Lady Athyna

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If somebody can give me some of the Korean Forums Smilies, I can modify them into faces of your characters (I know how they look, since one of the guys here uses a modified one as his avatar). The problem is that the Korean site is impossible for me to comprehend and browse successfully.

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<. .> It is time for some major pixel abuse mwahahahaha >.>

(I've not manipulated sprites much <,< but I have ideas!)

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Glad you liked it Misty. I think it was Mantid who found all those little doohickeys from the Korean site and loaded it up in an album like that. I knew somebody would want it. But remember, Mantid did that. I just bookmarked it.

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Actually I would like to take a moment to point out my own handywork. The Mynx "doohickeys" are all Mantid-made!

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Hey!

I remembered you this time.

Don't I get a pat on the back or a cookie for that?

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Or something leather?

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Avonlea, come on down to Tampa next Halloween. Celebrate it the right way. With guavas. Join in the Mama Guava Stumble. See Y'bor transformed from party central-year round Mardi Gras to Guavaween when we get really wild.

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I have no idea what you just said, but your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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'Tis a linky!

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Two things came to mind when I saw THIS.

1) First, I was slightly afraid.
2) Then a small voice in my head said, "Bring out the gimp..."

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Two things that came to mind when I saw that...

#1 - Ewww

#2 - That's a dude.....DOUBLE EWWW!

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Wait....I just assumed crossdressing on Halloween was a tradition? You know, like Easter egg hunts, lighting fireworks on Independence Day, or sacrificing a platypus to the pagan gods on your birthday. Isn't that how you guys do it?

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Avonlea, come on down to Tampa next Halloween. Celebrate it the right way. With guavas. Join in the Mama Guava Stumble. See Y'bor transformed from party central-year round Mardi Gras to Guavaween when we get really wild.

SANDWICHES!!!

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Just seems biased to me is all. Agreeably her costume looked fairly challenging to replicate. but then again, so did so many others. painting your entire body takes an arduous amount of time(i should know considering how much time i dedicate to my halloween costume every year for the neighborhoods entertainment). it just seems to me that, given the quality of so many, the time invested, and the dedication that the winners posted shouldnt have been the winners. MPO alone(i dont believe in humble opinion).

agree/disagree, if the topics already been covered, i believe this thread is at an end. thanx for the comments.

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Oh, I don't know that the whole of the topic was covered, just the part where someone drooling over one of the entrants wanted to know why she didn't win.

But, in a way, I do agree with you. Zeus and Avonlea usually enter the costume contests, and they put a lot work into their costumes. This year, Zeus created a plaster form of a body then filled it with some expanding something or other and painted the whole thing to look like a more muscular than he naturally is, super hero guy. He posted pics somewhere.

Avonlea, he's entered as a female character most times, he won last year and the year before.

To tell the truth, I'd be interested in how much work went into each entry... but I find that interesting anyway. Also, I like seeing how others do that sort of thing. My husband and I volunteer at a haunted house every year so I've taken a few cinema make-up and monster effects classes. I like seeing other methods too.

One year, they also had a most humorous category. I thought the categories were what you meant. There was a thread up in General discussing why some won and others didn't. Seems to be a lot of opinions. Anyway, I also found this bit, [ QUOTE ]
All contestants were judged on costume impression, creativity, originality, and difficulty (intricacy of design).

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I'm guessing the judges sat down, pointed out which ones they liked best for each category and then argued for a couple days.

From the contest page...

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This year’s categories are:

Best Overall - (Grand Prize Winner - this will not be a winner from any of the other categories).

Best Villain

Best Hero

Best Costume/Public Location Combo

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I'd like to think that a really difficult costume even with flaws scored higher than an easy costume that was exact. Heck, I could create a character wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

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Yay! All together now!

On the twelfth(sp?) day of Christmas the gaming gods gave to me:

Twelve new custom pieces,
Eleven Mushrooms mezzing!
Ten Warwolves howling,
Nine Tsoo Sorcerers,
Eight Madness Mages,
Seven Fiends a-fighting,
Six Morts a-rezzing,
Fiiiiive Super Aaaa-rachnoids!
Four Master Illusionists,
Three Spectral Lords,
Two Air Thorn Casters,
And a Sapper in a Devouring Earth Treeeeee!

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Okay, now who's gonna get the devs to sing it?

Oh, almost forgot. Thank you for getting them up Cricket.

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Wow!

Gratz to everyone!

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Now we just need the COH staff to record a live version of this song, to be used in the special Winter Event Zone....

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/signed
/agreed

Do it!

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Yeah <,< mantid posted them in the Legion of Catgirls forums once a LONG time ago, but at the time, I had no interest in manipulating em >.>; and uhm... well I haven't seen em since >.<

<^_^> much appreciated!

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Glad to help. Also, glad I remembered who snagged those this time.

Last time I posted that link... I forgot who did it...

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If somebody can give me some of the Korean Forums Smilies, I can modify them into faces of your characters (I know how they look, since one of the guys here uses a modified one as his avatar). The problem is that the Korean site is impossible for me to comprehend and browse successfully.

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Here.

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<. .> It is time for some major pixel abuse mwahahahaha >.>

(I've not manipulated sprites much <,< but I have ideas!)

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Glad you liked it Misty. I think it was Mantid who found all those little doohickeys from the Korean site and loaded it up in an album like that. I knew somebody would want it. But remember, Mantid did that. I just bookmarked it.

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If somebody can give me some of the Korean Forums Smilies, I can modify them into faces of your characters (I know how they look, since one of the guys here uses a modified one as his avatar). The problem is that the Korean site is impossible for me to comprehend and browse successfully.

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So, will these be the old style 1 Free costume change per Costume Slot tokens? (eg, if you had 3 costume slots unlocked, that character would get three free changes) Or like the new vet reward Costume Changes which are good for one change total?

Also, theres probably going to be a comment about the value of the veteran reward costume tokens in relation to these free ones any minute now.

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To follow up on this, the script is the "old style" you mention above that can give up to an additional 4 costume change tokens and should (barring any sun spots, tidal waves or other fun things) become available with the server maintenance on 11/30/06.

We do realize that there are players who might have characters with up to 5 costume slots. We felt it was more important to deliver the free tokens in a timely manner so those who want to alter costumes as a result of Issue 8 can do so quickly.

Again, our apologies for any angst over changed costumes and our thanks in advance for your understanding.

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In other words, the earlier post was 'We'll get back to you' in Lighthouse speak?

We're figuring you out... just a little while longer...

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You never say 'I don't know', you say 'I'll look into that'.

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That is exactly what I am saying Lady_Athena.

I guess to me,
If the post would have said something like....
"I am not sure, just chiming in to let you know I will see if I can find out" ... would have been great.

Having said that, I still think Lighthouse does a superb job.
Having said that.. I am clamping up on this subject.

Lady_Athena stated it much more eloquently than I.
Thanks for the help Lady.

-Cos

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Thanks. /blush

Anyway, our little community has a history of joking around and getting a bit goofy with the devs. I still have a copy somewhere from Lord Recluse trying to kill me. It was funny. I'm thinking Lighthouse hasn't found his niche yet between giving us info and joking around with us. In that respect, he is a newbie. *giggle*

Hrm... wonder if I should hide for calling him a newbie...

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Guys,
I understand that Lighthouse made a light hearted comment because he didnt know.

However, given that he is the manager over there, couldn't he, or shouldn't he have gotten the answer via email or however from Cryptic?

Timely.. well we have waited sometimes as few as minutes for answers, other times as long as weeks or months for answers. Even other times, no answers at all.

This just seemed like a no brainer to have that answer at his availability before he posted that one.

Now, if Lighthouse takes offense , then my bad and I would offer him an I'm sorry.

I do however think that when he is asked in his position to post an announcement that he should be able to find the answers to questions before he posts a second 'comment'.
I like his general posting on topics and such, but this one seemed to strike odd in me.

Chalk it up to being cranky or what have you.

If ole Lighthouse finds it snarky (not really my intention, but more of I would hope for better than I don't know in a direct reply to questions), then I hope he understands it comes from wanting the best from and for the game.

-Cos

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Seems to me that he didn't know off the top of his head and wanted to find out before spreading incorrect info, also he wanted us to know that he knew about the question. It sounded just like the corporate way of saying 'I don't know'. You never say 'I don't know', you say 'I'll look into that'.

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Also, theres probably going to be a comment about the value of the veteran reward costume tokens in relation to these free ones any minute now.


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Eh, don't care. You can't choose not to use a freebie token, but you can choose when to claim the vet reward.

You and I Misty, agree. The extremists... all of 'em, can <edited to prevent massive, super banning... the AoE would take us all>!

Ooops.

I was.

Sorry for misunderstanding.

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So, is I8 out yet, then?

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Yes, it is. It's been on the internal server for a while now.

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How about, "It seems like the Devs aren't very good at math due to X and Y mistakes they've made?"

I'm not saying it's polite, but pointing out where the Devs are lacking can certainly be true. After all, they're only people, and therefore imperfect.

Heck, if I were on a Dev team and found we kept making errors in judgement or coming up with different answers than everyone else, I'd take serious stock of the situation and maybe start thinking about bringing someone in to bolster those areas where we keep coming up short.


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You don't have to be overly polite to give constructive criticism. And criticism doesn't require insults.

I've been accused of the dev-fan-love thing. But my biggest complaint about that, just treat like human beings, not dogs. There's been a lot of really valid points that got lost in a thread because everything devolves. Remember the 'Lying liers and the lies they tell' crap? That was nuts. Just nuts. But I believe that if that whole thing had been phrased differently, there wouldn't have been the bit Statesman cutting the other devs brake lines to diversify the ride home or replacing his muffler with an Ethiopian baby.

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I don't disagree, but all this does is give certain posters (and you likely know which ones) another way to try and publicly discount the possibly rational, if poorly-self-moderated, complaints of others. So I agree to a point, but then caution folks that there's often a reason people get heated about things, and it's because they care, which is really testament to the game.

Also, the Devs don't need our protection. They are adults. They're perfectly capable of ignoring foolish rants themselves without having us conflagrate things and forcing the mods to lock threads which might otherwise have yielded insight and relevance.

I say it all time in these threads: complaints are GOOD. Complaints are whip that keeps the ox pulling the plow. Complaints are what tell a business how to improve. Complaints are opportunities for a business to improve consumer relations.

The greatest threat to the game isn't people complaining; far from it, in fact. The greatest threat is from people whose devotion to the game is so complete that they can barely see any flaws to improve upon, and can't countenance words daring to say otherwise.

...uh, sorry about the soapbox.

Also: The brakeline and baby thing were satirical. Satire, parody and humour are often the best ways to find out what a group is thinking, and shouldn't be discounted simply for being colourful.

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Ok, but how helpful is "ZOMG ED SUX U NERF ME YOU <BLEEPITY BLEEPING> DEVS!!!"?

That's where criticism fails to even exist and insults take over completely. But, even a thread that starts out like that, a couple of posts asking why that might get a little more intelligent discussion going are beneficial. On that point, I agree with you. I just haven't seen very many that started heated not get deleted because they go way out there.

And I know the devs are adults. It's a shame though that some of playerbase can't at least sound adult-like. Think about it, screaming 'u sux devs i h8 u' versus actually explaining what's upsetting isn't going to make anyone listen. It's true in life. The louder you talk, the less people listen. You start from an aggressive and angry place and the natural response is to get defensive.

Try it. In life or in game, if you want to get a point across to someone, think about how you'd take what you want to say from someone else. Think about how you can phrase it to get the other person to see your point of view. Then talk to them in a manner that sounds like they want to help you. Congratulations, you now have career possibilities in politics, and managerial position, Corporate America or as a lawyer. No, I'm not joking. If you know how to phrase it, you can tell another person to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. If you can do that, you can certainly make a point on a forum that has a lower probability of degrading to 'u suk' 'no u suk'.

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How about, "It seems like the Devs aren't very good at math due to X and Y mistakes they've made?"

I'm not saying it's polite, but pointing out where the Devs are lacking can certainly be true. After all, they're only people, and therefore imperfect.

Heck, if I were on a Dev team and found we kept making errors in judgement or coming up with different answers than everyone else, I'd take serious stock of the situation and maybe start thinking about bringing someone in to bolster those areas where we keep coming up short.


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You don't have to be overly polite to give constructive criticism. And criticism doesn't require insults.

I've been accused of the dev-fan-love thing. But my biggest complaint about that, just treat like human beings, not dogs. There's been a lot of really valid points that got lost in a thread because everything devolves. Remember the 'Lying liers and the lies they tell' crap? That was nuts. Just nuts. But I believe that if that whole thing had been phrased differently, there wouldn't have been the bit Statesman cutting the other devs brake lines to diversify the ride home or replacing his muffler with an Ethiopian baby.

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What I meant was would you get the contact for Faultline from one of your former contacts if you went to lvl 15 before I8 came out, or would you simply "miss out"?

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You just go to the contact and talk to them yourself. I don't think an old contact will give it to you, but you will get the contact if you go talk to him on your own.

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Correct <@_@>

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Of course it is! I am me, after all.

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O.o

That just adds to the 'ZOMGBBQLOLOLOLOLOLOL' factor.

Don't worry Clint, I was just rambling, and I got it out of my system yesterday.