LaserJesus

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*Smakes X9*
I still say your gf needs to train you better.....

*Smakes X9 again for good measure*

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Smake? SMAKE?

SMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chilling with Doug on No Pants Day was great fun. Laser Jesus' red underwear scarred eyeballs.

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People who don't have all the "inside information" don't realize that Emmert (and, probably, some of the extant staff) had some very poor judgement. I'm sure some people here remember "Fantasy Isle" and "The Gameboy Incident"...

Influential? Sure. Under his leadership, some visionary concepts were made real. He also brought a lot of unoriginal, almost tedious, ideas to the game. But not any of it was done in a vacuum. I think that people in "leadership positions" get way too much credit. Sometimes, they also get unnecessary blame.

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I made a post about the "Gameboy Incident" earlier, but I'm not sure what the Fantasy Isle thing refers to. Mind, I didn't start going to the forums regularly until shortly after Issue 1.

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Some of the Rikti dialogue when you encounter them on the streets indicate they can at least sense your thoughts.

It is possible to have a 'send to target only' based mental network, so what you say is possible.

But regardless, a Rikti automaton that can fool Rikti would still have to be able to project thoughts that another Rikti could comprehend and find normal, not to mention receive telepathic communication from Rikti in order to respond to them correctly.

So the Automaton has to be able to formulate (or choose from a script), send, and receive Rikti telepathy, unless we assume that the Rikti use conventional speech except in circumstances a Rikti automaton could avoid.

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Well, according to the canon, Nemesis did find a way to figure it out. And if someone says that he couldn't have figured out a way to mimic Rikti telepathy because he uses steam, I am going to flip out.

This thread better turn into a flamewar. Justice forums have been too nice recently, and I'm starting to get nervous.

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It's also unnecessary. I was under the impression their rifles operated on the same principle as the player Assault Rifles, they just looked better.

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I never said it was necessary. He's an eccentric supervillain from the late 1800s. His whole MO is anachronism. The whole steam powered thing is just part of his villainous style.

A couple more questions.

Are the Nemesis Automatons that pose as real people powered by steam? Or do they use some other power source? Since they don't belch steam, and they fool so many people, I'm thinking that they don't use steam at all.

Second question, how exactly does Rikti telepathy function?

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I wouldn't call it a hive mind. More of a mind web. Many separate minds in constant contact. Internet 2.0.

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True, hive mind wasn't really the right word for it. My main point is that I don't think I've ever heard of a Rikti reading the mind of someone that isn't another Rikti.

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Actually, you know what? Someone show me proof that Nemesis Automatons are actually even steam powered. I've never read anywhere that they are. As far as I know only the Warhulks, Fake Nemeses, and Jaegers are steam powered, in addition to the rifles and such.

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Steam powered rifles, wha?

Actually this is the true genius of Nemesis. He makes Frankenguns look good.

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Pfft. Steam powered rifles are probably the easiest thing about Nemesis to rationalize. All you would need is to boil water extremely fast. Ever hear about water exploding after being microwaved? More or less the same principle at work.

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Right. They wipe out aberrant thought, so obviously they have some concept of it. They know we're not as advanced as they are. They know we're not telepathic. It doesn't take much to figure out "hey, this guy's an aberrant, and the poor pathetic humans can't do anything about it. Sucks to be them, the ones we met earlier seemed like nice guys."

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You see, this brings up another thing that I considered. Can the Rikti actually read minds? I don't think they can. I think they simply operate on a hive mind, and just transmit thoughts, as it were. The Rikti Mentalists' attacks probably operate by pretty much screaming at someone with their mind. Their minds are alien, and the human mind probably cannot comprehend Rikti thoughts.

Actually, you know what? Someone show me proof that Nemesis Automatons are actually even steam powered. I've never read anywhere that they are. As far as I know only the Warhulks, Fake Nemeses, and Jaegers are steam powered, in addition to the rifles and such.

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Exactly. It doesn't make sense. Comic book logic says telepathy doesn't work on robots. CoH says psi attacks are largely ineffective against robots. The Rikti seem to have a lot of experience using telepathy, wouldn't they notice something odd if they can read some of the humans' minds and then bam, they're attacked by someone who either has no thoughts, or who's thinking "0001010010101?"

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Artificial intelligence is well documented in the CoH universe. Citadel, for one. If a machine is sophisticated enough to perfectly mimic sentience, then I would think that it could think in something other than binary.

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I could buy it if his methods weren't so obviously transparent. Do the Rikti have no concept of villains? Wouldn't an attack from a dimension that was no threat to them up until that point make them go "hmm?"

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Actually, they don't have any concept of villains. Rikti Priests hunt down aberrant thought processes and correct them. Hro'Dtohz's ambition and independence is said in Serpent Drummer's arc to be completely out of character for Rikti. I suspect that he is only allowed to continue with his independent line of thought because of the war.

The idea isn't that the heat is magically disappearing, it's that the outside shell would be cooled by a refrigeration system. Obviously the automaton would have to vent the heat periodically.

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Can I eat someone else's theigh instead?

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As soon as you figure out what a theigh is, sure!

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It's still got 8 hours. I only started it an hour ago.

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Damn. I guess I'll have to eat my own legs then.

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how flexible are you? Bet you can't eat your entire thigh!

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Rather flexible, but I don't need to be if I have a fork and knife.

He did a lot to give the impression that the way he wanted the game to be played was the only way the game should be played. One of the biggest things that sticks out in my mind was the change to bosses that was part of I3... or was it I4? When one of those issues was put on to the test server. It made them about as hard (or maybe harder) than the Elite Bosses that we have now. (Elite Bosses didn't exist back then.) His rationality was that challenging boss fights are fun. That's all well and good, and correct for the most part.

However, he was misconstruing the Boss rank enemies we have in the game with the kind of Boss that you would find in a traditional video game. You run into bosses in City of Heroes practically all the time. Thankfully, he decided to roll back the change.

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This has absolutely no chance of becoming a flame war.

*gets popcorn and soda*

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so far no flame war, but i did LOL when i read this

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I'm actually kind of disappointed at the lack of flames. I'll have to rectify this.

[censored] you, Peep! D:<

You know, I actually have been feeling that way about the final mission myself lately, especially after writing the second one and making a third one. I probably should go through and add a little more pep to the last mission.

The second one is definitely more lighthearted through the whole thing. Well, I guess it depends on how twisted your sense of humor is. I've had some people tell me the ending of the last one was kind of a tearjerker, even though I thought it was twisted comedy. Hmm. I wonder what that says about me.

Thanks for the review and the feedback!

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"It's all a Nemesis plot" is another joke taken way too far. The original Nemesis story arcs end up with him dying, you beat him up, and you NEVER FIGHT HIM AGAIN. There is Nemesis? in one of Crimson's missions, and all those cheesy one-off missions you get from Maxwell Christopher, but the fact that you beat up Nemesis ONCE AND FOR ALL (?) leaves us with the "it was a Doombot....er, Fake Nemesis" excuse.

But they just couldn't let it lie, could they? No, they HAD to bring Nemesis back, they just HAD to make the biggest event in Paragon City's history Another Nemesis Plot. And one with plot holes big enough to drive a truck through, at that. And while doing so they had to make the super-advanced "aliens" dumb as bricks, just so they'd fall for it.

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I don't think that Nemesis being behind the Rikti invasion was out of nowhere as you seem to think. Some reading material:

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Maxwell_Chri...ck_the_evidence

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Anton_Sampso...is.27_next_plan

First link explains that not only was Nemesis working on Rikti technology 10 years prior to the Rikti war, he somehow was capable of replicating Rikti telepathy, which would make one think that he probably was capable of creating a semblance of an electronic brain. Just because Rikti can read thoughts, doesn't mean they can detect organic material with their minds, mind you.

Of course, this comes with a caveat that none of this will necessarily make any sense to you. Just showing that they did make an attempt at rationalization within the game lore.

Link number two shows that Nemesis has had portal technology for quite some time. Anton Sampson even theorizes off hand that he hid in some other dimension during the Rikti Invasion. That sounds to me like a wink and a nod from the writer.

The story history that I believe is still on the website, or maybe the history badge for Portal Corp, I can't remember which, states that the Rikti were first contacted back in the mid-nineties, and initial diplomatic relations with them were fairly peaceful. The Rikti invasion was sudden, unexpected, and uncharacteristic.

I've always guessed that Nemesis started the Rikti invasion. Whether it makes sense is another matter.

That's one of the things about writing for older Nemesis missions. They make far more sense than more recent ones. His plots didn't seem like they came out of left field just to make him seem like an incalculable mastermind. You could put the pieces together and figure out his plans for the most part. Unfortunately, your contact couldn't, and your character has no chance to pull a Batman and out-think the criminal mastermind.

Another comment to leave this off on, some people (namely Venture) have expressed disbelief of the automatons due to steam power being incredibly hot. That can simply be explained by the outer parts of the robot having a cooling system, making them show up as normal body temperature for an infrared camera.

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Are we talking about LaserCthulhu?

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Sorry, just needed to fix that.

*goes back to his home server*

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Well, that's just terrific. Way to go, man. You just doomed us all to unimaginable horrors.

I hope you are satisfied.

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You bet your Cthulhu fhtagn I'm satisfied.

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You take your Dev's Choice arc and go back to the hellhole server from whence ye came, vile beast!

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You will be remembered fondly as Cthulhu devours your continent. If you like, I can forward some prayer missives to you via PM. ...won't help, but they certainly do have rhythm.

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Dude, Cthulhu sucks. In the original story they beat him by hitting him with a boat.

Doug the Troll was freaking excellent. I agree with Chyll's sentiment.

I would post the Freedom Militia, but due to the changes on test I'm going to be adding more minions and another LT, and haven't gotten around to it yet. When I do, I'll share it.

As for what the Freedom Militia are, they're essentially heroic outcasts. Mutants who are mostly teenagers and young adults who are banding together as a revolutionary group against Arachnos and the other criminal organizations of the Rogue Isles. I made them because I feel that the villain game is far too lacking in actual heroic enemies, and the heroic enemies that do exist usually don't even have powers. I also find it very hard to believe that nobody in the Rogue Isles has started an underground resistance movement to try and overthrow Arachnos yet.

I didn't suggest that you were trolling or anything, don't get me wrong. But it's only so long before the clash of egos that is the Justice forums gets the better of the thread.

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Hey, there's no reason to call Flea fat.

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Except for his obesity problem.





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This has absolutely no chance of becoming a flame war.

*gets popcorn and soda*