Real ID friends, even if you are not Real ID friends with those players yourself. If you happen to know someone on that list, you will be able to quickly send a Real ID friend request to that player. This feature is designed to make it easy to populate your Real ID friends list with people you might enjoy playing with. -
Quote:You means it's NOT?Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Besides, there are plenty of people that are very to me that consider "Marcian" my real name.
...What else have you lied to me about?! I BET YOUR NOT EVEN MY REAL MOM! YOU MARRIED DAD FOR THE MONEY! I HATE YOU, AND I'M GOING TO JIMMIES! *Runs out crying& -
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Quote:Yes, President Stewie!Originally Posted by Decorum
**eyes narrow**
Put this one on "The List"!
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*Slams his fist on his desk* DAMNIT, Fortune Go! First you get Heart Attacks wife killed, and now you've got the mayor breathing down my neck about this Comic Sans Pandemic, thanks to YOUR rogue actions letting the leader get away! I've got no room on my force for a loose cannon cop who doesen't play by the rules, so turn in your badge and get outta my office!
YOUR OFF THE FORCE, FORTUNE GO! -
Quote:Typically, RP'ers don't Roleplay that they did or did not do damage (As that's decided by the dice, AKA the game mechanics), they Roleplay HOW the attack happened/failed based on those rolls.Originally Posted by Captain_Freak
Oh good, another idiotic Rp'er bringing annoyance to the masses.....if only the Rp'ers would Rp in the game, instead of about game mechanics.
Hey Rp'ers....I Rp'ed that my tank did blaster damage....guess what, didnt happen. Learn to separate Rp from game mechanics.